Archive for The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum The Original Unofficial Toy Steam Forum Established 2006 The biggest, most popular steam forum around! Accept NO imitations! We have a growing community of regular posting members who chat about all aspects of toy and model steam.          The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> General discussion IndianaRog Could use your expertise on dating a Mamod SE3 Hi Guys, I took a few pics of my SE3 recently acquired...as best I can figure it from reading other info on this site, the dating might be early '70's? I wanted to post pics here but can't quite figure out how to do that yet, so stuck them on my website accessible at the following link: http://www.freewebs.com/indianarog/mamodse3.htm Appreciate your thoughts. As I photographed it today it really struck me as a nicely thought out engine and anyone who knows me knows I have this thing for brass...Anyhow, it might seem criminal, but I want to remove the red base and replace with a walnut plinth I came by...I think it will make a nice presentation. If anyone can give me a quick "how to" on forum picture posting, pls. do. cheers, Roger SPOKESMAN Post '65 model as it has rivetted engine frame, pre '72 since it has a turned brass whistle. Personally I would leave the base well alone, the SE3 was designed to be steamed and integrated with Meccano - to take the base away would be sacrilege in my view. The whole unit is a very well though out, superbly designed cohesive engine, aesthetically nothing would be achieved. James WOW! Leave the base mate, that is possibly THE best SE3 base I have seen Miles too good to take away IMHO anyway. Beautiful engine. IndianaRog SE3 stay with metal base or go with walnut I thought it might stir the pot to propose putting that SE3 on a wooden base! I have not done it yet, still thinking on it. In reality I have only ONE other engine in my collection that is on it's original steel base, that being my childhood Fleischmann and I'm not about to touch that one. Otherwise each engine I have is mounted on wood or has an integrated cast iron base. Since I don't have any Meccano, losing ability to integrate it into such a setup is not applicable for me. IF I opt to put it on Walnut, I will give the red base to James should he wish to upgrade a like SE3 with a lesser base. Then I know it would be going to a good home. You can hold me to that James!! cheers guys, Roger IndianaRog Thanks Mike for SE3 dating Post '65 but before '72...good enough...Thanks! Roly Williams Re: Could use your expertise on dating a Mamod SE3 IndianaRog wrote: Hi Guys, I took a few pics of my SE3 recently acquired...as best I can figure it from reading other info on this site, the dating might be early '70's? I wanted to post pics here but can't quite figure out how to do that yet, so stuck them on my website accessible at the following link: http://www.freewebs.com/indianarog/mamodse3.htm Appreciate your thoughts. As I photographed it today it really struck me as a nicely thought out engine and anyone who knows me knows I have this thing for brass...Anyhow, it might seem criminal, but I want to remove the red base and replace with a walnut plinth I came by...I think it will make a nice presentation. If anyone can give me a quick "how to" on forum picture posting, pls. do. cheers, Roger Hi Rog, welcome, BTW. That SE3 you've got is in superb condition and, personaly, I'd agree with Spokesman and leave it as it is. However, it's not a super-rare engine and I rather like the idea of a well finished wood base. Can't you find a well used one with a rusty base to scrap? As for including photos in a post - you can't upload the photo to the forum, you still need to host the image file somewhere. You can include the image in a post by using the IMG button at the top of the text box. It has the advantage of being able to see the image in the post but you have to make sure the image is a suitable size first. It also gets messy when other's quote from your post without removing the pics. It's swings and roundabouts, really, and I usually do what you did and include a link to my web site. James Cheers mate It would be at cost of course Griffin That SE3 is amazing, even the paintwork is like a mirror IndianaRog Thanks Roly and James Hi Roly, Good to see you on this forum as well!! Thanks for the pointers on hooking photos to the forum...I guess any future ones I will do same as I did for the SE3, link it to my website to keep it clean for one and all. I had to laugh at the suggestion to find a rusty SE3 to put on wood vs. a nice one...usually I specialize in restoring crappy looking boat anchors...sort of nice to hold an engine that has never been fired for a change. Doesn't it make you wonder sometimes how one engine can look like it was stored in a wet dirt root cellar for 40 years and the next of same age cared for like the day it was made? Before I get the drill out...I will look at the SE3 a bit more "as is", maybe I will fall in love with that base (not likely, but maybe)...if I do go ahead and drill out the rivets and mount it to walnut...James the base is yours for nothing but an address. Heck, from the looks of it you deserve an "atta boy" for setting this whole dang system up. Heck, at 13 I couldn't find my butt with a flashlight and here you are hosting the fastest growing steam forum out there!!! Well, it's 7 pm here in Indiana, USA so I imagine most of you UK guys are down for the count. cheers and keep up the great forum, Roger James I would feel awful if I did that mate, truely would. I'm looking on buying a Jensen (as if I can afford one of them) andwould like to know which model is best in your opinion? If I