Archive for The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum The Original Unofficial Toy Steam Forum
Established 2006
The biggest, most popular steam forum around! Accept NO imitations!
We have a growing community of regular posting members who chat about all aspects of toy and model steam.
 


       The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Locomotives
SillyBilly

Dismantiling a cylinder

Hi,
Do you know how to remove the end caps of the mamod cylider. I want to know as I'm dismantiling some ones I have spare to compare the bores on the two, as I've heared they vary.
James

I've no idea mate. Heat up with blow torch?

MM is your man
SillyBilly

LOL! Where the hell is he? Or is it to early for him?
James

Probably gaffa taping his car together before it collapses into a pile of rust
Mamodman123

James you bad mouth the car and I run you over...simple

the caps are just a push tight fit, a little heat may help not too much or the cylinder will fall off the block

If you can avoid taking them off then do so.
James

Mamodman123 wrote:
James you bad mouth the car and I run you over...simple
the caps are just a push tight fit, a little heat may help not too much or the cylinder will fall off the block

If you can avoid taking them off then do so.


LMFAO!!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
James you bad mouth the car and I run you over...simple
the caps are just a push tight fit, a little heat may help not too much or the cylinder will fall off the block

If you can avoid taking them off then do so.


LMFAO!!


Ive done it before and i'lldo it again..Just ask LEnny....Oh wait
James

SPOKESMAN

Re: Dismantiling a cylinder

SillyBilly wrote:
Hi,
Do you know how to remove the end caps of the mamod cylider. I want to know as I'm dismantiling some ones I have spare to compare the bores on the two, as I've heared they vary.



SB - the cylinders on a Mamod are now of one piece of brass. Earlier ones were two peices, ie a brass tube and a backing/port face plate soldered to it. Only the very earliest cyclinders had end caps, such as the SE4. A Mamod cylinder is a simple peice of kit. Beware when rplacing them as cylinder and engine frame port faces varied in spacing and number (ie if the engine was reversing type or not).

Bore were generally the same, although the newer, say 1990 type on will not fit earlier 1950/60/70 type. Strokes generally varied depending on model - ie an SE3 has a much longer stroke than a TE1 or SR1. Pistons varied too from the earliest 'power piston' type with thread/twine sealing 'ring' to the plain type and the 'new' power piston with a groove milledinto the piston.

Let us know how you get on!

Mike
Chris

Think he might be talking loco ones Mike, which are a different kettle of fish.

Interesting to know they are push fit though, I just assumed they screwed in.
SPOKESMAN

Chris wrote:
Think he might be talking loco ones Mike, which are a different kettle of fish.

Interesting to know they are push fit though, I just assumed they screwed in.


Aye!!
tree ted

James wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
James you bad mouth the car and I run you over...simple
the caps are just a push tight fit, a little heat may help not too much or the cylinder will fall off the block

If you can avoid taking them off then do so.


LMFAO!!


Dont worry bout it James Gaffa tape running you over cant hurt too much, can it?

Says me whos car needs some welding doing before it goes back in for its MOT.
James

LMAO!!
Mamodman123

Chris wrote:
Think he might be talking loco ones Mike, which are a different kettle of fish.

Interesting to know they are push fit though, I just assumed they screwed in.


Yep they are a tight fit Nothing like the normal mamod ones!
Mamodman123

tree ted wrote:
James wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
James you bad mouth the car and I run you over...simple
the caps are just a push tight fit, a little heat may help not too much or the cylinder will fall off the block

If you can avoid taking them off then do so.


LMFAO!!


Dont worry bout it James Gaffa tape running you over cant hurt too much, can it?

Says me whos car needs some welding doing before it goes back in for its MOT.


Poeple in glass houses shouldn't throw stones. My car didn't need any welding for its MOT
James

Nope, only needed a bit of tape
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Nope, only needed a bit of tape


Nope, flew through fine matey
James

Blew threw? Aye, wuind must have caught the pile of dust that it is
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Blew threw? Aye, wuind must have caught the pile of dust that it is


Your pushing your luck Sonny
James

Mamodman123

James wrote:


I can't wait to see your first car, bought by yourself, then we'll have a laugh
James

Morris Minor
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Morris Minor


A skip on wheels then
steamyjim

stanley steam car is what i want!
James

No Jim, you want a slap!
tmuir

steamyjim wrote:
stanley steam car is what i want!


You sure you don't have one in your collection you have just forgotten about, you seem to have one of almost everything else.
Mamodman123

tmuir wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
stanley steam car is what i want!


You sure you don't have one in your collection you have just forgotten about, you seem to have one of almost everything else.


His dads you mean?
James

Or grandads?
steamyjim

Quote:
You sure you don't have one in your collection you have just forgotten about, you seem to have one of almost everything else.


i was thinking about getting one of those lil tiny RC ones...

at £500+ i though not!
CCairns

Dismantling a cylinder

Hi William,

Some time back I got some loco spares on ebay which included a near complete O ring cylinder upgrade kit.

Looking at IP Engineering's Refurb Kit page ( http://www.ipengineering.co.uk/page74.html), you can just read some of the instructions.

Use a small screwdriver through the collar and twist and pull to remove it from the piston rod (worked well on one example I tried but failed on another - do not have a vice set up for pulling power yet). Use a Mallet (or soft hammer) and tap piston against front cover till it pops out. Then using a suitable flat punch tap the piston against the back cover till this pops out as well. You now have a dismantled cylinder.

Here is one I produced earlier: -



And a comparision with the O ring upgrade: -



Does anyone know if these green o rings are special high heat ones or can any O ring be used. One of the O rings with these bits was perished so I only have one O ring for 2 cylinders at present.

Chris Cairns.
SillyBilly

Thanks for that Chris, it'll come in handy when I buy a refurb set.
       The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Locomotives
Page 1 of 1