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Sandman

Bowman M101

As you all know I've just bought the engine below. On looking at the pic, I don't see any exhaust pipe going to the chimney
or any hole for one.

On looking at the picture of all the bowmans together, the one there looks as if it does not have one either.

Looking at others, on Moosemans site for example, it would seem that they have exhaust pipes going to the chimney.

Does anyone know what the norm is???

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAP...A:PIC&ih=004#ebayphotohosting
Mamodman123

Hmmmm not too sure SM!

I'm not a bowman expert but the top range Bowmans don't seem to have exhaust to chimney do they? Like the M122 for instance? I'm just not sure

If there is a hole its on the other side I guess
SPOKESMAN

It should have an exhaust pipe to the chimney!
Sandman

I,ve just had a close look at the one on Ebay and it might be that I just can't see it.

I think it may be hidden behind the block.
The one on ebay has an exhaust pipe that protrudes and I think would have the same overpipe as the M175 to connect it to the chimney.

Just guessing though.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
I,ve just had a close look at the one on Ebay and it might be that I just can't see it.

I think it may be hidden behind the block.
The one on ebay has an exhaust pipe that protrudes and I think would have the same overpipe as the M175 to connect it to the chimney.

Just guessing though.


Well if its missing then you'll have to have a go at soldering one on or leave it as it is Hope its ok SM!
mj

A pre resto photo showing the exhaust (bottom) pipe



This ones not so clear at showing the exhaust pipe entering the chimney about 3" up from the base.



On the one you've bought, the chimney looks a bit close to the boiler.
Should be spaced off with a nut
Mamodman123

I zoomed in on the picture, can't see a pipe or a hole for the exhaust
oldstuff

Good question...Mj's clearly shown one, but is it possible some were made without?

Here's another, an E101, on ebayLive.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/...0091572507QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Mamodman123

oldstuff wrote:
Good question...Mj's clearly shown one, but is it possible some were made without? Here's another, an E101, on ebayLive.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/...0091572507QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
/

There's a pipe in that one I think! A small pipe bent down?
Mamodman123

oldstuff wrote:
Good question...Mj's clearly shown one, but is it possible some were made without? Here's another, an E101, on ebayLive.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/...0091572507QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
/

There's a pipe in that one I think! A small pipe bent down?
Sandman

Yep. It may be that the chimney is just sitting on the base.

The centre stay is prone to corrosion and could need replacing.

Not the end of the world. Odilon gives a good account of replacement on his website.

If it is, it should have been mentioned in the description though.
mj

oldstuff wrote:
Good question...Mj's clearly shown one, but is it possible some were made without?

Here's another, an E101, on ebayLive.

http://cgi.liveauctions.ebay.com/...0091572507QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW


This one & sm's may just have the loose 3/16" tube missing & the chimney fixed on back to front (so you cant see the hole).
There is a short piece (2"long) of 1/8" pipe soldered to the exhaust port, onto this slides a 3/16" pipe that extends up to the chimney (you can just see this in the first pic i posted a few minutes ago). I thinks that all thats missing & should be easily replaced
Mamodman123

You mean the bolt that goes through the boiler? You do need it don't you?

Either way SM its still a lovely engine!
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
You mean the bolt that goes through the boiler? You do need it don't you?

Either way SM its still a lovely engine!


Mooseman says it's cosmetic.

I agree MM. I'll have that engine looking a treat whether it needs new pipework and a new boiler stay or not.

At the end of the day it will give me all the more satisfaction.

All the main parts are there and I really wanted one.
Lewis

Nice engine there SM You must have wanted it bad look at that price is this the biggest bowman ?
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
You mean the bolt that goes through the boiler? You do need it don't you?

Either way SM its still a lovely engine!


Mooseman says it's cosmetic.

I agree MM. I'll have that engine looking a treat whether it needs new pipework and a new boiler stay or not.

At the end of the day it will give me all the more satisfaction.

All the main parts are there and I really wanted one.


Its always best to have something to do on an engine SM! Otherwise you polish it up and thats the lot, but if you have more work to do you can get more satisfaction out of finishing the job

Thats how I see it! Pipe or no pipe its the best 101 ive ever seen!
oldstuff

Ditto. You must expect to pay more when it's in good nick...and that one is!
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
You mean the bolt that goes through the boiler? You do need it don't you?

