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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:32 am    Post subject: This is the story of another boat Reply with quote

Good news ....... the shipyards are open again, ready for the next boating challenge.  

Eagle-eyed members of the forum will probably recognise the boat.  It originally was moored up near Gainsborough. It is now here at the shipyards ... many thanks James.

The following photos show the boat and boiler-engine (an MM1).  There is a bit to do ... a new paint job, new engine layout ... new rudder ... lots of new stuff.  The boat is smaller and narrower then the Hobbies Arrow so there isn't much room inside the hull.  Going to be an interesting restoration-build.



Close up of the MM1 boiler.  As you can see, there isn't much room between the firebox and the hull.  I intend to remove the chimney (I'm assuming it is soft soldered in place).  I haven't decided whether to heat the boiler using a gas or a small custom-made meths burner.  



Close up of the rear compartment.  There is probably enough room in there for a micro server and receiver.  There is a rudder ratchet bar across the rear deck.  I might try to preserve that.



This photo shows the MM1 boiler assembly.  It stands a bit high in the hull so the main task here will be to lower the boiler (to lower the center of gravity).  I could trim the existing firebox or make a new one.  That is a chair leg to the left of the chimney in case you are wondering ...



General view looking into the main compartment.  Part of the decking is missing from the bulkhead to the right of the photo.  



The very sleek lines of the boat.



First job ... give the hull a good clean, make it water tight and repaint in Bowman colours.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Plenty of work to do there Pete.

I'll follow this with great interest.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 9:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is going to be a very interesting thread to follow, and you will find the chimney is pop-riveted to the boiler.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les wrote:
This is going to be a very interesting thread to follow, and you will find the chimney is pop-riveted to the boiler.


Thanks Les.  Does this mean that I can only hacksaw the chimney off?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocDoc wrote:
Les wrote:
This is going to be a very interesting thread to follow, and you will find the chimney is pop-riveted to the boiler.


Thanks Les.  Does this mean that I can only hacksaw the chimney off?

Pete


No, you should be able to drill the rivet out.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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No, you should be able to drill the rivet out.


That's interesting ... I can't see a pop rivet on mine (I can't see for looking).  Where abouts are the rivets?

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 4:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RocDoc wrote:
Les wrote:


No, you should be able to drill the rivet out.


That's interesting ... I can't see a pop rivet on mine (I can't see for looking).  Where abouts are the rivets?

Pete

Look down the chimney, down the bottom, in the middle.
Just one rivet.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hurray Pete-- I love these kind of projects ! She looks like an old clockwork boat!! This should be grand as you did such a splendid job on the Julliette( ?).

The RocDocBoatDock is now open !!!!
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 6:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hurray Pete-- I love these kind of projects ! She looks like an old clockwork boat!! This should be grand as you did such a splendid job on the Julliette( ?).

The RocDocBoatDock is now open !!!!


I like that Mo ... RocDocBoatDock ...  got a nice ring to it.

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 7:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's a great project Pete. I'm sure you'll make a good job of it! You should be able to drill out the chimney rivet and solder a patch over the hole. If you're not bothered about keeping the chimney for future use you could hacksaw most of it off first so that you can better see what you're doing.
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2009 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh good!

The boat's been in one of the stables outside for a long time, on a bench behind the Grey Fergie.

I worked out (what I thought was) the best way to mount the engine in the boat, but never got any further, too many projects (Marshall restoration, Land Rover, Fordson Standard, Foster threshing drum etc etc etc).

I can't wait to see the progress with this, I know it's in very capable hands!!
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The gang have been busy down the shipyards ... out came the acid (Nitromors) and some steel wool and off came the paint.  Took them quite a while to take it all off but we are now down to the bare wood ... hurrah.

The base of the hull is pine and the hull sides appear to be a harder wood, but I'm not exactly sure what.  It has the appearance of mahogany or perhaps teak.  The top deck is the same wood as the hull sides.



As part of the stripping process, I stripped off the top deck as well.  It came off ... but split into three pieces (I muttered a few blue words ... but it is now glued all back together).  Unfortunately, the break between the deck and the hull sides wasn't that clean towards the stern of the boat.  I'll have to do some filling when I glue it back on again.



This is a close up view of the skeg and the prop shaft.  It cleaned up a real treat.  It is a quite distinctive way of attaching the prop shaft to the skeg.  Has anyone seen anything similar?



There is still quite a bit of 'making-do' to do before I start to paint the hull.  Lots of nail holes to fill.  The join between the base and sides of the hull need particular attention (see the above photo).  I plan to fill the holes using a mixtre of glue and sawdust.

Looking good so far ...

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's looking good . If you a have MM1 boiler,  how will you make another steam chest assembly for the MM1 cylinder because the MM1 is a boiler mounted engine?
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 7:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

SlideValve wrote:
That's looking good . If you a have MM1 boiler,  how will you make another steam chest assembly for the MM1 cylinder because the MM1 is a boiler mounted engine?


Good question ...

I think I'm going to try and make a stand for the MM1 cylinder, bit like the arrangement on the Mamod ME1 marine engine.  I'll probably use either copper pipe and/or silicon tubing to connect the steam pipe to the boiler.

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 07, 2009 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good, Pete!

I'll send you some pictures of how I had planned to arrange it, when I get a minute.

I thought it through for ages and how I decided was, I think, the best way to do it.
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