MooseMan
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Bye Bye Tony BlairWell, after 10 years, that's it for Tony. I voted for him in '97 - not sure if I would today. Let's see what Gordon gets up to!
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Sandman
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | MooseMan wrote: | | Well, after 10 years, that's it for Tony. I voted for him in '97 - not sure if I would today. Let's see what Gordon gets up to! |
There's been a lot worse Odilon.
Time to go yes, but what a statesman.
I wish him well. 
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MTA
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I don't know what it is about Gordon Brown, but I just don't think I'll like him as a Prime Minister 
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John Chapman
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | Sandman wrote: |
There's been a lot worse Odilon.
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Too true Sandy
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SillyBilly
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| MTA wrote: | | I don't know what it is about Gordon Brown, but I just don't think I'll like him as a Prime Minister |
Probaly 'cos you can't remember a diffrent one? As that's how I feel. But thank god we've got rid of Blair, because perhaps Gordon won't be as friendly with Bush. 'cos he's killed all those people in Iraq for NO reason realy!
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James
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I wish Winston were still PM, he were a war monger like me 
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Chris
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Maybe if you were living in Iraq you would see the war differently.
The reasons given for going to war were possibly not good. The fact that Saddam is out of power certainly is good. 180,000 dead kurds I think is a good enough reason to go to war. Maybe it wasn't our war to fight, but someone had to.
Tony grins too much, just seems a bit too friendly, but he has done damn well to stay in power as long as he has. Will be interesting to see if and how things change with Gordon. Tony has made some tough decisions, I think many of them right ones. I never did vote for him though!
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James
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Labour are a load of cack. They do nowt for the people in the countryside!
They bum all the people down south and the old people to get the most votes...
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MTA
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| James wrote: | Labour are a load of cack. They do nowt for the people in the countryside!
They bum all the people down south and the old people to get the most votes... |
We aren't Labour at all where I live, it's Torie County here!
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James
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Good lad!
Labour are a load of lying gits who only care about the people living in the cities and the ones coming into our country for cheap work 
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Sandman
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| James wrote: | Labour are a load of cack. They do nowt for the people in the countryside!
They bum all the people down south and the old people to get the most votes... |
Aye and look at t' price of a pint lad, and t' bloody petrol.
Get t' torys in. At least they're honest about robbin' us blind lad.
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James
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Aye that's who all us round eer vote!
Keep Britain farming and all that! With Labour importing food in cheaper, more and more farmers can't afford to bloody survive on their crops. Not so long ago a farm of 50 acres could keep a family easily. Now it has to be at least a few hundred
If we had our food supplies cut off, due to war or whatever, quite simply Britain would be screwed. Courtesy of Blair 
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Sandman
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I bet 'e ad an 'and in all this rain as well like.
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James
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Aye mate, wouldn't suprise me
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steamyjim
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Labours crap
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Sandman
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| steamyjim wrote: | | Labours crap |
Hard Labour's even worse. 
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MTA
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Just seen Gordon Brown's speech outside No. 10. The way he speaks made him look like the next dictator, or someone who wants to take over the world
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MooseMan
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | John Chapman wrote: | | Sandman wrote: |
There's been a lot worse Odilon.
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Too true Sandy |
No argument with that! I just get a bit annoyed when New Labour call themselves socialists.
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Sandman
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | MooseMan wrote: | | John Chapman wrote: | | Sandman wrote: |
There's been a lot worse Odilon.
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Too true Sandy |
No argument with that! I just get a bit annoyed when New Labour call themselves socialists. |
All parties are so near the center it's hard to tell them apart mate.
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Chris
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | Sandman wrote: | | MooseMan wrote: | | John Chapman wrote: | | Sandman wrote: |
There's been a lot worse Odilon.
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Too true Sandy |
No argument with that! I just get a bit annoyed when New Labour call themselves socialists. |
All parties are so near the center it's hard to tell them apart mate. |
Used to be told that voting liberal was a wasted vote, now what ever party you vote for you are voting liberal.
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Steamgirl
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| MTA wrote: | | Just seen Gordon Brown's speech outside No. 10. The way he speaks made him look like the next dictator, or someone who wants to take over the world |
Someone on the BBC site said it was uncannily like Mr Saxon's speech in Dr Who on Saturday.... be afraid, be very afraid
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tree ted
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| James wrote: | Good lad!
Labour are a load of lying gits who only care about the people living in the cities and the ones coming into our country for cheap work |
Back to the conversation about not knowing any diffrent government. Torries are just as bad. Everything ended up privatised last time they were in hence the reason why everything cost's so much. Nothing is run as a service anymore its all about making a profit for shareholders.