Either way SM its still a lovely engine!


Mooseman says it's cosmetic.

I agree MM. I'll have that engine looking a treat whether it needs new pipework and a new boiler stay or not.

At the end of the day it will give me all the more satisfaction.

All the main parts are there and I really wanted one.


Its always best to have something to do on an engine SM! Otherwise you polish it up and thats the lot, but if you have more work to do you can get more satisfaction out of finishing the job

Thats how I see it! Pipe or no pipe its the best 101 ive ever seen!


My thinking to a T MM.

Too easy and it means nothing.

I get more kick out of fixing an engine up than just polishing it.
Bring it on. This is going to be the pride of my collection.
Mamodman123

Exactly SM! Good luck with it aswell! Keep us posted
mj



Copper exhaust pipe (bottom right). The 2 stubby bits of pipe with a nut one end is the steam/exhaust assembly (soldered together).
Sandman

mj wrote:


Copper exhaust pipe (bottom right). The 2 stubby bits of pipe with a nut one end is the steam/exhaust assembly (soldered together).


Thanks a mill mj. That confirms that I may well not see the exhaust pipe behind the block.

Jeez. Look at all those parts I have to polish.

Magic stuff.
mj

It'll be a labour of love shining that lot up
As the old saying goes, "you'll be very surprised at how big it" is when you get your hands on it
I'm sure it 'll be the chmney the wrong way round & just a replacement exhast pipe to fix it. Are you going to fire before & after the clean up
Sandman

mj wrote:
It'll be a labour of love shining that lot up
As the old saying goes, "you'll be very surprised at how big it" is when you get your hands on it
I'm sure it 'll be the chmney the wrong way round & just a replacement exhast pipe to fix it. Are you going to fire before & after the clean up


I really want to fire it before. That's why I hope there's no really major stuff to do.

If I'm honest I'd love to see the beast running.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
mj wrote:
It'll be a labour of love shining that lot up
As the old saying goes, "you'll be very surprised at how big it" is when you get your hands on it
I'm sure it 'll be the chmney the wrong way round & just a replacement exhast pipe to fix it. Are you going to fire before & after the clean up


I really want to fire it before. That's why I hope there's no really major stuff to do.

If I'm honest I'd love to see the beast running.


Fire it then SM! You don't need an exhaust pipe to fire her up! Would be interesting to see! Ive never seen one go weither
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
mj wrote:
It'll be a labour of love shining that lot up
As the old saying goes, "you'll be very surprised at how big it" is when you get your hands on it
I'm sure it 'll be the chmney the wrong way round & just a replacement exhast pipe to fix it. Are you going to fire before & after the clean up


I really want to fire it before. That's why I hope there's no really major stuff to do.

If I'm honest I'd love to see the beast running.


Fire it then SM! You don't need an exhaust pipe to fire her up! Would be interesting to see! Ive never seen one go weither


I've every intention MM.

I saw a couple under steam at the STIA and they looked awesome.

It was then I decided I really had to have one.

I would like to try it anyway just to make sure it's steam tight before I do anything else.

It's too big a job to take chances with.
MooseMan

The main reason to replace the stay rod is that t hey're originally iron, and invariably rust and perish. When I got my 101, the boiler was full of red rust, and leaking at both points where the stay is soldered in. It's only soft solder, so replacing it is a piece of cake. I used some brass tube, with a bit of threaded rod turned into it at one end and a brass bolt at the other - this caused the brass tube to flare out a bit and made it a very good fit to the boiler endplates - I then simply soldered it into place.

Wether the stay rod's functional is debatable - at that sort of pressure, I doubt it, but given that the 101 endcap is held by solder only - no friction fit of any kind - it's kind of reassuring......we're talking about quite a large volume of steam and water, and wouldn't want to be too close to it were it to fail.

The 101 does have an exhaust pipe - there is a short length of 1/8" pipe soldered to the exhaust port,over which a longer length of 5/32" pipe is a sliding fit - this then goes to the chimney. A very easy little improvement is to put a rubber bung in the bottom of the chimney - hey presto, condensate trap and not running over your baseplate!
Mamodman123

Yep should steam like a treat SM! Just don't overfill the bugger

Why did they use iron for the rod? Surely they realise that Water and iron= rust?
Lewis

is your bowman sm the biggest bowman ever made ?
Sandman

Thanks Odilon. I was in your site looking at your restoration notes.

