Archive for The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum The Original Unofficial Toy Steam Forum Established 2006 The biggest, most popular global steam forum around! Accept NO imitations! We have a growing community of regular posting members who chat about all aspects of toy and model steam.          The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Steam Launches and Boats Nick Boat for my ME1 Can anyone help me with this? I had an ME1 arrive, and I'd like to build a boat or find a boat suitable for it. I know it won't be a powerful runner and the run times will be short. The ME3 would probably be better, but I like this engine, and it would look much better in a boat. I ran it today, and found after running it on 2 burner fills, the boiler was almost empty. Here's some pics of the run, videos will follow. johnreid I do not know what it fits in, but Roc Docs Arrow kit sure looks tempting to me. However my bathtub isnt big enough so I think I will avoid boats for now. Nick This was the 1st run in probably a few years, as you can see, it didn't run the best: I re-filled the burner and got a much better run out of the engine: Nick johnreid wrote: I do not know what it fits in, but Roc Docs Arrow kit sure looks tempting to me. However my bathtub isnt big enough so I think I will avoid boats for now. I have been following his thread with interest, does anyone else know if it will fit? Les Nice engine, not sure about what boat but in the first video it looked as if you overfilled the boiler.   Marine Modelling do a Plans Handbook, it may be worth looking them up. https://shop.traplet.com/browse.aspx?c=4525 Roly Williams Re: Boat for my ME1 Nick wrote: ... I ran it today, and found after running it on 2 burner fills, the boiler was almost empty. ... They were designed to have the boiler filled every time the burner is filled. If you don't, you run the risk of running dry and consequent damage (and inconvenience if it happens in the middle of a pond) I'm sure you know that already, Nick, but I'm repeating it for the benefit of newcomers who don't have the instructions (or my booklet ) Nick Re: Boat for my ME1 Roly Williams wrote: Nick wrote: ... I ran it today, and found after running it on 2 burner fills, the boiler was almost empty. ... They were designed to have the boiler filled every time the burner is filled. If you don't, you run the risk of running dry and consequent damage (and inconvenience if it happens in the middle of a pond) I'm sure you know that already, Nick, but I'm repeating it for the benefit of newcomers who don't have the instructions (or my booklet ) What I meant was I filled the burner once to get the water to the boiling point, then pulled it out, re-filled it and ran it until the burner went out. (The burner had not run out when I re-filled it) Mamodman123 Re: Boat for my ME1 Nick wrote: Roly Williams wrote: Nick wrote: ... I ran it today, and found after running it on 2 burner fills, the boiler was almost empty. ... They were designed to have the boiler filled every time the burner is filled. If you don't, you run the risk of running dry and consequent damage (and inconvenience if it happens in the middle of a pond) I'm sure you know that already, Nick, but I'm repeating it for the benefit of newcomers who don't have the instructions (or my booklet ) What I meant was I filled the burner once to get the water to the boiling point, then pulled it out, re-filled it and ran it until the burner went out. (The burner had not run out when I re-filled it) You aren't supposed to do that Nick, Either boiler the water and pour it in the boiler hot. Or leave it to heat up from cold. One burner fill per run no matter what happens   ME1's are perfect for boats! Roly Williams Re: Boat for my ME1 Mamodman123 wrote: Nick wrote: Roly Williams wrote: Nick wrote: ... I ran it today, and found after running it on 2 burner fills, the boiler was almost empty. ... They were designed to have the boiler filled every time the burner is filled. If you don't, you run the risk of running dry and consequent damage (and inconvenience if it happens in the middle of a pond) I'm sure you know that already, Nick, but I'm repeating it for the benefit of newcomers who don't have the instructions (or my booklet ) What I meant was I filled the burner once to get the water to the boiling point, then pulled it out, re-filled it and ran it until the burner went out. (The burner had not run out when I re-filled it) You aren't supposed to do that Nick, Either boiler the water and pour it in the boiler hot. Or leave it to heat up from cold. One burner fill per run no matter what happens   ME1's are perfect for boats! It's not quite so bad. It's almost like filling the boiler with hot water to start with. I'm not sure if the official instructions say to do that. I know most of us do. I would still recommend boiling the water in a kettle first and using only one fill of the burner. It's cheaper on meths for starters. johnreid So, what boat is a good choice for his ME1? I have a ME3 but at the Moment dont plan on building a boat, although that Arrow sure looks tempting, would it be the right size? mogogear When you all get your hulls sorted out...And I think Moose does this too- I take a nice thermos bottle filled with boiled water to take out to the lake with me- I fill my boiler with nice hot water there and then fire up the burner...maximizing the run time at sea!! As far as which boat hull can accommodate a Mamod 1, 2 or 3 ???...The Arrow might not be quite big enough IMHO... the added base plate of the Mamod's add a bit of mass. Moose could chime in with more experience and opinion since he has run his Arrow... The kit is great- the wood of the Arrow kit is a bit thick and heavy which allows for ease of building...but increases the hull weight and teamed with the Mamod , might make the water line a little higher than you could want.... Remember -swimming as a rescue plan is not all that fun when retrieving these from the bottom...a tactical maneuver that I AM well qualified to speak on     kusuchi I think the character of the ME1 would be a perfect match for the Arrow but Greg may well be right about the weight. Like him, I defer to Moose. MooseMan I'm sure the ME1 would fit the arrow, but you would have to remove it from the baseplate, or cut the baseplate down. As Mo already mentioned, a thermos is a great accessory for the model boater......fill your boiler up with hot water to reduce steamup time, and make yourself a nice cuppa with the leftovers!   RocDoc I could send you some measurements of the Arrow engine bay if it would help. I would recommend the Arrow kit as it is such fun building a boat from scratch ... a bit frustrating at times ... but that is part of the fun. Pete talluncle31 Boat for ME1 I have two of these engines in boats. One is a launch, the other a three hatch freighter, 26" and 24" overall respectively. Neither is kit built, but they are an indication of suitable size boats. The baseplate is best removed and the boiler located further forward from the engine so as to get a good trim. Don't be tempted to fit a larger propeller for better appearance, the engine needs to rev. Murray Wilson johnreid One would think that these engines went into something fairly common, what were they most often used in? I for one would not want to cut up mine. talluncle31 Boat for ME1 The trouble is that with the angle the propeller shaft is set at the engine needs to be near the stern and the width of the baseplate precludes almost any hull but a self propelled barge. Murray Wilson johnreid I have the ME3 I think it is shorter, or has mine been modified? mogogear Re: Boat for ME1 talluncle31 wrote: I have two of these engines in boats. One is a launch, the other a three hatch freighter, 26" and 24" overall respectively. Neither is kit built, but they are an indication of suitable size boats. The baseplate is best removed and the boiler located further forward from the engine so as to get a good trim. Don't be tempted to fit a larger propeller for better appearance, the engine needs to rev. Murray Wilson I bet these fellows ( Nick and John) as well as others would love to see your set ups!! Pic's?        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Steam Launches and Boats Page 1 of 1