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| Les |
Fleischmann 135/2 c1963 with 2nd video.It's here despite the postal strike. 
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| IndianaRog |
Excellent Les....now WHAT is here? | ||||
| Les |
It's here. 
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| Les |
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| steamyjim |
Fleischmann 135? | ||||
| scalex |
come on Les we need a little more than that
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| IndianaRog |
Very LARGE box of Viagra?? | ||||
| Les |
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| TE1DRIVER |
ooh you tease Les!
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| Les |
No.
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| IndianaRog |
Well...it once belonged to someone named NANCE | ||||
| IndianaRog |
a Girth Fleischmann...possibly the 135 as Jim guessed! | ||||
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| IndianaRog |
Wow, that was a VERY well packed lineshaft! | ||||
| made-in-england |
is there more?! | ||||
| Les |
Yes it is.
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| Les |
It was, it came with a boxed Lineshaft, a boxed Punch and a boxed Triphammer, those last two have already found new homes.
Here is the original listing. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAP...2578&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT |
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| Les |
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| IndianaRog |
Jeez Les, one can't be found in much better condition...I think you got a very good deal considering the accessories included.
Wow!!! (better than a box of Viagra)!!! |
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| Les |
It does have some marks on the base which will not come off but it being boxed and the price I paid I am chuffed as nuts, especially as one went three days earlier on German e-bay for over £600.
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| Nick |
I'm so glad to see it arrived safely Les!
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| Les |
I too am glad but John packed it for overseas posting so I was in no doubt it would arrive safely. Thanks for passing on the link otherwise I wouldn't have seen it, and a thank you to John for being the middleman again. 
The all important burner is present.
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| Les |
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| Nick |
Les, I noticed yours has a filler plug where mine has a Fleischmann SV. | ||||
| Les |
I just looked at a picture of John's and his has the safety valve as well. |
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| Nick |
James' does too: http://toysteambible.org/Fleischmann/135-2.htm |
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| Sandman |
Aw Jeez Les, that does look the part.
What a cracker mate. |
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| Burnmafingers |
Wow, that sure is a beauty 
Have you steamed her up yet Les? |
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| johnreid |
Much better condition than mine too, so very happy to see that you finally got one, let alone at a fraction of what it is worth | ||||
| Dr. Rog |
Gob-smaked
I saw a question from a Les on the German one. This was very good value. The engine (as apposed to the whole unit) is especially good looking on this model.
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| Les |
Yes she is, I will hopefully steam her tomorrow.
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| kusuchi |
Absolutely gorgeous, Les.
Fantastic condition, complete with the elusive burner, ladder and chimney, all at a great price! So good to see the 135/2 grace the Bucket of Steam at last.
Congratulations! 
(BTW mine also has a safety valve. Why you would need two is something of a mystery.  On the website the various editions are shown in both configurations, with no correlation to age!)
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| Les |
Thank you all for your kind comments. It's the same with the box, my engine is the c1963 model but the box is pre 1963.
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| kusuchi |
Thankful indeed that Rog wasn't right about the Viagra. The women of Bournemouth would have been fleeing en masse! A box that size would have brought a large Army to attention!
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| kevininasia |
Congrats Les, glad to see you finally got one. And that one is a beauty. Complete, and in such good condition, and jeez what a great price. You must be pleased. 
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| metalhead100 |
Les,
Great engine there ! I saw John Reid's at the Temple of Steam over the summer and loved it! They sure are neat...... I want one but ya know how that goes..... I'd settle for the engine unit alone......If someone has a scattered boiler. Hope it runs! Jim |
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| calypso |
Very nice Les. Great condition too.
That original blued boiler finish looks un-marked as does the rest of the engine. Fantastic find! |
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| Wallace |
Well done Les. That's a lovely engine
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| Les |
Yes I am very pleased with it, it is a great looking engine which I am going to try and run it today.
16100 |
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| calypso |
Les, far be it for me to preach to the converted, but I thought I would mention that since you only have the one safety valve fitted, it might be an idea to check it out before you fire her up. Those dome valves have a habit of sticking shut and might need to be freed by pulling the valve up gently (I use needle-nose pliers) to ensure free movement. A drop of oil then keeps it happy. Good luck.
P.S. Looking forward to the video. |
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| Les |
Thanks for the advice and I will be checking everything before and during firing.
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| Steve_S |
She's a beauty Les! I'm certainly looking forward to the video.
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| Les |
I forgot to take a picture of these, a funnel,hopefully Fleischmann, and the tool for cleaning the burners.
And this is from the first firing where I had a large problem with it.
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| johnreid |
Please describe the problem. I am sitting on the edge of my chair waiting. | ||||
| 27ace27 |
It's tomorrow, where's the video?
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| Les |
Sorry for keeping you waiting John, as you know the flywheel didn't want to spin and you thought as did I when I tried it that it might be gummed up inside the cylinder with old oil. Well even under nearly 2 bar of steam pressure it would still not turn over at all. 
I blew out the burner and let all the steam go out the whistle, great whistle on this one, and then disconnected the rods to the engine, the piston and slide valve moved alright but the flywheel still would not. I took off the small pulley and undid all the other associated parts so as to remove the flywheel shaft this came out but not easily and one bearing came off as well. I pushed the shaft back in without the bearing and it was fine but I had to put the bearing back in and it tightened up again. On closer inspection I discovered the flywheel brackets were a slightly different height. So I loosened the lower one, used some Teflon sheet I got from John and made a couple of shims to go under the bracket and re-assembled everything. The flywheel then spun and I fired it again.
