Making my D22 exhaust to chimney

James · Making my D22 exhaust to chimney

Dad just bought me some plastic piping home from work, and I've just fitted it to my D22. I'm just going to drill a hole in the bit that the chimney sits on and then I'll pipe it through and try it. I might make a video!

Mister Occlusion

Cool. It might be messy, though

I stopped using the factory configured wafty stack on mine because I always ended up with a pile of water and oil on the base, leaking into the firebox, running onto the table.... Of course that little drip bucket of theirs is next to useless anyway. I'm sure you'll do it proper on yours

Thinking of doing up my J75 similar to one that Rog did up. Unfortunately I thus far cannot find the proper size copper pipe to sleeve the stack with.

Andy

sound like a plan to me james. i think wilesco should alreay have the exaust. i know they do on mobile but they also should on statics

James

It's alrate Mr O, steam engines and mess are all part of the parcel

steamyjim

Reid

Yes, I want to see video of the process and results.

I'll be endeavoring to do the same trick to the Wilesco D455.

I know this sounds to be impossible (flue would put water and oil into the fire) but I have a plan....

and it just might possibly work out. I'm not baffled, but the engine may be...

James--post us pictures and video as you go along?

Cranko

Lets see the pics james

toxx

... oboyoboy! Lookin' forward to the video, Jim! I'm gonna try me luck with it, too!

I was thinking of an evaporator like Mr O's, leading the oil-free steam into the D455's chimney. Hope the Esbit doesn't really explode, should water drop onto it.

Reid

Where do we see MisterOcclusion's evaporator? Link?

btw, Mr. O, are you or were you ever a dentist?

See, I have this sick toot...tooth

johnreid

Reid

I figure he's a dentist and that once upon a time he missed her mal-occlusion.

Let's grind on the chap some more, nice chuffer that he is.

James

Oops, I'll post vid + pics later

I have a plan for exhausting a verticle. I'm doing it on my home build.

Get the exhaust pipe, take it inside the firebox, and feed it up the flue!!

Reid

James

Here are the results:

I'll take a pic of the pipe itself tonight.

toxx

... good job, Jim!

Works perfectly!

James

Cheers mate!

I have a video aswell

MooseMan

Nice job mate!

But ferchrissakes give your boiler a wipe....what do you run that bugger on, pink diesel??

James

Naaa, like 20 year old meths we found in the shed at me brother's old house

johnreid

It works like a charm there James, good job.

James

Cheers John!

Atticman

[quote="James"]Here are the results:

I'll take a pic of the pipe itself tonight.

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Proof that James is a Coronation street fan

Is this well known among forum members

IndianaRog

Nice job James...it seems to work as desired!!

IndianaRog

Mister Occlusion

Thanks Rog. They must have been out of that size, as the only copper I could find either was way too small, or was big enough that it only went an inch or 2 up the bottom of the chimney before binding on it. At first I wondered if you had just waterproofed the stock chimney with silicone on its entire length, but I see now that you did not. I must try a different megalomart. I must get funny looks when I bring in bits of steam engine to try fitting items from the plumbing aisle onto .

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Heh.. Holiday inn express. I like that

No, not a dentist. Just ganked the name from a friend's short story. He figured the name sounded dark, shadowy, and mysterious.
It was only long afterwards that the dental aspect came to light.

You can just call me Mark if you like

I'm not going to clutter James' post with pictures, but here are 2 links to my stacks

http://s194.photobucket.com/album...isterOcclusion/Steam%20Condenser/

And Mk-II

http://s194.photobucket.com/album...cclusion/Steam%20Condenser/Mk-II/

The first one has a line at the bottom for drainage. This isn't necessary, really, and ends up getting clogged with oil anyway (I didn't use an oil separator on the line back then).
Second one is taller and holds enough condensate for 2 or 3 boilers worth of running on the Jensen 25. The inlet is high up in the stack so that it does not get flooded.

Only downside is that it muffles the exhaust note, and even produces a slight burbling sound.

Ranger made a horizontal one out of an old boiler, I believe, and claims it doesn't gurgle.

...Where is Ranger anyway? I don't think Reid has met our resident whiz kid and original Mod Scientist.

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James... The CBC runs coronation st here. Maybe, since yer such a fan

you can tell me just WTF it's about?

