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IP Lubricator assembly

I thought seeing as I'm going to get a regulator for 'Victor', I might as well get a lubricator as well. So I would like to know how they fit in. Does the 'Tee piece' from the lubricator slot into the reverser valve and then the steam pipe from the new regulator slot into the back of it? If so it doesn't sound as difficult as first thought! If anyone has some scans of instructions or pictures of it all assembled, I'd be most grateful if you could post them up here
Mamodman123

That's pretty much how it is MTA. You have to solder the steam pipe into the lubricator. Then the lubricator slots into the block at the front.

I'm looking for pictures but PB is running slow ATM!
steamyjim

Is this the lubricator on the smokebox or in the cab like Tonys and mine??
Mamodman123



Isn't that the roundhouse SJ?
Chris

Anyone know if pps do the lubricators as they don't list them on their site.

Also are pps upgraded pistons the same as ip upgraded pistons?
Mamodman123

Chris wrote:
Anyone know if pps do the lubricators as they don't list them on their site.

Also are pps upgraded pistons the same as ip upgraded pistons?


Yes, but PPS's gauge one cylinders are the same as the 0 gauge but with 2 more gaskets. While I.P do a proper sort of larger port faces.

Not sure whether PPS sell lubricators
steamyjim

I got a cab one of PPS that wasnt by Roundhouse...

Email him
tmuir

MTA if you dont mind soldering a coller onto some copper pipe get yourself a Roundhouse lubricator to fit instead of the IP one.
It looks better and works better especially if you are going to get a regulator.

Also I have gotten two IP lubricators and both of them were bent up incorrectly so I had to straighten and rebend them to fit them which caused kinks in the pipe.
Graham-Jilly

MTA here is a scan of the instructions
MTA

Thanks for your help guys. Especially GJ who scanned in the instructions. It does not say though it needs to be soldered MM
tree ted

MTA wrote:
Thanks for your help guys. Especially GJ who scanned in the instructions. It does not say though it needs to be soldered MM



The t on mine fitted perfectly.......... In the bin.

The lubricator drum bit went to James.

And the roundhouse 1 i fitted works much better.

Go with the flow MTA and fit the roundhoude type 1. Those who have fitted them im sure will agree they are a much better idea.
MTA

tree ted wrote:
MTA wrote:
Thanks for your help guys. Especially GJ who scanned in the instructions. It does not say though it needs to be soldered MM



The t on mine fitted perfectly.......... In the bin.

The lubricator drum bit went to James.

And the roundhouse 1 i fitted works much better.

Go with the flow MTA and fit the roundhoude type 1. Those who have fitted them im sure will agree they are a much better idea.


How much is the Roundhouse Lubricator and how would you fit it? Is it in the same manner albeit from the regulator steam pipe?
Chris

Can you give a precise list of what to buy to fit a roundhouse one. I am a bit thick with that sort of thing.

Unions is it?

What gets soldered to what and how?



Best get my brain in gear, got a meeting with my bosses bosses boss tomorrow!
tree ted

MTA wrote:
tree ted wrote:
MTA wrote:
Thanks for your help guys. Especially GJ who scanned in the instructions. It does not say though it needs to be soldered MM



The t on mine fitted perfectly.......... In the bin.

The lubricator drum bit went to James.

And the roundhouse 1 i fitted works much better.

Go with the flow MTA and fit the roundhoude type 1. Those who have fitted them im sure will agree they are a much better idea.


How much is the Roundhouse Lubricator and how would you fit it? Is it in the same manner albeit from the regulator steam pipe?



Think mine was £11.75 from roundhouse it comes with all the connections you need to fit it to the ip/pps regulator. Im sure if you ring roundhouse they will help you. They are a fantastic company, never known anyone as helpfull or interested in their job before.


http://www.roundhouse-eng.com/

Have a look at their web site but be warned it can prove expensive
tree ted

Chris wrote:
Can you give a precise list of what to buy to fit a roundhouse one. I am a bit thick with that sort of thing.