Just look at the rail network now. lots of nice shiney new trains that cant go anywere or run to their potential as network rail are more interested in making a profit.
Post Office is going the same way
Maggie Thatcher the milk snatcher. she screwed the coal miners over so thats why we have to import coal now. She screwed the dockers over. As for going into pointless wars is the Falklands realy worth fighting for? Ok it gave the Vulcans one last bit of glory though.
Tony mite not have been the best and told a few porkies but hes a politician and they all do that. Im sure of one thing you young'uns on here will be glad off as you start jobs through the summer etc that Tony brought in..........
Minimum wage. Id hate to think of the country now if John Major or even Willi9am Hague had been running it for the last 10 years.
Rant over...... for now
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barry1946
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | MooseMan wrote: | | Well, after 10 years, that's it for Tony. I voted for him in '97 - not sure if I would today. Let's see what Gordon gets up to! |
I voted for him too - glad Gordon gets the chance at last. Sadly Tony will probably be remembered for Iraq and The big WMD lie.
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Stilldrillin
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Re: Bye Bye Tony Blair | MooseMan wrote: | | Well, after 10 years, that's it for Tony. I voted for him in '97 - not sure if I would today. Let's see what Gordon gets up to! |
Yes, I also voted for him.
The first thing he did was to take my (£4,000 + 30yrs) target pistol shooting hobby from me.
Then the local (lab) council installed speed humps.
My little MGB couldn`t get over them so I had to sell it! Another (£8,000 + 10yrs) hobby gone.
Part of the deal was a `69 Triumph Bonneville.
I sold that on Ebay, and bought machinery for my little engineering workshop, and many engines.
(Pics to follow, sometime!)
THAT`S HOW I GOT HERE! 
Thank you Tony.
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V8Nick
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Tony, you forgot that the rolling 25 years old tax exemption for classic cars stopped in 1997, hence the cutoff date is still 1st Jan 1973 (and I own a 1974 mini!).
On the plus side, we're all much less likeley to be killed by an IRA bomb. Thanks, in no small part, to the efforts of Mo Mowlam.
Foxhunting? No better than dog fighting or badger baiting. If the fox population needs to be controled I don't have any problem with people blasting their heads off with shotguns. I don't see why it requires fifty people on horses and a similar number of dogs PER FOX! It's just not efficiant!
And it's no good saying that it creates jobs. Mining creates jobs! Building cars creates jobs! But 20 years ago, a certain prime minister decreed that it was not the business of the government to provide jobs for the people. And so now we have no manufacturing industry!
Iraq? Bad timing. That should have been delt with back in '91. After all, we put Saddam there, so it was our mess to sort out. Shame it's all gone tits-up!
I'd still vote for Tony/Gordon tomorrow!
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James
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| V8Nick wrote: | Tony, you forgot that the rolling 25 years old tax exemption for classic cars stopped in 1997, hence the cutoff date is still 1st Jan 1973 (and I own a 1974 mini!).
On the plus side, we're all much less likeley to be killed by an IRA bomb. Thanks, in no small part, to the efforts of Mo Mowlam.
Foxhunting? No better than dog fighting or badger baiting. If the fox population needs to be controled I don't have any problem with people blasting their heads off with shotguns. I don't see why it requires fifty people on horses and a similar number of dogs PER FOX! It's just not efficiant!
And it's no good saying that it creates jobs. Mining creates jobs! Building cars creates jobs! But 20 years ago, a certain prime minister decreed that it was not the business of the government to provide jobs for the people. And so now we have no manufacturing industry!
Iraq? Bad timing. That should have been delt with back in '91. After all, we put Saddam there, so it was our mess to sort out. Shame it's all gone tits-up!
I'd still vote for Tony/Gordon tomorrow! |
That's because it is a very old tradition of the countryside. It ain't the killing the fox they are so bothered about, it's the fact the government said they can't do it no more. What difference does it make if it is being shot or being chased? If it is being chased i gives it a chance anyways.
I for one like to see the hunt going past with the dogs and that in them red jackets and all that. Looks good and makes you proud to be English! It's one of the things people associate with England aswell!
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Griffin
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I for one am glad to see the back of Mr. Blair. Up until May 2001 I had a legitimate government controlled recycling business. In the wake of the FMD outbreak of that year Mr Blairs government saw fit to shut us down without any hint of compensation for the self funded specialised equipment that we used for the task.
At least when Mrs Thatcher closed the coal mines down, the miners were compensated, and offered re-training programs, and to quote my Dad who worked in the coal mines for several years, It was the best thing to happen, as no one should have to work in a hole in the ground!!!