As far as I can tell, it's a bunch of people with thick accents yelling at each other for half an hour

Nice job on the exhaust stack, by the way

James

Cheers mate!

I don't watch Coronation Street really, me mother does, and she were in the kitchen trying to cook when I were gassing the place out with meths

I know it's in Manchester

When me mum and dad are watching telly and it's something I don't like, I just sit and polish some brass... stove, coal scuttle, clean me watches, engines, lamps etc etc

So I always listen out for the "Ow do me ewd fettler" type of language

Hey, this thread is about piping engines up to exhaust to the chimney, so post up about your #75! I'm going to do it to mine next

Atticman

Sorry.........couldnt resist,

Thats a serious amount of steam there- Fred'd be proud o ya lad ehhhh

James

Oi oi what's to appologise about?

It's all good fun!!

Mister Occlusion

Will do when I get around to getting it done. Before tackling the 75 again I have to finish the super secret project first, and then arse about with the generators a bit over the weekend.

Still have to test run the 45 too, so I can give the seller some feedback...

johnreid

So which is the bests Marks Mark one or Marks Mark two or other words Marks Mark Mark or Marks Mark Mark Mark

Reid

Good show James

(and I don't mean Cornonation Street)!

Looking forward to your video too!

Cheers, guy!
(oops! Some American-speak snuck in there)

Andy

looks good james

James

LOL thanks!

I never thought it would generate this much interest! !

Atticman

James

Just funny you said that!!

I found this Lincoln Longwool Shepherd SONG:

Chorus (after each verse):
Yan, tan, tethera, tethera, pethera, pimp.
Yon owd yowe's far-welted, and this yowe's got a limp
Sethera, methera, hovera, and covera up to dik,
Aye, we can deal wi' 'em all, and wheer's me crook and stick?
I count 'em up to figgits, and figgits have a notch,
There's more to being a shepherd than being on watch;
There's swedes to chop and lambing time and snow upon the rick,
Sethera, methera, hovera, and covera up to dik.

From Caistor down to Spilsby from Sleaford up to Brigg,
There's Lincoln sheep all on the chalk, all hung wi' wool and big.
And I, here in Langton wi' this same old flock.,
Just as me grandad did afore they meddled with the clock.

We've bred our tups and gimmers for the wool and length and girth,
And sheep have lambed, have gone away all o'er all the earth.
They're bred in foreign flocks to give the wool its length and crimp,
Yan, tan, tethera, pethera, pimp.

They're like a lot of bairns, they are, like children of me own,
They fondle round about owd Shep afore they're strong and grown;
But they gets independent-like, before you know, they've gone,
But yet again, next lambing time we'll 'a' more to carry on.

Yan, tan, tethera, tethera, pethera, pimp,
Fifteen notches up to now and one yowe with a limp.
You reckons I should go away, you know I'll never go,
For lambing time's on top of us and it'll surely snow.

Well, one day I'll leave me yowes, I'll leave me yowes for good,
And then you'll know what breeding is in flocks and human blood;
For our Tom's come out o' t' army, his face as red as brick,
Sethera, methera, hovera, and covera up to dik.

Now lambing time come reg'lar-like, just as it's always been,
And shepherds have to winter 'em and tent 'em till they're weaned
My fambly had it 'fore I came, they'll have it when I sleep,
So we can count our lambing times as I am countin sheep

Atticman

James

Wow!!

The 1st bit of Lincolnshire folk music I've ever heard (apart from the Lincolnshire Poacher), so I'll have to buy the record and put it in a video with me Lincoln Longwools!!

them lyrics are just what I've always said!

"We've bred our tups and gimmers for the wool and length and girth,
And sheep have lambed, have gone away all o'er all the earth.
They're bred in foreign flocks to give the wool its length and crimp,
Yan, tan, tethera, pethera, pimp."

If I ever thought a song were amazing, this is it!! Times by 10!!

Ummm slightly off topic!

Atticman

Never mind, need an interpreter now

James

Ahh! Can tell you're fairly new to the forum, the older members have had to put up with sheep talk for so long they are practically shepherds -minus the sheep

Yan, Tan, Tethera, Pethera, Pimp, Sethera, Levera, Hovera, Dovera, Dick etc etc is the old Lincolnshire way of counting sheep.