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| Les |
I had a problem, please read my previous post.
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| johnreid |
IT sounds like a fairly easy fix, but had to be discouraging at first. I assume it took off after that though,. | ||||
| Les |
The fix was very easy, just difficult at first trying to diagnose it. |
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| Les |
The video.
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| 27ace27 |
Finally! It's so quiet! how will you fix the wobbly governor les?
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| Les |
Just after I stopped videoing it came off, all it needed was screwing back on again.
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| johnreid |
IT was worth stinking up the kitchen
A great runner |
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| IndianaRog |
Runs like a V8 Les, wow what a nice one! | ||||
| xlchainsaw |
very nice les. i would love to pull the burner apart.  i havent seen one like that before. i would love to see how the vapour heads are made.
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| Sandman |
Great machine there Les.
Good to hear you got to the bottom of the stiff flywheel relatively easily. It's certainly running sweet now. Beautiful piece of kit. |
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| Burnmafingers |
That video is a joy to behold
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| Dr. Rog |
Super engine.
I can't imagine how dissapointed the original owner must have been with a siezed engine. 
Thanks for the video.
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| Les |
There was no mention of it in the description, it wasn't a hard fix so maybe they were worried about taking it apart, I know I was to begin with. |
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| Dr. Rog |
Good job you knew what you where doing
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| Les |
It was more the process of elimination really. It was lucky it was the brackets holding the flywheel, I didn't fancy taking the piston assembly apart.
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| johnreid |
Good thing it was Les because nobody ever accused me of doing that 
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| Wallace |
Well done on getting that going Les. Such a nice smooth runner too
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| Les |
Decided to run this again today to see if I can get it to run slowly.
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| johnreid |
I enjoy running mine slow, However I do not run it enough I guess, it seems I save it for special occasions. | ||||
| Les |
I had a friend come round today who hadn't seen it so it was a good excuse to run it, mind you the meths fumes were a bit much after two runs.
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| johnreid |
Two ruins probably consumed over a pint of Meths too
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| Les |
Not far off it and a lot was wasted as fumes though the vent pipe.
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| ozsteamdemon |
A very nice steam plant indeed , congrats on her aquisition and repairs there Les , well done mate 
I have often wondered what the Bore & Stroke of these engines are ? Would love to see it running a load and working hard .
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| Sandman |
You certainly managed to get her running slow and steady Les.
Well done. |
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| Dampfzauberer |
Les,
maybe it is of interest to you, so I will mention it: The little wire thing you got with the engine, that is (as you said) for cleaning the vent holes on the gasifier heads of the burner.
But maybe you also want to know it is also made for lighting the burner! Your's is missing a piece of wick on the top (where the brown residues are) It has to be the same wick as used in the burner. The idea is: you dip the wick in meths and light it. And hold it like a match to the gasifiers to light them.
See picture of mine. 
Note: the wick is the wrong way round on the holder. It has to be clamped between the angled part, so it will stick 90° off. |
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| Les |
Thanks Mirko, I have tried lighting it using the wick but it is easier using a lighter, on another note do you think the funnel is a Fleischmann one?? | ||||
| Dampfzauberer |
Yes, it is. Have a look at the inside of the funnel. There must be the fleischmann logo cast into the plastic (Bakelite) |
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| johnreid |
I never knew that about the wire tool, I dont have the tool though.
I might fashion a tool like that some day though |
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| Les |
I have just checked it and there is Fleischmann on the inside, all I need now is one of their little green watering cans.
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| Celsius 100 |
Superb engine and greatly enjoyed the videos. | ||||
| calypso |
Beautiful engine Les. I still need to find a nice one of these.
I have the smaller 125, which I love, but its big brother eludes me. |
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| Dr. Rog |
You need a little one way valve. I had some on my aquarium once, (sorry long lost). Alternatively, as check valves need a little pressure to admit air maybe just a small bung with a hole in it, like my little Mamod.
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| calypso |
I think you will find that the vent needs to work both ways.
Both the meths and the air inside the burner expand when hot. If the vent is blocked, the vaporizer will flare up and could be quite scary.
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| Les |
I shall leave it as it is, it's a lot safer that way.
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| Nick |
I know what you mean about the meths fumes out the vent pipe, check this out from 0:06-0:11 |
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| Nick |
And I just found the pic I took of it. Makes you wonder if that's why there is paint missing above my firebox opening. (This is also why I leave the door open when running, to avoid paint damage on there):
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| johnreid |
I think it was because I had overfilled my burner, but one time flames shot out of the vent tube and looked like a blow torch going, I now dilute the meths for mine. | ||||
| Dr. Rog |
Well I certainly can't argue with the evidence.
Thinking a little 21st century - cars feed their fumes back into the engine. My Volvo actualy has a filter in the engine bay that condenses vapours from the fuel tank as you re-fill it. I am aware how good this is as my mate has a '66 Mustang and it stinks of petrol. Those fumes need to go back int the flames. I suggest running a pipe back under the reservoir where the flow of air will draw it up into the flames. I am also tempted to suggest fitting a flash arrestor made out of coarse wire wool in the pipe, however I am sure someone would use fine wire wool with entertaining results. So you didn't hear it from me.
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