That's why I'm not too worried if the stay rod does need replacing.

You describe the process well. Bring it on.
Steve_S

I put a rubber bung in the bottom of the chimney on my E135. It's great until the water level reaches the exhaust pipe hole....
mj



Mine seemed like an eternity before it was steamed. We had to strip down everthing & repaint (apart from the red engine frame).
New wooden base & decal.
It a beast of an engine, shame the burners are a bit flimsy.
Mamodman123

Steve_S wrote:
I put a rubber bung in the bottom of the chimney on my E135. It's great until the water level reaches the exhaust pipe hole....


Every Bowman ive ever had has primed like its going out of fashion....
Sandman

lewisop1991 wrote:
is your bowman sm the biggest bowman ever made ?


Yes Lewis.

It's the biggest they mass produced.

They might have made some bigger as trials, but I couldn't say.
Lewis

Sandman wrote:
lewisop1991 wrote:
is your bowman sm the biggest bowman ever made ?


Yes Lewis.

It's the biggest they mass produced.

They might have made some bigger as trials, but I couldn't say.


looks very big from the pics mate
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
lewisop1991 wrote:
is your bowman sm the biggest bowman ever made ?


Yes Lewis.

It's the biggest they mass produced.

They might have made some bigger as trials, but I couldn't say.


They made bigger?
Steve_S

The overflow holes are mostly too high. I never fill them that much, and they run better for it I think!
MooseMan

Mamodman123 wrote:
Yep should steam like a treat SM! Just don't overfill the bugger

Why did they use iron for the rod? Surely they realise that Water and iron= rust?


Bad design decision I guess.......Geoffrey Bowman Jenkins writes in one of the blurbs about how well Bowman engines last, and that after 5 years most of them are still fine.....I guess he hadn't reckoned with 80 years.

On all Bowmans the level plug is too high up - I usually fill the boiler no more than halfway, otherwise they prime something chronic.

....oh Steve beat me to it
Mamodman123

MooseMan wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Yep should steam like a treat SM! Just don't overfill the bugger

Why did they use iron for the rod? Surely they realise that Water and iron= rust?


Bad design decision I guess.......Geoffrey Bowman Jenkins writes in one of the blurbs about how well Bowman engines last, and that after 5 years most of them are still fine.....I guess he hadn't reckoned with 80 years.

On all Bowmans the level plug is too high up - I usually fill the boiler no more than halfway, otherwise they prime something chronic.

....oh Steve beat me to it


I'll give that a go! Should i just tip a bit out when it fills right up?
Sandman

Jeez mj. You made a grand job of yours.

Looks like a different engine. Great stuff.
MooseMan

Sandman wrote:
lewisop1991 wrote:
is your bowman sm the biggest bowman ever made ?


Yes Lewis.

It's the biggest they mass produced.

They might have made some bigger as trials, but I couldn't say.


101 certainly has the largest boiler, but I guess the 122 is possibly the most powerful Bowman - mine's unstoppable
MooseMan

There's nothing like that great big flywheel and gear on the 101 though....pure magic. Great sound as well.
MooseMan

Mamodman123 wrote:
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I'll give that a go! Should i just tip a bit out when it fills right up?


MM I fill my boilers with a 50cc syringe - at the point where it starts flowing out I take 50cc back out on the 101, 25 on the other bigger Bowmans, and 10 on the small ones.
Mamodman123

MooseMan wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
[

I'll give that a go! Should i just tip a bit out when it fills right up?


MM I fill my boilers with a 50cc syringe - at the point where it starts flowing out I take 50cc back out on the 101, 25 on the other bigger Bowmans, and 10 on the small ones.


Ah ha I see! I'll give that a go and see how we get on
oldstuff

MooseMan wrote:

On all Bowmans the level plug is too high up - I usually fill the boiler no more than halfway, otherwise they prime something chronic.


Must be an easy mistake to make...both engines I've made suffer this same flaw.
Sandman

Well I've got at last.

The first thing that hits you is the size of the beast.
The dimensions of the flywheel, countershaft wheel and burner are huge.

Here are my first impressions.

Minor faults.

Whistle and safety valve more than finger tight.
Safety valve spring gone
Handle on the steam pipe valve replaced by a screw.
Oiler tap missing.
Exhaust pipe to chimney missing.