Tup- male sheep with knackers
Wether - male sheep with no knackers
Gimmer - Fermale sheep that hasn't had a lamb
Yow - Female that has had a lamb

Lincoln Longwools were sent to all around the world and bred with native sheep there to give them better wool. Lincoln wool is the best wool you can get... they are the biggest of all Longwool sheep aswell!

Anyways now I've bored you to death I'm off to watch a program... about Trains

Mister Occlusion

Sandman

Jimbo. Look what I found.

Ode To Lincoln Jimmy

Me name is Lincoln Jimmy
And I like lots of sheep
But I really don’t like buying them
Cos the prices are too steep.

I show them in the summer
While I drink pints of lager
So when I lead them round the ring,
I sometimes have to stagger.

I drive a great big tractor
And bale up lots of hay
All this to help my father
For very little pay

Then I have my hobby
Collecting all things steam
I want to have an SE4,
And then a Stuart beam.

I really like the lasses
With feelings not too deep
I just can’t get too close to them
Cos I prefer my sheep.

I go to school and though I fight
I don’t do any harm
I played a little rugby
Until I broke me arm

I always try to do my best
With a modicum of decorum
After all at 13 years
I started the steam forum.

So, looking at me old gold watch
I see its time for bed
I know if I can’t fall asleep
I can count real sheep instead.

James

Holy crap!!

That is pure gold Sandy!!

Really well done!

bessytractor

what grades did you get in English Sandy? That was very quick off the mark.

Mister Occlusion

Didn't know we had a master poet in the house

James

Aye! Best on forum at poems

toxx

... aye, Sandy! I like that poem!

Graham-Jilly

good one sandy wel done

Reid

Wow, Sandy, that's really good! You are a wit and a master of meter. Great humour deftly done turns me on.

Some months ago whilst in an English Restoration Era mode
I discovered in my mind what must be the world's oldest Sheep Joke set to meter:
_______________

(A Waggish Verse of 1686 discovered by the Author)

The Shepherd's Best

He shewed but one of his white Flock;
More pure, its wool, than the Parson's Frock
Of black--who blush'd Fiery red,
For this is what the Shepherd said:

'Fain I am to marry her.
And you, Sir...do you
Marry Ewes?'

James

LOL!!

I'd love a rate quiet life in the middle of nowhere in the Lincolnshire Wolds with a flock of about 250 Lincoln Longwools. That would be me dream! And to have the house powered with a steam engine driving a dynamo!

Reid

Since you are a pure minded lad I don't know whether you should see the rest of the poem, of which that part is but a fragment.

Did you ever read of Lord Dorset and the stunts he pulled?
Those Restoration Era guys were mad for practical jokes.

Dorset had a valet named Robert Gould.
Gould learned to read and write by Dorset's mentorings.
Gould became a great poet and playwright of his day.

So I pretend to hook up with Gould as a collaborator in telling out
Dorset's revenge upon the dour Parson.

Reid

Of the Restoration Era
From the Two Aspects
Of Prose and Poesy

Aspect No.1
by Mr. Gould

So it was, that our
Lord Dorset was travelling
with a small party including myself,
Mr. Welch, and with several other
Poets of no notice worth to name,

and along with us was the Vicar B - - -

We were then passing through
that dismal place, Parson Drove,
where was Encountered
a surely halfe-witted Youth
driving a sheep Flock in our way.

And, by the Commotions of the sheep,
entailing the same within our Party,
we were delayed for some minutes.

In my Lordship's buttering Manner,
which, bye the bye, is not
always of Good Intent,
he secretely induced the Bucolic
by a coin and by Authority. I saw
a whispering of seeming-exact
Instruction wedg'd tight
into a herder's ear.

Some moments later,
the Innocent, bringing forth

a single Lambe, he

did approach the Vicar B - - -

and he did make
a very Pretty Scene
for near all who witnessed.

After the Ruse—was

out we laughed—all
except for the Vicar, he was the Butt—
for the lad had applied to him
with this profess'd Wish—
to become married to the Lambe.