After all the coal is still there and it is far cheaper to open cast mine when the need so arises.
Good riddance Mr. Blair, and Mrs Blair for that matter, who is probably more crooked than he is.
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mj
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| James wrote: | What difference does it make if it is being shot or being chased? If it is being chased i gives it a chance anyways.
aswell! |
No difference, i didn't realsie that being chased for hours on end by a pack of dogs, then mauled just before being shot was the same as a clean single shot duing a cull?
Before i hear the comments of , you don't undestand 'hunting & the countryside', i grew up living in the middle of exmoor & followed the local fox/stag hunts during my youth so know exactly how it happens.
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Sandman
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The hunting or not arguments always stir up controversy.
Each side firmly believe they have a point but the truth is a bit more complicated.
I've grown up in the country all my life, but that does not qualify me to make judgments on what is essentially a rural practice that keeps many people in work and in some cases draws much needed income to cash starved areas.
It strikes me that people would be more productively employed thinking about how we could boost rural activities and incomes rather than worry about the eradication of what is no more than a pest.
Just my humble opinion.
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John Chapman
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| Sandman wrote: | The hunting or not arguments always stir up controversy.
Each side firmly believe they have a point but the truth is a bit more complicated.
I've grown up in the country all my life, but that does not qualify me to make judgments on what is essentially a rural practice that keeps many people in work and in some cases draws much needed income to cash starved areas.
It strikes me that people would be more productively employed thinking about how we could boost rural activities and incomes rather than worry about the eradication of what is no more than a pest.
Just my humble opinion. |
Very well said Sandy.
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Stilldrillin
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| John Chapman wrote: | | Sandman wrote: | The hunting or not arguments always stir up controversy.
Each side firmly believe they have a point but the truth is a bit more complicated.
I've grown up in the country all my life, but that does not qualify me to make judgments on what is essentially a rural practice that keeps many people in work and in some cases draws much needed income to cash starved areas.
It strikes me that people would be more productively employed thinking about how we could boost rural activities and incomes rather than worry about the eradication of what is no more than a pest.
Just my humble opinion. |
Very well said Sandy. |
There are way too many people in this country who say,
"I don`t like what you do, and I`m determined to make it my business to stop you doing it"!
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tree ted
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| James wrote: | | V8Nick wrote: | Tony, you forgot that the rolling 25 years old tax exemption for classic cars stopped in 1997, hence the cutoff date is still 1st Jan 1973 (and I own a 1974 mini!).
On the plus side, we're all much less likeley to be killed by an IRA bomb. Thanks, in no small part, to the efforts of Mo Mowlam.
Foxhunting? No better than dog fighting or badger baiting. If the fox population needs to be controled I don't have any problem with people blasting their heads off with shotguns. I don't see why it requires fifty people on horses and a similar number of dogs PER FOX! It's just not efficiant!
And it's no good saying that it creates jobs. Mining creates jobs! Building cars creates jobs! But 20 years ago, a certain prime minister decreed that it was not the business of the government to provide jobs for the people. And so now we have no manufacturing industry!
Iraq? Bad timing. That should have been delt with back in '91. After all, we put Saddam there, so it was our mess to sort out. Shame it's all gone tits-up!
I'd still vote for Tony/Gordon tomorrow! |
That's because it is a very old tradition of the countryside. It ain't the killing the fox they are so bothered about, it's the fact the government said they can't do it no more. What difference does it make if it is being shot or being chased? If it is being chased i gives it a chance anyways.
I for one like to see the hunt going past with the dogs and that in them red jackets and all that. Looks good and makes you proud to be English! It's one of the things people associate with England aswell! |
So was burning witches, caining children in school and hanging people just to find out the justice system is corupt. Supose some things just move on from tradition for the best.
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James
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Naaaa bring it all back!
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Mamodman123
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Bye bye Blair!
Well done for sending young lads to their death in Iraq 
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John Chapman
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | Bye bye Blair!
Well done for sending young lads to their death in Iraq |
Like John Major did in the Gulf War, Maggie did in the Falklands, Eden did at Suez etc. etc. etc.
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Mamodman123
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| John Chapman wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | Bye bye Blair!
Well done for sending young lads to their death in Iraq |
Like John Major did in the Gulf War, Maggie did in the Falklands, Eden did at Suez etc. etc. etc. |
Possibly so... but the smarmy smile polishes it off more so 
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James
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Aye, makes you want to deck him
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Mamodman123
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| James wrote: | | Aye, makes you want to deck him |
The list is too long
Now he's got to employ a crap load of body guards
Total and utter.... (insert any word associated with a toilet here)
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