Unions is it?

What gets soldered to what and how?



Best get my brain in gear, got a meeting with my bosses bosses boss tomorrow!



Chris

its realy simple. 1 end just screws onto the ip/pps type regulator and the union that roundhouse supply with the lubricator just needs fitting in to the steam pipe that comes with the regulator.

If you need anymore help just ask i will be glad to help as much as i can.

Steve
SillyBilly

PPS sell the roundhouse lubricators for £10.
Chris

And there are no other parts to buy (well except a regulator and some solder)?
tmuir

Chris wrote:
Can you give a precise list of what to buy to fit a roundhouse one. I am a bit thick with that sort of thing.

Unions is it?

What gets soldered to what and how?



Best get my brain in gear, got a meeting with my bosses bosses boss tomorrow!


If you are going to use an IP regulator aswell, just buy the regulator anf the roundhouse lubricator and you will have everything you need.

The just need to cut the pipe from the pipe that comes with the IP regulator a bit shorter and solder the union that is supplied with the IP regulator to it and thats it.

If you are not installing an IP regulator you need extra pipes and union nuts. If you are not installing the regulator let me kow and I will put up photos of the other bits you need.
Graham-Jilly

You can also check out my posting on Marvin to see how Ive fitted the IP regulator and Roundhouse Lube
http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about4138.html


EDIT
here are some pictures to show how I routed the pipes to connect the IP regulator and Roundhouse Lube


Cheers G
MTA

It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before
Mamodman123

MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Get a meths burner first MTA You'll need it with that!
Chris

MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Lesson in DIY. Things are always simple when being described by someone else! Things are rarely simple when you try and do it yourself!

MTA

Mamodman123 wrote:
MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Get a meths burner first MTA You'll need it with that!


I'm going to place bulk orders with PPS and IP, as PPS charge cheaper prices than IP for some items.

Chris, lesson learnt
Mamodman123

MTA wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Get a meths burner first MTA You'll need it with that!


I'm going to place bulk orders with PPS and IP, as PPS charge cheaper prices than IP for some items.

Chris, lesson learnt


I'd just order all from PPS out of the principle that you'll receive it some time this year
MTA

Mamodman123 wrote:
MTA wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Get a meths burner first MTA You'll need it with that!


I'm going to place bulk orders with PPS and IP, as PPS charge cheaper prices than IP for some items.

Chris, lesson learnt


I'd just order all from PPS out of the principle that you'll receive it some time this year


As others have said, it is easier to fit the Roundhouse Lubricator to the IP Regulator than the PPS regulator. Plus there isn't a picture of the PPS regulator on their site...
Mamodman123

Looking at the pictures above, do they give you anything to put in the hole?
Darren

Graham-Jilly wrote:


Just a thought, it may be an idea to route some of the regulator to forward/reverse control pipe, in such a way as to expose it to the burner flame, to effectivley superheat it (i.e SE3 stylie).

Owww I like the idea of the roundhouse lubricator, so I too will be 'disposing' of my IP lubricator, in favour of the regulator/roundhouse lubricator config.

Darren.
tmuir

Darren wrote:


Owww I like the idea of the roundhouse lubricator, so I too will be 'disposing' of my IP lubricator, in favour of the regulator/roundhouse lubricator config.

Darren.


Yes I have fitted one to mine aswell and they work a treat, only downside is you use more oil.
MTA

From GJ's pics, am I right in saying the regulator is held on by an Allan grub screw?
tmuir

MTA wrote:
From GJ's pics, am I right in saying the regulator is held on by an Allan grub screw?


I'm assuming you mean the regulator lever and it certainly looks like it so it would not be too hard to fit a RC lever to that and make it RC controlled
MTA

tmuir wrote:
MTA wrote:
From GJ's pics, am I right in saying the regulator is held on by an Allan grub screw?