More major stuff.

The boiler stay has been replaced with two screws with fibre washers. (Looks steam tight)

Overall First Impression.

The running gear looks fine with no apparent problems.

The paintwork on the engine frame and the base is dirty, but in remarkable condition.

A cursory glance at the boiler reveals no dings or dents.

To sum up I would say that this is a cracker of an engine for it's age.
I'm really looking forward to getting my teeth into this one.

I know I paid a considerable sum for this engine(almost £200.00), but now I see it, I think I've got a bargain.
yosa

Nice one SM, well worth the wait.

Pics, pics, pics,
tmuir

I know what you will be doing this weekend SM.
SPOKESMAN

Aye, get them pics up SM!
Mamodman123

Wow sounds promising SM! Can't wait for the pics
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow sounds promising SM! Can't wait for the pics


Pics tonight guys.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow sounds promising SM! Can't wait for the pics


Pics tonight guys.


Good man
SPOKESMAN

Look forward to those SM!
Sandman

O.K. guys and gals here are the pics.

I still can't believe the size of this thing. It's a real mans machine.
They should have called it "The Bowman Macho" or something.

Anyway here goes.



Look at the size of that burner.



Whistle and valve showing the screw instead of the proper lever.



Here's the decal.



Lastly with a minor just to give an idea of the overall size.
Remember the small engine is at the front so it looks bigger.

Mamodman123

All looks good!

The countershaft gear is HUGE! you could take that off and cut trees down with it . All looks good SM I must say, decal, base,firebox all good nick!

The lever has some sort of screw, but i'm sure you can find a spare from somewhere

What was the mystery surrounding the exhaust pipe?
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
All looks good!

The countershaft gear is HUGE! you could take that off and cut trees down with it . All looks good SM I must say, decal, base,firebox all good nick!

The lever has some sort of screw, but i'm sure you can find a spare from somewhere

What was the mystery surrounding the exhaust pipe?


It's OK MM.

It was just like MJ said.

If you look in the second pic you can see the exhaust pipe sticking out at the back.

I'm going to try the drill lathe method to make an oiler tap, so I may just try to make a lever as well.

Does anyone have a pic of the steam valve to give me an idea of what I'm looking for????
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
All looks good!

The countershaft gear is HUGE! you could take that off and cut trees down with it . All looks good SM I must say, decal, base,firebox all good nick!

The lever has some sort of screw, but i'm sure you can find a spare from somewhere

What was the mystery surrounding the exhaust pipe?


It's OK MM.

It was just like MJ said.

If you look in the second pic you can see the exhaust pipe sticking out at the back.

I'm going to try the drill lathe method to make an oiler tap, so I may just try to make a lever as well.

Does anyone have a pic of the steam valve to give me an idea of whatI'm looking for????


Ahh I can see it now SM! that's a relief
James

Girth Bowman
mj

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
All looks good!

The countershaft gear is HUGE! you could take that off and cut trees down with it . All looks good SM I must say, decal, base,firebox all good nick!

The lever has some sort of screw, but i'm sure you can find a spare from somewhere

What was the mystery surrounding the exhaust pipe?


It's OK MM.

It was just like MJ said.

If you look in the second pic you can see the exhaust pipe sticking out at the back.

I'm going to try the drill lathe method to make an oiler tap, so I may just try to make a lever as well.

Does anyone have a pic of the steam valve to give me an idea of what I'm looking for????


Looks like a good un to me, not to much work. When you gonna steam her?
Let us know how easy the oiler tap is, as my newly arrived 135 is missing one.
Sandman

I'm going to steam her before I start the resto, to check for problems.

Steve made an oiler tap for his Bowman and you couldn't tell the difference from a real one.

He has a special talent though . I'm hoping I can get something near to his quality.
mj

Sandman wrote:
I'm going to steam her before I start the resto, to check for problems.

Steve made an oiler tap for his Bowman and you couldn't tell the difference from a real one.

He has a special talent though . I'm hoping I can get something near to his quality.

I know he made it sound easy, but brass is pretty soft to work.
Even for us amateurs
Steve_S

It's a great engine Sandy... I'm insanely jealous! They really are big aren't they? Can't wait to see it running!

