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The safety valve is a bit different, a cross between an early 1938 (has a deep grove but not as wide) and a 1968 short stem 1/4 " safety valve. Not sure whether to repaint the fire box - the other side is worse. There is no evidence that this one ever had a decal. I remember MM saying some did and some didn't yosa The disk crank is on my wish list. That's a nice one, and burner too. flywheel61 Flywheel's Collection It's a wonder you didn't bid on this one Yosa, it only went for GPB 37.00. I think its a steal as the last one went for GPB 29.00 and was missing the small brass pully, burner and the piston was frozen. No more pics to night. Cheers Chris yosa Re: Flywheel's Collection flywheel61 wrote: It's a wonder you didn't bid on this one Yosa, it only went for GPB 37.00. I think its a steal as the last one went for GPB 29.00 and was missing the small brass pully, burner and the piston was frozen. No more pics to night. Cheers Chris I can't believe I missed it either I think it's the one I had on watch, but work got in the way at the crucial period. I'm glad one of us got it though mate. Nice one. SPOKESMAN Some nice metalwork there Chris! Mamodman123 Some nice engines there!!!! Especially the SE2! These aren't half turning up now oldstuff Jeez, I think they're all great, Chris! SE2 looks to be near excellent. Nice score in winning the crank disk. But, my favorite has to be the Minor 2...I don't have a flat base MM2, but surely would like one! Mamodman123 oldstuff wrote: Jeez, I think they're all great, Chris! SE2 looks to be near excellent. Nice score in winning the crank disk. But, my favorite has to be the Minor 2...I don't have a flat base MM2, but surely would like one! the MM2 flatbases weren't made for that long 48-53 so are very rare oldstuff Mamodman123 wrote: the MM2 flatbases weren't made for that long 48-53 so are very rare Makes me want one even more! Mamodman123 oldstuff wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: the MM2 flatbases weren't made for that long 48-53 so are very rare Makes me want one even more! you see them from time to time. I've seen one or two in America/Canada so you never know Wallace Great collection there Chris. Love that SE2, and bought in OZ, amazing That MM1 s/v is exactly the same type as my MM2 flatbase s/v that I got last week Only the second time I have seen one Nice one mate Mamodman123 Wallace wrote: Great collection there Chris. Love that SE2, and bought in OZ, amazing That MM1 s/v is exactly the same type as my MM2 flatbase s/v that I got last week Only the second time I have seen one Nice one mate Pretty sure my safty valve is similar!, well it has the tire tread around it (as I like to call it) Sandman Mamodman123 wrote: Wallace wrote: Great collection there Chris. Love that SE2, and bought in OZ, amazing That MM1 s/v is exactly the same type as my MM2 flatbase s/v that I got last week Only the second time I have seen one Nice one mate Pretty sure my safty valve is similar!, well it has the tire tread around it (as I like to call it) Really MM The proper description is a "Knurled Finish" Now. Take 200 lines and move to the front of the class. flywheel61 Flywheels collection One of my first buys about seven years ago at an antique shop in a small town about 40km away. Still had it's burners plug, and very little use. flywheel61 Flywheels collection My mint in box MM1 with vapourizing burner all complete but the cellophane is starting to go. I've got another one on the way to use as a runner flywheel61 Flywheels collection My MM2, mint in box, vaporizing burner. Don't have a runner of this model but that's no loss. flywheel61 Flywheels collection This was in an absolutely disgusting state and had to be repainted. I know some members don't particularly like this being done but it was the only way as a lot of it was down to bare metal and almost half of the fire box & base were rusty ( I wish I'd kept a few images of it's condition when I bought it). I also had to replace the boiler strap SPOKESMAN Still a good looking machine, love them 50s chunky flywheels! flywheel61 Flywheels collection Thiis SE1 still had its box, metal funnel and three wick burner, it's not in brilliant condition but still worth keeping. Notice the difference between the brass knurled nut on this one's burner and the previous one, one is round and the other is hexagonal. I will run the previous one but not this one. There's still a fair bit of work to do on this engine as far as tidying up is concerned SPOKESMAN Let me know if you want one of these . . . flywheel61 Flywheels collection This mint in box SE1A, tablet burner, still has its original box