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Probably a really stupid question about Mamod Locos
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Wallace


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 5:54 am    Post subject: Probably a really stupid question about Mamod Locos Reply with quote

We may put our place up for sale soon. Plan to move into a bigger place, or moreso want a bigger yard.

I really appreciate the Locos, but simply don't have the room for a permanent setup here. I always thought I'd get a loco if I had the room for a permanent setup.


Anway, with all the additions, IP lubricators, upgraded s/v's, wheels etc etc you all do, is it possible to just buy a Mamod Loco, stick a loco meths burner in it, and run it?

Or do most require an upgrade to run well?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 6:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

They will run fine with out modification but a little lacking in pulling power I have found unless you find a realy good one.
I have only modded one up and thats the MSS green Loco we call Marvin.
a meths burner is realy esential IMHO as its hard to get esbit or mamod tablets here at a cheap price and they stink also
get a loco mate but be careful they breed
we can attest to that
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:41 am    Post subject: Re: Probably a really stupid question about Mamod Locos Reply with quote

Wallace wrote:
had the room for a permanent setup.


Anway, with all the additions, IP lubricators, upgraded s/v's, wheels etc etc you all do, is it possible to just buy a Mamod Loco, stick a loco meths burner in it, and run it?

Or do most require an upgrade to run well?


Wallace, a bl**dy good question and one that i have had in my mind for sometime
The upgrade question had been putting me off getting a loco and it will be interesting to hear what others have to say.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crucial upgrades in my opinion:

Meths burner (easy to fit, might have to file the ends off some bolts)
Safety valve - just screws in the hole.

A water top up valve is also good as then you can just keep topping up with meths and water and keep the loco running and running.

So no work at all needed there, just buy the bits.

The standard regulator isn't very precise, but you can slow the loco down with some wagons.

Personally I think the other upgrades are "nice to haves", and I will slowly be adding these onto my locos (upgraded pistons, regulators, maybe a lubricator, possibly some steel wheels).

I'd be interested to try a gas burner, but MM doesn't rate them and it is £50 to find out what they are like.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

there is a gas burner on the loco we won from switzerland so will let you know how it goes or is worth it
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 8:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If cash was tight a meths burner and uprated SV will do it Wallace.
You may want to strip it down and lap some parts etc but that just takes time not money.

All the rest are nice but not essential, its a bit like doing up a car, fitting a 350 Holly will give you more go but if you only want to get from A to B do you really need it?
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

G-J Chris and Tony, thanks for all the comments


Stitch, I'm glad I'm not the only one

I certainly would go for a meths burner, and a s/v. But wasnt too sure on the other parts.
I think I'd go with the option of adding weight to slow it down, unless I added R/C (which would be a long way down the track).

Thanks again, and when I get some money together, I'll keep watch on some

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wallace a control valve gives you better control of the amount of steam to the cylinders the standard forward reverse valve is hard to control and just a minute movement can make the engine race or not go at all so thats why I fitted one.

As for the inline lube makes it easier to keep the cylinders lubricated and keep up the pressure and gives greater pulling power
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 10:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, thanks for that G-J
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 07, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have to choose over any upgrade go for the safety valve, Solid fuel will heat it fine, just doesn't last long enough
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 13, 2007 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

As some of you may know I was a Loco 'newbie' earlier this year but with some support from the forum got my SL1K from being a poor performer to being a star!!

The biggest improvement came from running the engine in. Put it up on blocks, oil it and run it!! I did add the SV and meths burner but running in was the key.

I have another loco (they do breed) that was in well used condition, so well run in, and that was run initially on solid fuel and the standard safety valve and that was a very steady performer and better than my SL1K initially. However, the uprated SV has changed it completely into a steady powerful runner.

Not sure whether I will go for further upgrades of just buy more track, rolling stock or another loco of course! !
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 6:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that advice
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It probably is possible to just buy a loco stick a meths burner in and run it but not advisable as it would only have a small increase in power and the risk of running it out of water doesnt bear thinking about.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The meths burner will run out before the boiler does assuming it is an IP/PPS burner.

Water top up valve is only a few quid anyway.
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 15, 2007 9:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I guess you shouldn't refill the burner without re-filling the water anyway
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