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kusuchi
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 Posted: Fri May 16, 2008 3:04 am Post subject: Flieschmann 135/2 - 1956, Restored Photos. |
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Arrived today.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI....sPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=009
This engine was missing the chimney, burner and ladder.
It was packed in a combination of newspaper, plywood and Styrofoam. Rog would have had a heart attack. 
I was reminded of yellow jr's Clyde Puffer as Andrew and I unpacked it.
My gut instinct when I bid on it, however, was based on the seller's father's obvious love for steam. Andrew and I got out the Simichrome, color restorer and Car Wax and immediately went to work.
Beneath the years of rust ,dirt and grime accumulated in her attic was a truly beautiful engine.
We have cleaned most of the engine tonight and are starting on the boiler. Everything is coming up perfectly, no rust, paint chips or any imperfections so far.
I don't think we'll get rid of the base blemish by the fire box door and obviously there is missing paint on the fire box. Given the astonishing condition of the rest of the engine I am very tempted to repaint the firebox.
Does anyone have an original paint spec for this?
Whilst I am sure the seller does not have the original chimney, (the opening has a cap welded on), I will email her about the burner and the ladder which, if I'm lucky, may still be lying around the attic. 
Pictures when restoration is complete,
Will fire immediately, (probably using Marklin burner).
Subtle Ploy. 
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Original firebox colour?
Glossy black, and that's it.... 
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johnreid
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The Firebox would be Glossy Black, however finding Glossy Black VHT will be a challenge. My advice is that if it isnt too rusty, all that have been fired will have a slight amount of surface rust, it might be wise to leave that part be.
The chimney would be a friction fit to the round "cap" that I believe you are referring to.
Mine are not a 135/2, but built similarly, if you would Like I can provide some photos of the chimney base without the Chimney in place.
I believe that removing the boiler and everything that you would need to to in order to repaint the Firebox, might be a bigger job than it looks.
Restoration isnt always for the feint hearted, but true wisdom is shown by those who know when to leave it be. ( just my opinion, and my opinion and 50˘ will not even buy a cup of coffee anymore )
Only use the Marklin burner IF you decide to fire the Marklin.
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| coool loooooks gooood....lol too many o's!! What do you fire it on? |
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johnreid
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Also remember, that thing is HUGE
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cam-steaman
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| wats ur collection made up of John? |
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johnreid
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click on the www at the bottom of my posts and you can see my collection,
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kusuchi
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| johnreid wrote: | The Firebox would be Glossy Black, however finding Glossy Black VHT will be a challenge. My advice is that if it isnt too rusty, all that have been fired will have a slight amount of surface rust, it might be wise to leave that part be.
The chimney would be a friction fit to the round "cap" that I believe you are referring to.
Mine are not a 135/2, but built similarly, if you would Like I can provide some photos of the chimney base without the Chimney in place.
I believe that removing the boiler and everything that you would need to to in order to repaint the Firebox, might be a bigger job than it looks.
Restoration isnt always for the feint hearted, but true wisdom is shown by those who know when to leave it be. ( just my opinion, and my opinion and 50˘ will not even buy a cup of coffee anymore )
Only use the Marklin burner IF you decide to fire the Marklin. |
Ah ha. But once I use the burner, the Marklin is fired.
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kusuchi
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| Dampfzauberer wrote: | Original firebox colour?
Glossy black, and that's it.... |
Hi Mirko,
As a Contractor I can pick up 50 cans of paint all labeled 'White' and none are the same. Every manufacturer's White is a different color.
Is this not true for black?
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Even Fleischmann had a couple minor variances in the Black, however getting a Gloss Black that will hold up to the heat is going to be the biggest problem plus like I said before, the Fleischmann will not disassemble as easily as other makes.
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| kusuchi wrote: | | johnreid wrote: | The Firebox would be Glossy Black, however finding Glossy Black VHT will be a challenge. My advice is that if it isnt too rusty, all that have been fired will have a slight amount of surface rust, it might be wise to leave that part be.
The chimney would be a friction fit to the round "cap" that I believe you are referring to.
Mine are not a 135/2, but built similarly, if you would Like I can provide some photos of the chimney base without the Chimney in place.
I believe that removing the boiler and everything that you would need to to in order to repaint the Firebox, might be a bigger job than it looks.
Restoration isnt always for the feint hearted, but true wisdom is shown by those who know when to leave it be. ( just my opinion, and my opinion and 50˘ will not even buy a cup of coffee anymore )
Only use the Marklin burner IF you decide to fire the Marklin. |
Ah ha. But once I use the burner, the Marklin is fired. |
Sneaky, but not sure if that would hold up in court.
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kusuchi
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| johnreid wrote: | The Firebox would be Glossy Black, however finding Glossy Black VHT will be a challenge. My advice is that if it isnt too rusty, all that have been fired will have a slight amount of surface rust, it might be wise to leave that part be.
The chimney would be a friction fit to the round "cap" that I believe you are referring to.
Mine are not a 135/2, but built similarly, if you would Like I can provide some photos of the chimney base without the Chimney in place.
I believe that removing the boiler and everything that you would need to to in order to repaint the Firebox, might be a bigger job than it looks.
Restoration isnt always for the feint hearted, but true wisdom is shown by those who know when to leave it be. ( just my opinion, and my opinion and 50˘ will not even buy a cup of coffee anymore )
Only use the Marklin burner IF you decide to fire the Marklin. |
This is what the engine looks like after one evening of intensive cleaning.
I see the problem with disassembly, but as the steam pipe is already separated from the boiler, that will make it a lot easier.
Bought a can of black gloss spray today. It's good for 1000F. Is that enough? Having tested it on a small piece of metal it is considerably glossier than the Fleischmann original. I would have to respray everything.
Regardless of painting issues, it really needs to be disassembled to do a really good cleaning job.
I'm sure if I take it apart I can bring the whole engine to the standard shown in the photos.
Thoughts?
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