bought one direct from Jensen I would be killed by postage, so would have to buy an imported one from an English supplier, like ForestClassics. Cheers, James James Forgot to say, thanks ever so much for the comments. It is great to see this place thriving, and especially great to see some of the biggest names in toy steam (yourself for example) coming here. Thanks ever so much mate, James Steve_S That SE3 is a superb example! How come your engines always have such a shine? I'd have to agree with the others that it'd be a pity to remove such a good base from such a good engine... but walnut is nice! SPOKESMAN Re: Thanks Mike for SE3 dating IndianaRog wrote: Post '65 but before '72...good enough...Thanks! It about the best I can achieve Rog, looking at at it more closely I would stick my neck out and say late 67. Mamodman123 I think its mid to late 60's! Certainly not 70's because of the burner handle more than anything else! It also has a one arm overfow plug. It's quite an early one! I think its one of the first riveted engine frame ones! 65-68 I think IndianaRog Again, thanks guys for the dating advice Unless more info comes up...I will assume my SE3 is a '65-'68 vintage. Having slept on it and seeing the reaction to my proposal to put it on a wood vs. current metal base, I've rethunk it. I might just MOUNT the metal to the walnut plinth keeping it intact, but improving it's appeal to me by the wood accent. How's that for a reasonable compromise that doesn't descecrate a nice piece? Rog Roly Williams Re: Again, thanks guys for the dating advice IndianaRog wrote: Unless more info comes up...I will assume my SE3 is a '65-'68 vintage. Having slept on it and seeing the reaction to my proposal to put it on a wood vs. current metal base, I've rethunk it. I might just MOUNT the metal to the walnut plinth keeping it intact, but improving it's appeal to me by the wood accent. How's that for a reasonable compromise that doesn't descecrate a nice piece? Rog Sounds good to me, Rog, but as I said before, it's your engine so don't let us stop you doing what you want. Now if it was an SE4, that would be different Manxman Perfect compromise. Easy to remove from the wood base if needed but also keeps the model the way you'd like it. And after all, having the models the way we want them, is part of what the hobby is all about. tmuir Re: Again, thanks guys for the dating advice IndianaRog wrote: Unless more info comes up...I will assume my SE3 is a '65-'68 vintage. Having slept on it and seeing the reaction to my proposal to put it on a wood vs. current metal base, I've rethunk it. I might just MOUNT the metal to the walnut plinth keeping it intact, but improving it's appeal to me by the wood accent. How's that for a reasonable compromise that doesn't descecrate a nice piece? Rog If you want a nice engine to mount on wood here is a Bowman missing its base. No one could complain then, except maybe Mooseman who has a base for this engine and is looking for something to mount on it. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/PRE-WAR-BOW...PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem Mamodman123 Re: Again, thanks guys for the dating advice IndianaRog wrote: Unless more info comes up...I will assume my SE3 is a '65-'68 vintage. Having slept on it and seeing the reaction to my proposal to put it on a wood vs. current metal base, I've rethunk it. I might just MOUNT the metal to the walnut plinth keeping it intact, but improving it's appeal to me by the wood accent. How's that for a reasonable compromise that doesn't descecrate a nice piece? Rog It would be better if you had a nut and bolt construction SE3, but mounting the SE3 on a nice wooden plinth would look great! Although it is your SE3 and probably one of the best Ive seen at that IndianaRog Tmuir, I think someone is selling your logo!! Was just cruising eBay (a religious practice of mine)...and spotted and engine I thought was strangely familiar. Some fellow in Australia is selling a gorgeous Scorpion...here is the eBay item number: 110079262921 I have never seen such an engine up close...brass and cast iron base, just the stuff I love!!! As for mounting a derelick Bowman to my wood base looking for a tenant...I have a few more of those bases the wife picked up at a boot sale...I will be mounting an M122 to one of them...BUT simply setting the Meccano base up on little brass spacers and screwing it down to the wood. Again, best of both worlds perhaps. cheers, Roger ps...been to Australia in the mid '80's...I could move there tomorrow, loved it that much. tmuir Yes saw the Scorpion engine. Its a nice example. Have a look on ebay OZ thread for what I said about it. Very little is know about Australian engines unfortunately. I have pictures of atleast 3 variations on thier verticles and aparently they made a mobile which I've never even seen. Other Australian brand is the Renown, even less known about them, I also have a sorry example of one of their verticles and just lost winning a mobile by them the other week. Didn't even know they made one until I saw it on ebay. Here is the link to the Renown mobile http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAP...sPageName=STRK:MEWA:IT&ih=007 And here is a few extra pics of the mobile http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about1910.html Here is a Renown verticle (mine) http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about1928.html Comparison to another Renown http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about1450.html And finally my Scorpion http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about912.html        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> General discussion Page 1 of 1