cardboard overpacking and the accessories (burner etc) are still in the original plastic bag which is stapled to the back of the box. The Mamod esbit tablets were included, you'd never get away with that these days after 9/11. SPOKESMAN Snap! Underrated little unit! flywheel61 Flywheels collection Spokesman wrote Quote: Let me know if you want one of these . . . Far better condition than mine Mike, I'm going for an SE3 just after Christmas (not the one we discussed, this one's in the US), we' see what happens after that, thanks Cheers Chris SPOKESMAN Both have never been steamed, sad really, maybe one day! Wallace Great collection there Flywheel, looking great. Haven't seen so many minters. Mike and Flywheel, neither may have been steamed, but well worth keeping like that guys. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Don't know where this SE2 fits into the scheme of things, it's got a wire boiler strap rather than a copper or nickel plated strip. It came frro mthe same supplier as the SE1 I had to repaint and this also was in a poor condition and the base had to be redone. flywheel61 Flywheels collection This SE2 with vapourizing burner is kept as a runner and like a number of my other models (MIB's excepted) could do with a good clean. I have left the Meccanno attached as a reminder of my youth, playing with Meccano, and never owning a Mamod now I've got heaps of Mamods and no Meccano. flywheel61 Flywheels collection SE2A, mint in box - vapourizing burner, unfortunately, unlike the SE1A the accessories have been taken out of thier packing and no tablets. In the past few days I've won a anothe SE2a on ebay that I can use as a runner. flywheel61 Flywheels collection This SE3 is the early edition with the vapourizing burner. It's only been run a couple of times but some idiot has re rivited the engine frame with large rivets. Are the original kind of rivits still available so I can fix this glaring problem. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Later model SE3, mint in box, with the tablet burner and lever whistle but no sight glass. The box still has the original inner cardboard packing. It's interesting the the box is the same as that for the older SE3 anfd the image on the front didn't change. I checked in the bible and it doesn't say anyrthing about a change to an open fronted box like the later other tablet burner models. Wallace Great collection Flywheel. Well done. I'll count them all when I have finished. Re the rivets. Chances are, they will be 3.2mm ones that have been used as replacement. Seems to be standard for Mamod to use 2.4, 2.6, or 2.8mm ones. I just can't recall the size. Foresteam sells rivets, chas does too I think Might be worth finding forests rivet packs on ebay, and ask him a question. Actually, I am pretty sure in his rivet auctions he asks to email him for the size you want. Only thing is, the ones that are in it now might be larger than standard, so hole could be too big I know it won't be original, but maybe use brass nut and bolts? Brass n/b's in 3.2mm size seem easy to get. flywheel61 Flywheels collection That's all for now folks, more after Christmas. Cheers Chris tmuir So thats what my Se3 will look like once I finished restoring it. The older one with vap burner that is. I would personally just drill out those big ugly rivets and fix it back down with brass screws. Thats how my SE3 is held together no rivets only screws. flywheel61 Flywheels collection wallace wrote Quote: Foresteam sells rivets, chas does too I think Might be worth finding forests rivet packs on ebay, and ask him a question. Actually, I am pretty sure in his rivet auctions he asks to email him for the size you want. Only thing is, the ones that are in it now might be larger than standard, so hole could be too big I know it won't be original, but maybe use brass nut and bolts? Brass n/b's in 3.2mm size seem easy to get. The original rivets on some of the older models look a lot different, the only have a tiny outer diameter. I'll check with Phil and Chas to see what they have. Failing that (I take your point about the holes possibly being bigger) I think the Meccano screws would be appropriate - as you said not original but better than what's there now. Cheers Chris Wallace Well a great collection mate. I think Meccano bolts will fit that perfectly. The rivets you mention are "eyelets". They kinda work using a "punch" system. You put the eyelet in, then place it over a small "mount". Then you use a special punch from the top, hitting it with a hammer, which flares it out, creating the outer diameter bit. I don't know of anyone that has them so small. Closest I have seen, is eyelets for clothing. If you have