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| colinjamesporter |
GWR Mogo wagon modelSlight misjudgement in scale i think !!!!!!!!!!!
Only joking it is the start of my 7.25 inch gauge class 20 project. I have started with my riding truck. The loco will be powered by four 24volt motors and should be able to pull 28 adults with ease hopefully. Below is a photo of the loco as preserved which is what the loco will depict. 
Many thanks colin porter |
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| tmuir |
I just went to my local miniature railway today for the first time in 14 or 15 years with my son and he loved it.
They run 7 1/4 inch gauge trains there too. Will look forward to your updates. Is this a kit build or a scratch build loco? |
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| colinjamesporter |
The whole project is going to be scratchbuilt. The riding truck underframe is from a kit with a home built body. The loco will have bought motors gears and the wheels have been bought as it was cheaper than buying the raw materials . I am currnetly doing the cad design for all the loco parts and hopefull should get the files for the bogies sent off for lazer cutting. I am part of a local club which owns a 7.25 inch gauge railway in the back garden of an old peoples home.
Many thanks colin porter |
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| tmuir |
Big project then, will watch this space with interest.
I'm hoping within the next year or so to start to build a 45mm live steam loco from plans and castings but need to improve my metal working skills first. 
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| Reid |
I will enjoy and learn from watching your progress reports here, Colin.
That's great for all involved at your group's railway place. The elderly must adore the train activities. Is a bit of humour OK? I don't mean to be in bad taste, but I am. --- Old People's Home overlooking the garden railway: Fred blows steam, crotchety: "My train is late, positively late, again." Attendant: "And you're without a ticket. Polite words aren't needed, Mr. Darby. A bowel movement is a bowel movement, though you can call it as you wish." 
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| Andy |
class 20 are great engine, they have quite a few at Barrow Hill. at the Barrow Hill Diesel gala selabrating class 20, they had 20 class 20 and a coupla of other class.
Class 20 do have a really nice sound, and it sound even better when you stick your head out of the cab while it going along. At the santa steam gala at barrow hill they had a class 20, witch i maniged to get into the cab off and have loads of rides. (i know i am ment to be a die hard steam fans) but it was cold. |
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| Lewis |
whistling 20
there are quite a few at barrow hill but most are not in service and are awaiting restoration the 20 you are basing yours on was the first of its class D8000 and currently based at barrow hill roundhouse 
heres another they have at barrow hill i love that green 
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| Andy |
they do have quite a few running lewis, the diesel gala was a crakcing gala, not as good as the steam mind | ||||||
| Lewis |
they arent that many running only about 4 the rest are all in the sidings rusting |
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| colinjamesporter |
I like the look of them with the discs and saw D8000 while it was still at york. Will try and keep ou all updated.
cheers colin |
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| Lewis |
yeh shes usualy at york 
thanks 
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| colinjamesporter |
I went down to the south devon railway in october to measure up the real thing  I used 20110 as she is near to D8000. Some minor differences with bogies and bits but same overall 
cheers colin |
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| Andy |
the white disk ust to tell the signalman what type of train it was. if all 4 disk are up it mean it a royal train. | ||||||
| Andy |
i should think they have a few that hvae been loaned out, and they are restoring other diesels |
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| Lewis |
bet that took a while
andy i dont think that a class 20 would have ever been used to haul the royal train
its now done by a class 67 royal diamond |
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| bessytractor |
are those compass house wheels? | ||||||
| colinjamesporter |
Nope they are made by a company called the engineers emporium
cheers colin |
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| colinjamesporter |
Just heard my frames are on their way from the lazer cutters later this week for the riding truck. Just need to design some axelboxes and springs now.
Cheers colin |
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| MTA |
Ahh, good company. Just wish they would update their website more often!!! |
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| colinjamesporter |
I totally agree they should put an area where you can work out the postage when ordering
cheers colin |
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| colinjamesporter |
A copy of the original drawing done for the 12 ton van. This will be used as my riding truck for driving the loco. Can finally start when my frames arrive for assembly later this week from the lazer cutters. Images from here there is loads mode variants of wagons along with locos and coaches. http://www.greatwestern.org.uk/loco_draw.htm Use the menu on the left to find the different drawing pages also handy for keen model makers. cheers colin |
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| Rob |
we have a class 20 here on the great central, and on our layout, although it doesnt run aswel as it could. looks like a great project colin, good luck. | ||||||
| bessytractor |
ah yes they have a pretty good reputation. I built a BR 20 ton brake van in 5" gauge using Compass House wheels, their service was a bit naff tbh. |
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| colinjamesporter |
My dealings with compass house seems ok. I ordered a motor and gears from them for this project and it was here two days later.
cheers colin |
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| colinjamesporter |
Laser cut wagon frame parts arrived.