As for the oiler tap... it wasn't hard to do (as you'll find out!) ... no great skill needed.
Mamodman123

mj wrote:
Sandman wrote:
I'm going to steam her before I start the resto, to check for problems.

Steve made an oiler tap for his Bowman and you couldn't tell the difference from a real one.

He has a special talent though . I'm hoping I can get something near to his quality.

I know he made it sound easy, but brass is pretty soft to work.
Even for us amateurs


It is indeed MJ
SPOKESMAN

Great to see that one SM!
Wallace

Great Stuff SM

Hard to imagine the size until you put the mamod next to it.

Great stuff
yosa

That's a whopper mate.

A real beauty, definately caught the Bowman bug now.

Apart from the obvious, like the tap, it doesn't look like much needs doing, certainly doesn't need a repaint. Excellent condition. Nice one SM.
MooseMan

Sandy, that's the best 101 I've seen for a long time - you paid a fair price for it.

The only thing in addition to what you've already spotted is that the regulator handle is not original....a very minor deal, I'll send you a picture of mine when I get home, but you can just leave yours as is as it looks functional.

Fantastic buy mate - run it yet? You'll love it!
Sandman

Thanks Odilon.

I may PM you shorly for some detail on how to repair the boiler stay.

I've been looking for brass threaded rod or long screws, but they are hard to source.
Any ideas there as well??

I'm going to take my time with this one.
I want it to be my top engine.
yosa

Moose, regarding my 135, which everybody seems to agree needs a full resto. Could I get hold of a decal from you please.

If you need any chores doing in return, lawn mowed, car washed, drains unblocked, just let me know and I'll get 'er indoors to hitchhike over to your house.

Seriously mate, if you've got one for sale, please pm the details. Thanks mate.
Griffin

That is a lovely engine SM, I bet you are over the moon with that one.

Well done
Sandman

As you know I'll not be able to finish the job on my M135 till Wednesday, so I thought I'd give Steves' oiler tap making a try.

This engine is so big that when I tried the other Bowman oiler tap in it, it looked small and fiddley.

I decided to make this one slightly bigger in dimentions (1/16") on the narrowest part of the tap, to make it more in keeping with the beast.

I'm really pleased with the result and I can't thank Steve enough for pointing me in the right direction and showing me what can be achieved with a bit of care.

Here is the new tap. (Still to be finish polished)



Roughly in situ.

Mamodman123

Nothing wrong with that SM! Great job
SPOKESMAN

Sandman wrote:
As you know I'll not be able to finish the job on my M135 till Wednesday, so I thought I'd give Steves' oiler tap making a try.

This engine is so big that when I tried the other Bowman oiler tap in it, it looked small and fiddley.

I decided to make this one slightly bigger in dimentions (1/16") on the narrowest part of the tap, to make it more in keeping with the beast.

I'm really pleased with the result and I can't thank Steve enough for pointing me in the right direction and showing me what can be achieved with a bit of care.

Here is the new tap. (Still to be finish polished)



Roughly in situ.



They look top notch - he's made a couple for me too!
Sandman

The only thing I would watch for is the bending process.

I took no chances and annealed the shank before I bent it, just in case it broke.

I found that the drill worked fine as a small lathe.

No doubt I'll try other projects when required.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
The only thing I would watch for is the bending process.

I took no chances and annealed the shank before I bent it, just in case it broke.

I found that the drill worked fine as a small lathe.

No doubt I'll try other projects when required.


did you put the drill in a vice or something? Obviously you didn't hold it all by hand...or did you?
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
The only thing I would watch for is the bending process.

I took no chances and annealed the shank before I bent it, just in case it broke.

I found that the drill worked fine as a small lathe.

No doubt I'll try other projects when required.


did you put the drill in a vice or something? Obviously you didn't hold it all by hand...or did you?


Yep. Nipped it up in the vice and used it like a small lath MM.

I've got a really heavy duty drill with multiple speed adjustments which helps as well.

Works a treat.
Mamodman123

I see now SM! Might have to try that at some point You just used a file then?
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
I see now SM! Might have to try that at some point You just used a file then?


Yep. I have a set of needle and warding files I got from Homebase.

Do the job perfect.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
I see now SM! Might have to try that at some point You just used a file then?


Yep. I have a set of needle and warding files I got from Homebase.

Do the job perfect.


It all becomes clearer!