the shop called Spotlight up there, try them as I have seen them in there, but not real small, but worth a look. Good luck flywheel61 Flywheels collection Wallace wrote Quote: Closest I have seen, is eyelets for clothing. If you have the shop called Spotlight up there, try them as I have seen them in there, but not real small, but worth a look. Good luck Ta mate, they're just down the road, I'll try them after Christmas & see what they've got. What were you doing in Spotlight anyway??? . Yer not into needle point I hope. Cheers Chris Mamodman123 Your first SE3 thats been re-riveted would have had the eyelets yes. I don't think anyone has found them not really sure where you'd get them either If you order some from chas he will send you very small pop rivets which will look a bit neater than the ones you have now! You have a very nice collection! Can't want to see more flywheel61 Flywheels collection tmuir wrote I Quote: would personally just drill out those big ugly rivets and fix it back down with brass screws. Thats how my SE3 is held together no rivets only screws. Thanks, I wonder why the original owner just didn't put the screws back in? I'll take one rivet out and see how big the hole is, I've got a feeling that screws would look better anyway. Are your screws the standard Meccano ones or dome headed? Cheers Chris Mamodman123 Re: Flywheels collection flywheel61 wrote: tmuir wrote I Quote: would personally just drill out those big ugly rivets and fix it back down with brass screws. Thats how my SE3 is held together no rivets only screws. Thanks, I wonder why the original owner just didn't put the screws back in? I'll take one rivet out and see how big the hole is, I've got a feeling that screws would look better anyway. Are your screws the standard Meccano ones or dome headed? Cheers Chris Brass dome....its not correct for the engine I don't think as they have their award on the box...whats the address on the box? tmuir As you can see from the photo below mine are not brass and they have dome heads and also have a locking washer underneath. I don't know if this is original or not, I'm sure someone here will let us know. The ruler is there to give you an idea of size. I've yet to clean them up yet, will do that after painting the base. Mamodman123 Some were brass some were not Griffin That's a real nice collection you have there Flywheel, all top notch engines. Looking forward to the rest of the pics. Mamodman123 Griffin wrote: That's a real nice collection you have there Flywheel, all top notch engines. Looking forward to the rest of the pics. So am I Griffin, they look quite tasty I hope you have a few mobiles to balance out the collection though. They are very nice Steely Wow there's some really nice engines there flywheel. flywheel61 Fly wheels collection MM wrote Quote: I hope you have a few mobiles to balance out the collection though. They are very nice Yes, there are a few, 1 x TE1 (not nut & bolt), 1x TE1A, 1x roller & 1 x fire engine plus 6 x Mamod steam trains plus waggons etc. I'll probably get rid of the fire engine as I really want to concentrate on the stationaries and can't afford both. I know that some of you have suggested that a collection should be balanced, a mix between stationary & mobile, but it comes down to a personal choice and how far the finances stretch. I think, because of the lower cost, you get more 'bang for your bucks' with stationaries. Thanks for your help re the rivets. I have some of the screws, dome head (right down to the plating), that are the same as the ones in tmuirs post and also some flat headed ones. Several other of my Mamod models also have screws instead of rivets, both of the dome head and flat head kind so I'll see what Chas or Phil have to offer and also try the screws to see what looks best. There appears to be so many variations possibly due, in part, to post war material shortages. Early in the thread I mentioned about the safety valve on my MM1 disc crank (sorry I didn't respond earlier - too busy down-loading pics). I was refering to a narrow deep groove in it like the 1938 safety valve not the knurling. It's the same size as the standard 1/4" safety valve but with a short spindle. I got some pics of Mamod safety valves over the years from wallace that Mike put up on the forum and this one is not shown as one of those. Cheers Chris flywheel61 Flywheels collection MM wrote Quote: Brass dome....its not correct for the engine I don't think as they have their award on the box...whats the address on the box? _________________ Sorry, MM don't know if you were refering to me or tmuir. In my case the box says Thorns Works, Brierley Hill, and yes, three award stickers (in a