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igy569

Cast flywheel 5 restoration

I figured I would start a thread here to chronicle the restoration of the cast wheel 5.

Here it is right out of the box from the seller.




The dis-assembly begins...
This one clearly spent a long time in a basement... look at the dust!
Those twist nails were a real bear to remove.

Amazing condition underneath

Heater is in nice shape..

Original paint color.  I lucked out, and have found a good match for this color in a spray can!

The base stripped of all the hardware.  You can see how warped it is here... and dirty!

Here are all the parts laid out.  It is clear this is an all original engine.  I am sure it has never been apart before now.


I started with the base...  here it is all sanded down.  I tried to clean it, but the varnish was too badly deteriorated.  You can see the warp here as well.

This is how I did it.  I left it like this over night, upside down with the very wet towel on it.

The next morning, I laid the towel out on the bench, and put the base on it, with a heavy weight on it all day.  Left the towel nice and wet.  When I got home, the base was flat!  I plan to leave it this way for a few days till I am SURE it is totally dry.

It is already stained.  I will urethane it when it is dry.
I will post more to this thread as I make further progress.
Burnmafingers

Good job on straightening the base out.

For the less knowledgable among us, whos it made by?
redryder

Nice job moisturizing and straightening the warp out of it.

Gil
johnreid

It is a Jensen model 5 Burnma

I bet it turns out like new
tmuir

I seriously looked at buying that one too as I like the cast iron 5s.
But didn't want to take the risk with the siteglass.
johnreid

It was a roll of the dice, but sounds like Owen might have lucked out. I believe it was on Ebay for a higher price before too.
igy569

I will probably have to do the Roger sight glass fix on it, but its OK.  I am somewhat anal retentive, so I have the patience for such things.

Mostly I have that Hawaiian disease.....



Lackamoney....  
Nick

Looks great so far!

What's the color blue you use on the engine frames?
Burnmafingers

johnreid wrote:
It is a Jensen model 5 Burnma



Thanks for that, I am now enlightened  
igy569

Nick wrote:
Looks great so far!

What's the color blue you use on the engine frames?


Bought at Lowes

Valspar Gloss Royal Blue  #65031

It is almost exactly the same color as the underside of the engine frame.  This is the paint I used on the 5 John now has.

The firebox is Rustoleum 500 degree gloss black.  The stain is Cabot Red oak.  With 2 coats Minwax semi-gloss polyurethane.
27ace27

Re: Cast flywheel 5 restoration

igy569 wrote:
I figured I would start a thread here to chronicle the restoration of the cast wheel 5.


This is how I did it.  I left it like this over night, upside down with the very wet towel on it.

The next morning, I laid the towel out on the bench, and put the base on it, with a heavy weight on it all day.  Left the towel nice and wet.  When I got home, the base was flat!  I plan to leave it this way for a few days till I am SURE it is totally dry.



I was right?    I was right!!!  Happy looking good BTW!
IndianaRog

Owen, very nice job straightening that base...I have a Bowman 101 base every bit as warped, might give that technique a try.

To fix these things right, one HAS to be a bit anal retentive.  Welcome to the club!!!

Rog
mogogear

A great start Igy-- well done on the base
igy569

Well.. lets see if in a few days I can get the base to STAY flat!!
27ace27

igy569 wrote:
Well.. lets see if in a few days I can get the base to STAY flat!!


Hmmm... good point.   I'm still happy happy that I helped!  
Les

Great job with the base, looking forward to the rest of the restoration.
Dr. Rog

27ace27 wrote:
igy569 wrote:
Well.. lets see if in a few days I can get the base to STAY flat!!


Hmmm... good point.   I'm still happy happy that I helped!  


Congratulations too you both. Dry it out under a lot of weight and it should stay flat for a good while.
After all look at all those steam-bent chairs.
Griffin

A nice comprehensive pictorial catalogue of the restoration there Owen.  Look forward to the end result.
WeedenSteam

igy569 wrote:
Well.. lets see if in a few days I can get the base to STAY flat!!