Mine is missing one so I'll probably have a bash at it myself . You know me SM, I like to get repairs and things done myself , with a bit of help of course

A sterling job anyway mate!
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
I see now SM! Might have to try that at some point You just used a file then?


Yep. I have a set of needle and warding files I got from Homebase.

Do the job perfect.


It all becomes clearer!

Mine is missing one so I'll probably have a bash at it myself . You know me SM, I like to get repairs and things done myself , with a bit of help of course

A sterling job anyway mate!


Go for it MM.

As Steve said, it's not that difficult.

You also get the satisafaction of making it yourself.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
I see now SM! Might have to try that at some point You just used a file then?


Yep. I have a set of needle and warding files I got from Homebase.

Do the job perfect.


It all becomes clearer!

Mine is missing one so I'll probably have a bash at it myself . You know me SM, I like to get repairs and things done myself , with a bit of help of course

A sterling job anyway mate!


Go for it MM.

As Steve said, it's not that difficult.

You also get the satisafaction of making it yourself.


Aye shall have a go SM!
Steve_S

That's great Sandy! It looks really good! I'm glad it worked for you too. Did you find that the file clogged up quickly? I found that I had to clean the brass from the file quite often, but I suppose that's only to be expected. Did you make the tapered end first? Much easier that way I think. On one of the ones I've done for Mike I made the mistake of doing the handle end first which made things a bit awkward, but it came out OK in the end. I'll know next time...another lesson learned!

Edit: I didn't anneal the brass before I bent them, but maybe I was lucky. As yours is bigger I'm sure you did the right thing. It'd be a bugger if it snapped!
Sandman

Steve_S wrote:
That's great Sandy! It looks really good! I'm glad it worked for you too. Did you find that the file clogged up quickly? I found that I had to clean the brass from the file quite often, but I suppose that's only to be expected. Did you make the tapered end first? Much easier that way I think. On one of the ones I've done for Mike I made the mistake of doing the handle end first which made things a bit awkward, but it came out OK in the end. I'll know next time...another lesson learned!

Edit: I didn't anneal the brass before I bent them, but maybe I was lucky. As yours is bigger I'm sure you did the right thing. It'd be a bugger if it snapped!


Yep. I made the tapered end first and worked back.

The files needed regular cleaning, but I was amazed at how quickly it cut through the brass.

I made mine in one go and parted it off Steve.

Did you turn yours round to finish the handle???
Steve_S

Sandman wrote:
Did you turn yours round to finish the handle???


That's what I had to do on the one that I did 'wrong'. I had to put the tapered end into a bit of plasic sleeving (insulation off some cable) so that I could hold it in the drill chuck. The way you did it is definitely the right way!
Sandman

I decided to give the 101 a try today. I just gave it a thorough oiling , popped some meths in the burner and crossed my fingers.

Here's the result.


Mamodman123

Wow a SM steam video! Long overdue SM

It certainly runs a treat! The whistle is free aswell

IT is certainly a lovely model SM! Worthy of anyones collection Are there any more Bowmans you need now? Or have you got them all?
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow a SM steam video! Long overdue SM

It certainly runs a treat! The whistle is free aswell

IT is certainly a lovely model SM! Worthy of anyones collection Are there any more Bowmans you need now? Or have you got them all?


I think it's the 158 I've still to get. The one MTA has. (Keep forgetting numbers)

I have to say it went a lot better than I could have hoped.

I'm really going to have fun with this one MM.
Steve_S

You've certainly got a winner there! I'm sure it'll be the star of the show once you've done with it.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow a SM steam video! Long overdue SM

It certainly runs a treat! The whistle is free aswell

IT is certainly a lovely model SM! Worthy of anyones collection Are there any more Bowmans you need now? Or have you got them all?


I think it's the 158 I've still to get. The one MTA has. (Keep forgetting numbers)

I have to say it went a lot better than I could have hoped.

I'm really going to have fun with this one MM.


Ah the 158, I have that one! Nice little model that one is! Doesn't compare to that monster though Sandy

I think I'd get a lot of enjoyment out of steaming that one SM! How long did it go for?
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Wow a SM steam video! Long overdue SM

It certainly runs a treat! The whistle is free aswell

IT is certainly a lovely model SM! Worthy of anyones collection Are there any more Bowmans you need now? Or have you got them all?