I'm assuming you mean the regulator lever and it certainly looks like it so it would not be too hard to fit a RC lever to that and make it RC controlled


Yep, I did mean the handle. Maybe I should say that next time
SillyBilly

MTA wrote:
From GJ's pics, am I right in saying the regulator is held on by an Allan grub screw?

Yes it is, and they best alan key you can get for it is one supplied with a accucraft loco!
Graham-Jilly

Chris wrote:
MTA wrote:
It amazes me at how easy it all seems, that was mainly what was holding me back. I thought it was all really difficult to plumb these upgrades in, now though Victor will run even better than before


Lesson in DIY. Things are always simple when being described by someone else! Things are rarely simple when you try and do it yourself!


yep have to agree there chris
Graham-Jilly

MTA the handle is held on with a grub screw
MTA

Graham-Jilly wrote:
MTA the handle is held on with a grub screw


Thanks GJ My mod will be OK then to fit
Graham-Jilly

Darren the way ive routed the pipe it gets plenty of heat from the burner. it is heated directly from the burner and works very well
Graham-Jilly

MTA the original pipe supplied with the regulator hat to be cut so that the threades bush could be soldered on and I also had to cut 1/4 of an inch off the front end of the pipe where it fitted into the f/r regulator at the front of the engine.
hope that makes sense 4.40am here not quite awake yet
G
MTA

Graham-Jilly wrote:
MTA the original pipe supplied with the regulator hat to be cut so that the threades bush could be soldered on and I also had to cut 1/4 of an inch off the front end of the pipe where it fitted into the f/r regulator at the front of the engine.
hope that makes sense 4.40am here not quite awake yet
G


That makes perfect sense! Our Australian members must love early starts and late nights! I think Tony was on here once at 1 am Oz time and had to wake up at 6am Oz time the same day
Graham-Jilly

Let us know how you go with the mods MTA
G
Mamodman123

MTA wrote:
Graham-Jilly wrote:
MTA the original pipe supplied with the regulator hat to be cut so that the threades bush could be soldered on and I also had to cut 1/4 of an inch off the front end of the pipe where it fitted into the f/r regulator at the front of the engine.
hope that makes sense 4.40am here not quite awake yet
G


That makes perfect sense! Our Australian members must love early starts and late nights! I think Tony was on here once at 1 am Oz time and had to wake up at 6am Oz time the same day


Tony is a machine! he never seems to sleep

and Wallace is the exact opposite
MTA

Graham-Jilly wrote:
Let us know how you go with the mods MTA
G


Will do!
tmuir

Mamodman123 wrote:


Tony is a machine! he never seems to sleep

and Wallace is the exact opposite




I have a two year old that I have to change his nappy at midnight or he wont make it through the night so no point going to be earlier than that and I start work in the city at 7:30am so I'm up at 6:30am every day.
Weekends are different I'm usually up until 1 or 2am and sleep in as long as I'm aloud.
But I every now and then do night work so whilst waiting for things to happen log on at work so it looks like I'm always on.
Mamodman123

tmuir wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:


Tony is a machine! he never seems to sleep

and Wallace is the exact opposite




I have a two year old that I have to change his nappy at midnight or he wont make it through the night so no point going to be earlier than that and I start work in the city at 7:30am so I'm up at 6:30am every day.
Weekends are different I'm usually up until 1 or 2am and sleep in as long as I'm aloud.
But I every now and then do night work so whilst waiting for things to happen log on at work so it looks like I'm always on.


hmmm I have another theory....007
James

MTA wrote:
Graham-Jilly wrote:
MTA the original pipe supplied with the regulator hat to be cut so that the threades bush could be soldered on and I also had to cut 1/4 of an inch off the front end of the pipe where it fitted into the f/r regulator at the front of the engine.
hope that makes sense 4.40am here not quite awake yet
G


That makes perfect sense! Our Australian members must love early starts and late nights! I think Tony was on here once at 1 am Oz time and had to wake up at 6am Oz time the same day


My old man does that every day
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