And so it was, says I,

Rob't Gould

_____________________

Aspect No.2
by Mr. Welch

"The Shepherd's Best"

He shewed but one of his white Flock,
More pure, its wool, than the Parson's Frock
Of black, who blush'd Fiery red
—For this is what the Shepherd said—

"Fain I am to marry her.
And you, Sir—do you
Marry Ewes?"

_____________________
_____________________

And so it was, that worthy Joke
Created by our brightest best,
Our Wag, The Lord of Dorset.

R.G.
R.W.
_____________________

James

Very good Reid!!

Reid

Thanks James. It's a work in progress, always getting a retouch when it turns up for re-thinking.

I love those guys.

Imagine, an illiterate teenager learning to read and write, and in the space of just a few years, rising to rub elbows with England's literary elite.

Amazing, that Robert Gould.

James

Aye! Do you like sheep then??

Reid

James

Naa naa naa sheep are good

Good poems them!

Are there any sheep around where you live?

Mister Occlusion

There must be an obligatory pun in here about Reid being very well read....

johnreid

It has been said that this section might be renamed from Technical to Poets Corner

James

toxx

From time to time I meet a sheep that has been to Sheep's University. Goes by the name of 'Leg O' Lamb', done with fine herbs, heavy on the rosemary. Hint o' garlic, served with mashed potatoes, string beans and, sometimes, mint jelly.

James

LOL!!

When i were a lad I used to have this fluffy sheep, and me grandad used to sing this song about mint sauce. I were like :O You ain't gonna eat it are you?

toxx

... nothing like it, Jim! Wash down with a pint (or ten! Aber kein Autofahren!) o' bitter or good Austrian wine. Ohmegosh, me's a gettin' hungry ...

James

LOL!!

When I went to Germany I went to this vineyard, and got some of their wine. Bloody hell!! The day I came back it was roasting hot here, and we were making hay! So I jumped on the Massey 35 (now in Bulgaria

) and I were turning it, got off when I'd finished and had a rate good glass of this German wine! Bloody good it were anall!!

I'd rather have a pint (or 10) of Guinness

Mister Occlusion

My mum used to have a lamb when she was younger. When they got out of hobby farming (they raised mink too) it was sold to someone. She was told it had gone to a nice farm somewhere to live out its life in the carefree manner of a much loved pet (which it was).

It was years later that she learned her dad had sold it to someone else in the neighborhood who would have had it for dinner. ...

Same as with her rabbits that were sold to the dutch couple down the street..

Grandad was a bit of a callous old bugger, I understand. I never knew him well myself.

Actually took one of their dogs out back and put a bullet in its head because it barked too much. I think she was told that it ran away, or was given away, or some such lie that we tell to children...

James

Shit the bed!

Not a nice bloke then?

there is a bloke around here that sets his dogs on cats and lets them rip the cat to shreds while he watches. We are all after him, and although he is alright with dad, dad said if he caught him doing it, especially to one of our cats, he would have him good and proper

Mister Occlusion

Not necessarily cruel, but not the most sensitive person in the world either. Product of that generation, I suppose.

Rose to the position of Roadmaster with the CPR. Not entirely sure what that entails, but to hear the talk he must have been like the Don of the rail yard.

Only had 1 arm too. Lost the other at the shoulder under a bogey he had slipped under early in his career. Still worked for a living and supported a large family. Got to respect that. I knew a person who played up some injured tendons in his hand (walked around with a limp wrist and an electrostim device on it) to spend much of his life on permanent disability.

Interesting story. His family is of German descent, quite a number of generations removed, though.

Still, it didn't stop one neighborhood xenophobic busybody from demanding of my grandmother why he wasn't fighting the nazi's.

Well, aside from the railway being an essential industry from which they didn't draft people away, how was he going to hold a rifle with 1 arm?

Actually he could and did hunt. I have his old Model 99 Savage, and a short barrel single shot Remington rolling block in 7mm Mauser that he used also. Light rifles with relatively gentle rounds. Swing it to the shoulder and get a shot off within a few seconds. I suspect reloading the single shot rifle gave him more grief than bagging Bambi did.

But he and grandma were both gone before I was 6. My dad's mother had died in the 50's. His dad I actually remember, but since he only spoke ukranian, I never really knew him either.

Always felt that I missed out on something important in life, there, for not having grandparents (beyond material things

).