I think it's the 158 I've still to get. The one MTA has. (Keep forgetting numbers)

I have to say it went a lot better than I could have hoped.

I'm really going to have fun with this one MM.


Ah the 158, I have that one! Nice little model that one is! Doesn't compare to that monster though Sandy

I think I'd get a lot of enjoyment out of steaming that one SM! How long did it go for?


I ran it for over 15 mins MM. The video was taken over about 15 mins hence the different running speeds.

I don't know how long it would have run, but I emptied a lot of water from the boiler and a lot of meths from the burner. The bloody thing near took half a bottle of meths.

What I was really pleased about was the fact that it only took a couple of squirts of WD40 to free up everything.

It's going to be some looker MM.
Mamodman123

Aye they run for a fair time SM! The fact that it only needed a few squirts of WD40 to free it all up is a testiment to the build quality of the time SM!

Can't wait to see it finished, maybe you can fire it at STIA next year?
yosa

That's definately a serious engine SM. Fantastic runner, great looking.
SPOKESMAN

Excellent stuff SM - is the oiler working OK?
Sandman

SPOKESMAN wrote:
Excellent stuff SM - is the oiler working OK?


I've still to file the flat on the tap to allow the oil through Mike.

That will be trial and error when I do the first steaming after the resto.

Steve says it works fine.
SPOKESMAN

Sandman wrote:
SPOKESMAN wrote:
Excellent stuff SM - is the oiler working OK?


I've still to file the flat on the tap to allow the oil through Mike.

That will be trial and error when I do the first steaming after the resto.

Steve says it works fine.



Good 'cos he's sending me two!!
MooseMan

As you say Sandy, looks like you have a winner. Runs beautifully - from the nice steady beat I can tell that there's not a great deal of piston wear there.

Hard to beat a 101....can't wait to see what this baby will look like after some of that good old Sandman magic!
Sandman

MooseMan wrote:
As you say Sandy, looks like you have a winner. Runs beautifully - from the nice steady beat I can tell that there's not a great deal of piston wear there.

Hard to beat a 101....can't wait to see what this baby will look like after some of that good old Sandman magic!


Thanks mate.

I've done a partial strip down today. I plan to start with the boiler first and get it finished.

The rest looks pretty straight forward.

Just as a little aside, the guy who sold me it emailed me through ebay and told me it was a much valued family asset and he was glad it was going to a good home. (I told him I was a collector.)

I can believe it as it's in really good nick.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
MooseMan wrote:
As you say Sandy, looks like you have a winner. Runs beautifully - from the nice steady beat I can tell that there's not a great deal of piston wear there.

Hard to beat a 101....can't wait to see what this baby will look like after some of that good old Sandman magic!


Thanks mate.

I've done a partial strip down today. I plan to start with the boiler first and get it finished.

The rest looks pretty straight forward.

Just as a little aside, the guy who sold me it emailed me through ebay and told me it was a much valued family asset and he was glad it was going to a good home. (I told him I was a collector.)

I can believe it as it's in really good nick.


Send him a pic when you are done SM! Ive done that a few times
mj

It's a beasty sandman, about time we had a '101 owners club' thread
Just a note from another thread tonight about grooved flywheels.
I see your 101 has the groove, the steam regulator certainly makes it a later model. It would be nice to date the flywheel/stem regulator. An advert on the bowman circle page says 'EXTRACTS FROM 'THE BOWMAN BOOK OF STEAM MODELS' C.1931', which shows the regulator, but plain flywheel.
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
MooseMan wrote:
As you say Sandy, looks like you have a winner. Runs beautifully - from the nice steady beat I can tell that there's not a great deal of piston wear there.

Hard to beat a 101....can't wait to see what this baby will look like after some of that good old Sandman magic!


Thanks mate.

I've done a partial strip down today. I plan to start with the boiler first and get it finished.

The rest looks pretty straight forward.

Just as a little aside, the guy who sold me it emailed me through ebay and told me it was a much valued family asset and he was glad it was going to a good home. (I told him I was a collector.)

I can believe it as it's in really good nick.


Send him a pic when you are done SM! Ive done that a few times


Good idea MM , I might just do that.
He seemed a really nice guy.

mj, a 101 owners club sounds good.

What's your guess at an age??????
MooseMan

Sandy, an informed guess at the age would be towards the end of production, so round about 1935.

101 owners club? Where do I sign?
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