A photo of all the parts together so far. 
I can start to assemble the riding truck now which will be exactley like this
Many thanks colin porter |
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| Andy |
Never said they would pull a royal train, but that what 4 white disk ment. The disk were put in diffrent configeration for difrent train. So if it was a stoping freight they would be put in up in a certain way. if it was an express pasenger then they would be lpaced difrently. I just rember that 4 disk mean it a royal train. they were so that the signalman new what type of train it was |
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| colinjamesporter |
Thats true and behind each white disk was a light for night running thats what the hole that makes them look abit like eyes is for.
cheers colin |
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| bessytractor |
mine took a week until I phoned up. All I got was "its still on the shop floor I haven't sent it yet" that was enough for me. |
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| Les |
At least they were honest.
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| bessytractor |
oh yeah of course but he was so blunt about it I was a little taken aback. |
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| colinjamesporter |
The guy from compass house seems ok. They never seem to attend big model engineering exhibitions anymore though which is a shame. Anyway back on topic as I said earlier in the thread the frames are here from the laser cutting people. The will be rivitied together and brazed for extra strengh. Then i need to make some bearing blocks for the bearings to be carried for the wheels to run, some leaf springs which from photos and trhe drawings have a very large curve in them . Then I need to make come couplings and buffers before I start on the body framing. After the body framing I will put the wood into the body work and then use an aluminium roof so it holds my weight and does not add extra weight toi the riding truck.
Many thanks colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
have you considered a wooden roof? My brake vans roof is made of thin ply and it supports my ample weight well.
You can get axleboxes from Doug Hewson can't you? |
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| colinjamesporter |
To be honest I hadn't thought of a wooden ply roof it would be easier and lighter to make, thanks for the idea. I have not heard of Doug Hewson do you know if he has a website?
many thanks colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
http://www.the-hewsons.demon.co.uk/ have a look through the sub menus. Obviously its not cheap BUT if its a scale model your after then this is the stuff to buy. Make sure the ply is laminated, so about three layers of wood. This means less chance of distortion. |
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| colinjamesporter |
Many thanks for the help will email him.
best wishes colin porter |
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| colinjamesporter |
Started assembling the underframe today. I braized the corner joints ready to rivit into position and soldered the buffer beams to shape then cleaned them
best wishes colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
pictures please
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| colinjamesporter |
Above is the corner joiners these will be rivited inside the bufferbeam and solebar to hold it together 
The bufferbeams which have been soldered and cleaned up 
Show the test fitting of the bufferbeam castings these will be fitted last I just wanted to see how they looked Many thanks colin porter |
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| Nick |
Looking good. | ||||||
| Andy |
looks good coming on nicly | ||||||
| Les |
Have you a picture of what the finished item will look like? | ||||||
| colinjamesporter |
Here is a photo of the real thing as I plan to finish it. Lovely BR Bauxite colour to match the era of the loco 
many thanks for the kind comments will keep ytou all updated as I go |
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| Les |
Thankyou, look forward to seeing it finished.
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| colinjamesporter |
Many thanks for the kind comments
Will keep everyone updated as bits happen. Many thanks colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
this is looking good colin, very good indeed. If you keep this up it will be a model worth seeing. Its certainly looking a bit more scale than my brake van
and I implore you to visit the Strawberry line with your 20 and van. They have scale freight trains and they are building a hump marshalling yard, you'd love it. Oh and they have huge amounts of diesels.......and a 20.......in RF grey
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| colinjamesporter |
Sounds really good. Will look more into that when i get the locomotvie complete. No more done today. I attended a local model railway exhibition and purchased a JH Russell book on great western wagons and their loads as their is a number of phortos of the type of wagon i am building.
Many thanks colin porter |
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| colinjamesporter |
I just looked at the starwberry line site and unfortunatly it seems to be 5 inch gauge  Howevery I am looking to take the locos to AGMs with the 7.25 inch gauge society in future years.
Many thanks colin porter |
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| Rob |
its a bit far, but we have a 7 1/4" guage track in leicester, abbey park near where STIA is held. | ||||||
| colinjamesporter |
Sounds good might look in to taking it on tour.
Many thanks colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
OOOOPPPPSSSSS
sorry colin I failed to remember your 20 is 7 1/4" ah well bring it down the Cockcrow we have all the stuff Strawberry have
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| colinjamesporter |
Thats ok easy mistake to make will try and have a play with the chassis the next few days.
many thanks colin porter |
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| colinjamesporter |
Been out playing in the workshop final assembly will take place in I put the wagons wheels on the piece of track I have to work on only to find the floor is on a slope. I have had to improvise by rasing one end with wood. Will post photos later
many thanks colin porter |
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| bessytractor |
good good looking forward to it! |