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calypso

Going loco .....

I never thought I would be posting in  the Locomotives section.

So far, I have been a very much a stationary engine man, but I have always fancied having a live steam train.

I saw some gauge 1 engines for sale, but they are much too large and would need to be out in the garden.

To cut a long story short, I am now looking at HO live steam, and in particular, a little shunter made by Lutz Heilscher.

I have lots of old HO track (Marklin) so she'll have plenty of room to run.

Anyone else running HO live steam?

This is the one I'm thinking of getting. Not cheap, but a lovely little engine.

Roly Williams

Mmm, nice.

Is it electricly heated like the Hornby ones or is it real fire?
DavidB

live steam gauge?

So far most of the HO and smaller gauge live steam locomotives I've seen haven't been really good runners(compared to o gauge), that is until Hornby came up with their present offerings, from what I have heard, on balance more praise than dissent. Just a bit larger, in o gauge is a surprising selection of good running locomotives. These can be used indoor/outdoor.  A real good runner and they don't break the bank is the Bowman 300 tank locomotive which can run on tight 31"curves/standard lionel track which is cheap, and can be in rusty condition(cheaper)...it doesn't matter. o gauge Hornby carriages are same/very close in scale, most lionel freight cars are in same/close enough to look right scale. Mamod locomotives are great runners, but with a different burner....getting scale rolling stock...is easier to scratch build than find. If you have room for 72" curves then locomotives with tenders such as Bowman 234, Bassett Lowke's, and many others will run fine. Mamods have such a following that there are many modification parts available to convert them into...what lights your fire...double Fairlies, Mallards, Pit Loco's, Mallets, Garrett's and Meyers(there are drop in parts to assist a scratch build /BIY project)
Just something to consider, hope it helps
Cheers
DavidB
Bowman 300

Mamod Tank type

Mamod Garrett type

Mamod Mallett type

Mamod Shea type

Mamod MSR Baldwin type

The mamod list goes on forever!...it seems
calypso

Roly Williams wrote:
Mmm, nice.

Is it electrically heated like the Hornby ones or is it real fire?


It has a tiny meths burner Roly. Completely self-contained so no electrics involved.
bessytractor

I play with OO scale live steam.  Short answer is if you have little patience don't bother as they need a lot of work!
calypso

bessytractor wrote:
I play with OO scale live steam.  Short answer is if you have little patience don't bother as they need a lot of work!


Yes, I can imagine they could be very fiddly because of their small size.

Is that what you are referring to?
bessytractor

no they break very easily  
alan2525

Having worked on 16mm / O gauge loco's it always seems to be a battle for space, however large the loco is you always want to cram a bit more in. I imagine in OO gauge it would be an absolute nightmare!
bessytractor

its almost impossible Alan

You set some OO gauge slip eccentrics and keep your state of mind, I'm mad already so I got away with it!
Annie

Re: live steam gauge?

DavidB wrote:
So far most of the HO and smaller gauge live steam locomotives I've seen haven't been really good runners(compared to o gauge), that is until Hornby came up with their present offerings, from what I have heard, on balance more praise than dissent. Just a bit larger, in o gauge is a surprising selection of good running locomotives. These can be used indoor/outdoor.  A real good runner and they don't break the bank is the Bowman 300 tank locomotive which can run on tight 31"curves/standard lionel track which is cheap, and can be in rusty condition(cheaper)...it doesn't matter. o gauge Hornby carriages are same/very close in scale, most lionel freight cars are in same/close enough to look right scale. Mamod locomotives are great runners, but with a different burner....getting scale rolling stock...is easier to scratch build than find. If you have room for 72" curves then locomotives with tenders such as Bowman 234, Bassett Lowke's, and many others will run fine. Mamods have such a following that there are many modification parts available to convert them into...what lights your fire...double Fairlies, Mallards, Pit Loco's, Mallets, Garrett's and Meyers(there are drop in parts to assist a scratch build /BIY project)
Just something to consider, hope it helps
Cheers
DavidB
Bowman 300

Mamod Tank type

Mamod Garrett type

Mamod Mallett type

Mamod Shea type

Mamod MSR Baldwin type

The mamod list goes on forever!...it seems


Wow!  I am stunned out of my mind over some of those Mamodifications  

The second from the top 2-6-4 tank engine reminds me a lot of a an old but unfortunately incomplete live steamer homebulid I have that looks like it used Mamod or similar parts to make it go.
johnreid


   

That is a beauty.
I thought it over too, even considered the Hornby, but decided that with the tight turning radius of the Mamod, O ( 32mm ) is the gauge for me now
dampfmaschinenjoe 1967

Hi there ,
watch out the website of Lutz Hielscher where he has a video section and there he shows the HO gauge locos running : They are nice and meth fired but for me they are too small! The smallest locos I prefer are the gauge 1 engines or bigger ones. Take a look on them here: http://www.hielscher-dampfmodelle.de

cheers Joe
calypso

dampfmaschinenjoe 1967 wrote:
Hi there ,
watch out the website of Lutz Hielscher where he has a video section and there he shows the HO gauge locos running. Take a look on them here: http://www.hielscher-dampfmodelle.de

cheers Joe


Thanks Joe. If you see my original post, You'll see that these small locos are the ones I've been looking at.

I ordered the little docks shunter and am waiting for it to arrive.

I am also a watch freak and do small repairs, so I am used to working on small mechanisms.

I'll post some pictures when I receive the engine.
MooseMan

I am sorely tempted by one of those....I love the idea of being able to run a live steam loco on my kitchen table, and the Hornby sets just don't do it for me....
calypso

Me too Moose. The Hornby system is fine when it works, but a little too big and too complex for my liking.

I too find the simple water and meths setup very attractive.

I'll let you know how I get on with my shunter when it arrives.  
steamyjim

These are quite a bit of fun.

It's made by Lutz Heisler aswell. The boiler is made of some form of glass so you can see the water boiling inside.

After a bit of running in it will do a few laps of the circular track I have layed out here.

They are available here...

http://www.forest-classics.co.uk/Ministeam%20minatures.htm

This video is REALY old and complete with squeky voice Jim!!



And some pictures...





Graham-Jilly

nice little engine you have there jim
Les

I like that, is it running on standard HO/OO track??
steamyjim

Les wrote:
I like that, is it running on standard HO/OO track??


Yup, just bog standard Hornby track

Quote:
nice little engine you have there jim    


Thanks Graham!
dampfmaschinenjoe 1967

It is the easiest form of live steam rail vehicle Lutz Hielscher offers for people who want to run live steam on HO gauge rails!

cheers Joe

PS : The same "thing" is available in gauge 1 too
alan2525

These little live steam loco's look brilliant!

Just found some videos of them on you tube on the Lutz Hielscher channel.

johnreid

I like that, but my eyes are never going to be good enough to mess with one that small. I hope you post pictures and videos once get one going.
MooseMan

Just noticed Forest sell them......oh dear.....I must resist!
Titan

alan2525 wrote:
These little live steam loco's look brilliant!

Just found some videos of them on you tube on the Lutz Hielscher channel.



My goodness! He even does radio controlled steam in HO!!!!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOBn0wWPMwI&NR=1

That is awesome!
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