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steamyman

make a Wilesco dome whistle fit on a Jensen75

can it be possible i've got the whistle stuffed in a drawer-doing nothing-I'd like to put the tooter to some use.
Cranko

I would think not easily. Wilesco is metric and jensen from memory is 7/32 imperial
rangerssteamtoys

you could find a bolt that is the smae size as a jensen whistle and drill a hoel through it and tap it to fit wilesco and presto. I have done it with my Indx model 200 since I had a spare wilesco whistle
Cranko

Nothing is impossible
steamyman

rangerssteamtoys wrote:
you could find a bolt that is the smae size as a jensen whistle and drill a hoel through it and tap it to fit wilesco and presto. I have done it with my Indx model 200 since I had a spare wilesco whistle


Ranger,

please chk your pm.
rangerssteamtoys

Check yours
rangerssteamtoys

Well, I made a little adapter for him so he could make the wilesco whistle fit on a jensen. Will put up pic tomorrow.
tmuir

Good one Range.
rangerssteamtoys

Heres some pics of it.









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IndianaRog

Clever work their Ranger. Did you drill then tap the metric Wilesco threads??

Were you able to find a bolt that simply threaded into the Jensen whistle hole??

Just curious how you did it?

Roger
rangerssteamtoys

I'll get some pictures of what I used to make it. The process is realy simple if you have the right tools. Until then I used a brass hose connector, (forgot what its called) and my dads tap and dies set. Then I cut a the long piece off the hose connector and the hole was just the right size to tape for a wilesco whistle. To make it fit on the jensen I found a bolt that fit in the boiler and matched a die that fits and with alot of fuss trying to get it strait about 30 minutes later it was done. Took about an hour to do the whole process.
James

Ranger, I think all the threads are different for each style of whistle
rangerssteamtoys

James wrote:
Ranger, I think all the threads are different for each style of whistle


Hey Hey Hey, Dont go ruining all this good fun. That whistle was a dome whistle at one time, only thing is everytime I made it whistle it burnt my fingers because the steam went 360 degrees around the whistle. The threads should be the same on most of the whistles. Since he ahs a dome whistle it should be ok, I hope
James

Sorry mate!
rangerssteamtoys

Heres a video explaining what I did to make the adapter

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8xhFjCf2ugM
IndianaRog

Very clear Ranger...same principle would apply to any engine, whistle combo if you have access to the taps and dies.

Good work!
Rog
Cranko

Have you retaped the whistle hole in the top of the boiler
rangerssteamtoys

No, I tapped the adapter to fit the jensen on bottom and wilesco on top
Cranko

That is a 7/32 model engineers thread is it not? How many TPI
steamyman

that's extremely interesting vid there ranger.

please chk your pm.

oldstuff

Jeez, well done Ranger, great vid. I like that kind of engineering, way to go man!

If you ever figure out how to make your own steam valves or whistles,
I'd like to hear about it!
steamyman

oldstuff wrote:

If you ever figure out how to make your own steam valves or whistles,
I'd like to hear about it!


so would I.
rangerssteamtoys

Steam valves......Hmmmmmm well I have tryed in th past but its worth another try
oldstuff

rangerssteamtoys wrote:
Steam valves......Hmmmmmm well I have tryed in th past but its worth another try


Me too...pretty frustrating...I never solved it.
James

You mean a regulator?
mc_mc

How do you use those taps and dies? Just clamp the piece in a vice and then forcefully screw it on some how?

It's not something that I've ever seen done.
Roly Williams

mc_mc wrote:
How do you use those taps and dies? Just clamp the piece in a vice and then forcefully screw it on some how?

It's not something that I've ever seen done.


Basically, that's it, but you have to be a bit more carefull than that. The main precaution is that, for every turn clockwise, you should back up half a turn. Otherwise, the thread clogs up with swarf in a couple of turns. If your tapping steel then it should be lubricated. You should also make sure the tool is perfectly upright at the start - you can't correct it once it's started!. The only other thing to watch is that the hole or rod is the correct size to start with.

Honest - it's much simpler than it sounds once you've seen somebody else do it and you've had a go yourself.
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