triangle) on the top left corner of the front of the box. But its also reasonable to bear in mind what I said, in the previous post, about post war material shortages Cheers Chris Wallace Re: Flywheels collection flywheel61 wrote: Wallace wrote Quote: Closest I have seen, is eyelets for clothing. If you have the shop called Spotlight up there, try them as I have seen them in there, but not real small, but worth a look. Good luck Ta mate, they're just down the road, I'll try them after Christmas & see what they've got. What were you doing in Spotlight anyway??? . Yer not into needle point I hope. Cheers Chris Nah, not into that thing (I'd keep it secret if I were ) Been in there a few times with/for the missus. Just happened to see the eyelets by chance. Although I do admit, I went in on purpose once, to get candle wick. Just asked them, and they had it. Not quite big enough for a wick burner, you need to use about 5 pieces, but better than nothing Tmuir, I too have engines with dome heads bolts that aren't brass, and they have the locking washer. Very variable, and doesn't seem to be an indication of date, whether it's brass or not. I say this, as A sE2 I had, used brass bolts, but had a normal evap burner. Very regrettebly I sold it, to make way for another SE2 The SE2 I got now, has the brass meths burner, so an older engine, but has silver bolts. Steve_S That's a terrific collection Chris, some very nice engines there. flywheel61 Flywheels Collection Wallace wrote Quote: Nah, not into that thing (I'd keep it secret if I were ) Yeah, I guessed that you were there for the bubble & strife. Hey, you found the candle wick stuff anyway. I shouldn't tease, Re the screw, as I suggested to MM, the first 15 years after WW2 there were a lot of material shortages and Malins probably used whatever they could to make a quid. Cheers Chris Wallace Just on the candle wick subject. Was up at the inlaws last night, and I ntocied some wick on the ground outside. It was from one of the big citronella outdoor candles. Well it fits a wick burner perfectly. Might try BBQ's galore, or similar to see if they sell that wick SPOKESMAN Re: Flywheels Collection flywheel61 wrote: Wallace wrote Quote: Nah, not into that thing (I'd keep it secret if I were ) Yeah, I guessed that you were there for the bubble & strife. Hey, you found the candle wick stuff anyway. I shouldn't tease, Re the screw, as I suggested to MM, the first 15 years after WW2 there were a lot of material shortages and Malins probably used whatever they could to make a quid. Cheers Chris Trouble and strife or bread knife - wife? sparky nice engines there mate flywheel61 Flywheels collection Spokesman wrote Quote: Trouble and strife or bread knife - wife? Yes. Mike, the usual OZ derivation of another Cockeny rhyming slang saying. Sorry didn't answer earlier, was 110km away at my son's for Christmas in the state capital, he has the 'net but I thought it'd be a bit rude to check on things at a family gathering. Cheers Chris SPOKESMAN Re: Flywheels collection flywheel61 wrote: Spokesman wrote Quote: Trouble and strife or bread knife - wife? Yes. Mike, the usual OZ derivation of another Cockeny rhyming slang saying. Sorry didn't answer earlier, was 110km away at my son's for Christmas in the state capital, he has the 'net but I thought it'd be a bit rude to check on things at a family gathering. Cheers Chris Thats OK. James not sure if i have already said this, but, bloody nice engines mate!! flywheel61 Flywheels collection Thanks to everyone who's viewed my collection so far and for the positive feedback. It's raining for a change here, Hooray! As I prefer to use natural light for my pics (no horrible hot spots from the flash), pics of the other half of the collection will have to wait until the weather clears up. We actually need 6-8 inches of continuous rain to break the drought but no floods would be nice. Cheers Chris SPOKESMAN Look forward to see the rest Chris! flywheel61 Flywheels collection Near mint, only fired twice, Mamod Meccano. I know the gears are wrong but they look good any way. SPOKESMAN Thats really nice. Circa 1965 - the picture in the background is the Malins factory at Brierley Hill. flywheel61 Flywheels collection ME1 , mint in box, still has all the packing material. Tablet burner from around 1977. I think either MM or Spokesman said that, with out a boat they look out of place & they're right. SPOKESMAN Still a nice piece in or out! My ME1 in my Hobbies Arrow - still under construction! flywheel61 Flywheels collection Early line shaft, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection Early grinder & press, MIB SPOKESMAN You have some very nice kit there Chris - great to see. