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xlchainsaw

diy die casting

i found these vids on you tube. im currently giving it a go   my plan equals wheels and lots of them. other ideas???



Nick

What is your plan for melting the lead?

I have two melters from Lee:

http://www.leeprecision.com/cgi/c...3.4092=/html/catalog/melters.html

I would highly recommend one with a spout to save future headaches.

I make my own bullets and this guy included some very important tips.
xlchainsaw

actually im going to use aluminium. the molding process i really found interesting. im awaiting my molds to dry out and then ......blowlamps at the ready,forge fired up..        
Nick

How much more heat do you need for aluminum than lead?
xlchainsaw

Nick wrote:
How much more heat do you need for aluminum than lead?
lead melts at around 400c and aluminium at 600-800 c.im using a small cast iron pot in my forge. ive melted down about 150 cans so far and poured it into ingots ready for a suitable mold.
Nick

Is there anything you can use for removing impurites from aluminum? (I use Lee's beeswax for lead)

Does the paint off the cans just float to the top?

Make sure you have the mold warm before you pour it, otherwise there will be visible cracks or layers.

Also, make sure you smoke the mold like the guy showed, I just use some matches instead of a candle.

I am very interested in seeing a picture of your setup.
xlchainsaw

we are very excited also. no flux is required although some hint about it. there is a lot of scud from the cans ,so you get about 1/2 of weight of the cans as clean metal. pics will come after liz comes home (in hospital again). i wish her to view the setup first and my first mamod front wheel repo !. i had to make a pattern wheel which has taken me 3 days (and nights) i used solder to prove the pattern which i melted with a no.20 iron (20 ounce)
xlchainsaw

old mister malin must have had a real laugh at my expense.   i made two molds using 2 front te wheels. well i had two large blocks of plaster with a te wheel entombed inside. lol i had to smash the molds to retrieve my wheels.lol. i discovered the rims were undercut! only just but enough to bust everything .
tmuir

I've ready that using that low sodium salt is good for flux.
You melt the slat into ingots and then as it cools it cracks into lumps and you sprinkle this in just before pouring and it will increase your yield considerably.
I will try and find the link
tmuir

Here are a few good links to topics about flux to improve the amount of metal you can recover from the slag.

http://www.abymc.com/forum/viewtopic.php?t=31
http://backyardmetalcasting.com/f...php?t=778&highlight=salt+flux

Photos of someone melting and casting the salt flux into ingots.
http://backyardmetalcasting.com/f...amp;highlight=salt+flux+aluminium

A photo of some ones bucket furnace pouring aluminium ingots.

http://hep.ph.liv.ac.uk/~gdp/patel/rowan/18-pouring-Al-ingots.jpg

If you want to try sand casting and are struggling to get bentonite it is used by directional drilling machines as mud when boring under roads services conduits or cables and the companies usually buy it by large bags so if you see a crew working and speak nicely to them they may give you a few kilos.
I work in the telecommunications industry and have got myself a small supply from my contractors.
xlchainsaw

that would be great if i could get some sand. the guys at the shed know of some green sand deposits very close to here. i just opened my plaster mold and it looks good     it looks like my pattern wheel was ok. i hand ground it into a plaster block (half of the wheel) and added plenty of bevel to the edges ect. then i melted solder into it giving me half a wheel. i made two halfs and turned them to fit and soldered together. then i bogged up the imperfections and sanded smooth.i followed the molding vids and now to add the pouring holes ect.  
tmuir

If you were in Perth I would give you some but its a bit heavy to post.  
Good luck in finding some locally.
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