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IndianaRog
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 Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:41 pm Post subject: Wilesco D455 fired with Bowman meths burner vs. Esbit |
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I've wanted to give this a try, so finally did. This vertical engine normally runs quite well on Esbit via slide in tray...very typically Wilesco. Turns some good rpms, but also will sit steady on bench top with Esbit fire.
Instead, I tried it today with a Bowman M135 Meths burner...
3 1/2 " long burner tube. Needed to prop the end of the tank up to keep it level, but otherwise the tube just slid right in the normal Esbit tray supports which actually kept it pretty straight and prevented wandering.
I found the RPM's were more than I ever got on Esbit, so much more I needed to screw it down to a piece of plywood or it danced right off the table. At least 7-8 minutes burn time on the Bowman burner and as video shows, it put out some serious heat and serious revs. Very pleased with it, will glitze it up a bit with a better wood base and incorporate a little burner shelf...but this proves the concept. No wonder you guys are always raving about meths vs. Esbit...dang stuff IS better...just need a workable burner.
Check it out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eplBtpV3NyE
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oldstuff
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Great vid, Rog. Good to hear your voice...you could be an anchor man on the news!
Tell you what, my first thought was if you put a propeller on it WOULD fly.
That was before you opened the throttle!!
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James
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Same here Chuck!
I rated it 5 stars and left a comment on youtube.
Awsome vid 
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IndianaRog
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| oldstuff wrote: | Great vid, Rog. Good to hear your voice...you could an anchor man on the news!
Tell you what, my first thought was if you put a propeller on it WOULD fly.
That was before you opened the throttle!! |
Honestly it almost scared me into thinking it was gonna blow, but just good solid heat really made it fly. Why didn't I try this before?
Now I need to make something up for a permanent Meths burner to use in several Esbit fired engines...something with a square tank would fit best and look better than the Bowman one...but it proved the idea will work for sure.
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Rog, is it the normal Wilesco burner slide?
If it is I can get you a meths burner to fit.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:18 pm Post subject: |
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| you can get it off forest classics i think? |
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Steam4fun I got mine off
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: |
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Meths is a better/hotter fuel. The D455 has a smaller heated surface too so thats pretty damn good performance - I may try that with mine!  |
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IndianaRog
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| James wrote: | Rog, is it the normal Wilesco burner slide?
If it is I can get you a meths burner to fit. |
YES...I just slid out the usual burner tray that comes with it and stuck the 3.5" long Bowman tube between the rails...no mods to the Wilesco at all. Only thing I had to do was make a little wood block for the tank to sit on with a couple of nails in the block to prevent burne from vibrating out since nothing is holding it in place.
Are there meths burners out there that are actually meant to slide inside the Wilesco rails without flatening the rails??
Rog
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James
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Yep.
Hold on, I'll grab a pic of my repro one.
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| Posted: Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:51 pm Post subject: |
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| bl**dy hell that dont half move |
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IndianaRog
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| James wrote: | Yep.
Hold on, I'll grab a pic of my repro one. |
Thanks James...I have PM'ed you so we don't clutter up this thread any more.
Rog
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Certainly shifts Rog! 
your voice is awsome!!! You could easily get a job on a radio!
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IndianaRog
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | Certainly shifts Rog!
your voice is awsome!!! You could easily get a job on a radio! |
Thanks MM...not sure about a radio career, but I was a salesman for a number of years in an earlier life...had to talk to earn my keep !!!
cheers...signing off for awhile, projects are piling up...catch y'all later,
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Huh. I wish I could talk like you on a vid!!
I talk like a spanner 
I'm off too mate.
Cya
Off to Donny. Should be on in a bit.
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