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Thanks, Milke, I always wondered where the pic on the MC1 box was taken. The ME1 looks good in the Hobbies Arrow, I think a project for the future for me. Cheers Chris flywheel61 Flywheels collection Early power hammer & polisher, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection SP1, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection SP2, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection SP3, near MIB - fired once. flywheel61 Flywheels collection SP5, MIB. flywheel61 Flywheels collection WS1, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection Newer type line shaft, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection Newer type hammer & grinder, MIB Wallace Just Great Chris An excellent collection there mate. As mentioned earlier, I'm going to count them all at the end. Love the MEC1. And seeing that SP5 makes me wish I still had mine flywheel61 Flywheels collection Power press & polisher, both boxed - the polisher is mint but unfortunately there is some rust/peeling paint on the power press. flywheel61 Flywheels collection SR1A tablet burner, owned from mint with box, fired once. flywheel61 Flywheels collection TE1, metho burner, near mint inbox. Unfortunately the canopy was so badly rusted it had to be repainted & redecaled. flywheel61 Flywheels collection TE1A tablet burner, only fired a few times but more paint off it. Also suffered from rusting to the canopy and had to be repainted/decalled. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Lumber waggon, MIB flywheel61 Flywheels collection Open waggon - mint, no box flywheel61 Flywheels collection Water cart, MIB. flywheel61 Flywheels collection RS1 set, fired twice, unfortunately the second time the engine came of the track & bent the top front of the cab. The funnel's also gone walk about, . MTA I think you have the earlier version of the water cart, as mine has the hubcaps that are used on the mobiles Although it shows the version with the black caps on the box flywheel61 Flywheels collection SL2, near mint - boxed with mint RW6 & mint RW6 kit waggon, haven't seen another high sided timber waggon elsewhere. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Your right MTA, no hub caps, had to check the real thing, some times the pics not the best due to the poor light, thanks. Cheers Chris flywheel61 Flywheels collection SL3 near mint (no box), RW5 mint boxed coach & copy MSS RW5 mint boxed coach. flywheel61 Flyweheels collection SL1K, mint in box with RW1 (mint)& RW2 (mint) flywheel61 Flywheels collection SL4, Princess of Wales - boxed, fired twice (not by me!!) with RW5 mint in box cach & MSS RW5 copy mint inbox. I know there was only 250 of these made but they don't appear to be numbered on the engine or the box and there's no certification in the box. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Golden Jubilee loco, mint in box, number 0022 with RW2 (MIB) & RW3 MTA An SL1K! Quite rare, even moreso with a box! Darren has one tmuir I never realised the lumber was just foam. No wonder it is usually missing. I can see why you are now looking to buy models to run, I couldn't stand having that many engines and not being able to fire them, especially the locos. Nice collection though. Only two in my collection are boxed. The Luton PW201 I just bought and my Mamod Sr1 which had only been fired twice when I got it but has now been fired5 or 6 times. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Near mint mamod oil can. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Some of my Mamodalia, including two hand written invoices from Mamod's Thorn Works in 1977. flywheel61 Flywheels collection Thanks MTA, I didn't realize it was uncommon. I bought it locally for AUD 140.00 (GPB 60.00), really cheap by OZ prices, as there were a few, easily replaced parts missing. Cheers Chris flywheel61 Flywheels collection tmuir wrote I Quote: can see why you are now looking to buy models to run, I couldn't stand having that many engines and not being able to fire them, especially the locos. Thanks tmuir, as I've pointed out recently I originally started out as a collector and resold a number of engines (in order to reach the collector's holy grail of MIB's ) I should have kept. Now, like most of the rest of the members I've well & truely caught the bug. Cheers Chris flywheel61 Flywheels collection Bowmas, complete with wooden box. Don't know what model & I'm frightened to clean it as last time I tried car polish I nealy took all of the decal off.        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Collections and pics Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2