If it remains flat might be a good idea to finish both top and underside.
igy569

WeedenSteam wrote:
igy569 wrote:
Well.. lets see if in a few days I can get the base to STAY flat!!


If it remains flat might be a good idea to finish both top and underside.


So far so good.  I am waiting for it to be totally dry, and I plan to do exactly that.
igy569

A few more updates....

Here is the firebox and engine frame sandblasted clean.  Just have to sand them, wipe clean, and paint.



Here are the parts painted.  Also the base stained and ready for polyurethane.


The boiler, flywheel and steam line all polished up.  Boiler is likely going to need the IndianaRog sight glass repair technique.  Just have to find somewhere that can order me that 12-32 tap I need!! (Have to try and find and Ace hardware)



More to come soon!!  I order my parts from Jensen tomorrow.    
Nick

igy569 wrote:
Here are the parts painted.  Also the base stained and ready for polyurethane.

Usually your work is good, but that paint job is pretty poor.  

I found the right picture (nice work Thumbs up! ):

igy569

Grrrrrr... I hate when that happens.  All fixed now.....
igy569

More updates....

The repaired boiler.  I had to polish the front down to the brass.  the nickel was to damaged, looked terrible.



Here is the replacement electrical plug I found... its rubber, a lot like the one that came off, just not round.



I got a much lower mileage cylinder to put on it, but the steam chest from the 5 was badly scored.  I was able to hone it flat again, and the seal is really tight.




The steam motor is ready...

igy569

Here are the rest.  I steamed it too....  These cast flywheel Jensen's are a real treat.






I will post a bunch of more detailed pictures in the pictures section.

Here is the video, and I will also post it in the video section.

This is the hardest video I have ever produced.  I hope you  all like it.

Les

  That's stunning, I do like the brass look on this one.  
igy569

It's only the boiler face...  the rest is the original nickel.. Just carefully polished.  Look at the beginning of this thread..  its a real transformation!!
gd9704

Great job, looks awesome.  You do very nice work!
Dr. Rog

Beutiful work and a very classy engine. I love your electrical control gizmo, it looks from the appropriate period, (sorry its a bit noisy here I couldn't hear your voiceover properly. )  
robertosala

Hey Owen

Another great job!
Congratulations.

You must be very proud, your collection of engines is growing and I guess all of them now look like this one.

I was tempted to buy this engine....actually it was on eBay two or three times I believe but the sight-glass scared me away. "I am too young to die... this one is for masters and lords of steam to repair it right!" I tought...

Great job and thanks for posting the whole procedure.
What did you do to the sight glass threads? you rebuild them? different size now?

Rob
igy569

robertosala wrote:
Hey Owen

Another great job!
Congratulations.

You must be very proud, your collection of engines is growing and I guess all of them now look like this one.

I was tempted to buy this engine....actually it was on eBay two or three times I believe but the sight-glass scared me away. "I am too young to die... this one is for masters and lords of steam to repair it right!" I tought...

Great job and thanks for posting the whole procedure.
What did you do to the sight glass threads? you rebuild them? different size now?

Rob

Check out the restorers tool box on Roger's webpage.  that is how I fixed it!

Also, scroll back up this thread.. there are pictures of the repair.
SlideValve

How did you get the nails out that are holding on the firebox, I am trying to think of way, but can't think of one that won't damage the base

Connor
igy569

I used a pair of cheap nippers, and a lot of patience.  You will note I did NOT put the nails back.  Its my only concession to not keeping the resto 100% accurate.
robertosala

Quote:
Silevalve wrote: How did you get the nails out that are holding on the firebox, I am trying to think of way, but can't think of one that won't damage the base  


I didn't noticed the nails! Yes. I didn't now Jensen used those type of nails on some of their engines!

That is new for me!  

Glad I keep learning.
Bugsy

Just caught up with this thread, Owen.
Great restoration, man!
Very impressive!
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