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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:45 pm    Post subject: Does anyone know what this is? Reply with quote

The Guinness loco I'm restoring has many fixtures held on by these:



I might have to reorder some as some are rusted together so I can't split them or clamp them to get a fitting off. So I want to know what the name of these things are please
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

They're called "Split Pins" MTA.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They're called "Split Pins" MTA.


Thanks SM I thought it was something along those lines
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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They're called "Split Pins" MTA.


Thanks SM I thought it was something along those lines


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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

yep, split pins.

How is the restoration going?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 2:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yep, split pins.

How is the restoration going?


Not much I'm afraid, I was waiting to see if there was a rotary wire brush on site to go in a power drill or angle grinder to clean up the smokebox door. I cleaned up the smaller parts on the wire brush fitted to the polishing machine in the works, although the smokebox door is too heavy to hold up to that thing! So I'll probably be doing a bit more this weekend in the afternoon when the engines are put away. Obviously no needle gunning otherwise I might receive a stern repromand!
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cotter pin is what we call em down here
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lewis wrote:
cotter pin is what we call em down here


Don't you mean up there?
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 3:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

aye up here to you anyways
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTA...in the US they are commonly called "cotter pins" as well, widely used to hold things like small wheels on axles of baby carriages and that sort of thing. Once inserted in the hole in axle, they are bent in opposite directions so they won't come back out except by purposely bending them back to straight. You can usually use them a couple of times, but after that metal fatigue causes them to break.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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MTA...in the US they are commonly called "cotter pins" as well, widely used to hold things like small wheels on axles of baby carriages and that sort of thing. Once inserted in the hole in axle, they are bent in opposite directions so they won't come back out except by purposely bending them back to straight. You can usually use them a couple of times, but after that metal fatigue causes them to break.


I have heard of the name 'cotter pin' before. I know what you mean about the fatigue. The one pictured at the beginning of this topic was covered in rust and old paint. A minute or so on the wire wheel and it was all gone I think the right hand side water tank filler flap has a severely corroded one, so I shall have to be careful with that one when I bend it back straight
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A good temporary replacement for a proper cotter pin is to use a small nail of the same size...nail head holds one end and a slight bend on the other keeps it from slipping out. Looks a bit tacky, but it will do the job til you get replacements.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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A good temporary replacement for a proper cotter pin is to use a small nail of the same size...nail head holds one end and a slight bend on the other keeps it from slipping out. Looks a bit tacky, but it will do the job til you get replacements.


More commonly known as a bodge job!



It does the job though.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:38 pm    Post subject: big Reply with quote

must be a big model those split pins are massive,look like they are off a wagon axle lol
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 4:48 pm    Post subject: Re: big Reply with quote

tinkttt wrote:
must be a big model those split pins are massive,look like they are off a wagon axle lol


I wouldn't exactly call the item in question a model I would post up a pic but Photobucket won't load

The split pin is 4 inches long, so quite big! I've seen bigger ones though
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