James

Wow! One arm? And he still worked? Yeah that is very respectable!!

Mister Occlusion

Think he was also missing the tips of two fingers too... accident with a saw or something. Used to do a good bit of woodworking and lapidary, at least in later years..

Tough old bugger for sure

James

Jesus Christ!

What a hard man

toxx

... my great-uncle made it back from Stalingrad. Shot, and missing pieces here and there. Set up his own shop and business in the 50ies and 60ies. Passed away before I could really get to know him.

James

Stalingrad??

Do you know any more??

toxx

James

Wow!

He were a Nazi then? MG42 were one hell of a gun! There were one for sale at my local antiques place for £1000.

I'd loved to have spoken to him! He sounds like one hell of a bloke!

johnreid

Not all on a Disability pension are lazy, some of us just arent able to put in a full days work.
Life used to be a lot tougher in the olden days, people were rougher and they did not live to be as old as today.

James

Aye I know John! The ones that are really disabled deserve every penny!! If they can't work then so be it!

It's the ones that pretend to be disabled that wind me up, because they are too bone idle to work

Mister Occlusion

My dad sometimes speaks of a fellow pilot he used to work with in the 70's. Guy flew BF-110 patrols over the meditaranian. Got shot down and shot up pretty bad, as I understand it.

Dad's also got a story about how he flew these two old pilots to one of the airfields north of town for an airshow, back in the 70's (chopper pilot, he was). He didn't think much of it at the time, but now he regrets that he never got a photograph with them. Even the resident shutterbug at the company back then didn't get any pictures.

Who did he ferry? Couple blokes named Adolf Galland and Douglas Bader

He does remember Bader shouting out, as Adolf was about to get into the ship "Adolf! Be careful with these guys: they aren't as good as We were!"

... I wish he'd write down some things. He's not interested, though. More history to be lost...

Mister Occlusion

John: I know. But trust me when I say this guy was a slacker and a scammer. His mum even helped/encouraged him. He was my boss at one point at my last job WHILE he was on permanent disability. He got paid in cash I'm sure. (or comp would have been on his ass in a hurry)

One day he had a "falling out" with his partner and left abrutply. His final instructions to me? "Mark, if anyone calls here asking for me, you've never heard of me, and I've never worked here, got it?"

Comp was on to him, I figure. (no duh)

Since then he has worked other cash only jobs. At one point his mum was asking to trade us these store coupons he was getting paid in for cash ...

Guy would mow the lawn with two hands in the back yard and with one arm in a sling in the front.

I don't begrudge the needy. He wasn't needy; he was wanty.

toxx

johnreid

Many people do not understand that when your Country goes to war that you have little choice as to whether or not you end up inn the Army.

James

Aye but loads of people like bummed the Fuhrer. One woman even ate the gravel that he had stood on

johnreid

There were Brits and Americans that liked Hitler too, one can not lump everybody into a stereotype.
One might not agree with the Government, but when your country is at war you have little choice. Plus it doesnt often matter if they are wrong or right, people are naturally patriotic to their country when it comes to War Time.
I do not think that most average soldiers on either side had much to say about what was right or wrong.

Sandman

Sorry guys.

Don't want to rain on anyones parade but,

James

Ahh it's alrate Sandy. We gone from Chimneys to sheep to war. All the 3 things I love learning about

James

Aye John I know exactly what you mean!

Everyone in Germany had to have a picture of the Fuhrer and a copy of Mein Kampf, or they could get turned in to the Gestapo

It's good we don't have to live through anything like that now! And I hold no resentment to the Germans or owt like that.

I just think that we should learn about it and hear the stories of people that were there. They won't be here forever and then their stories will be forever untold...

Plus, "those who forget history are deemed to repeat it"

toxx

... right on, Jim!

We got carried away ...

It's interesting to watch how we got from sheep to recipes of leg o' lamb to Adolf.

Reid

James

Wow!

That's remarkable!

Is it a Hitler Youth dagger?

Reid

James, it's a common SA or Brownshirts' dagger.

The scabbard ball tip is dented flat from where hit hit the bathroom floor.

Paul must have forgotten the knife entirely---or he would have had me or dad retrieve it.

Poor Fern. Her husband died on the same day that Hitler's death was being confirmed on the radio by her cousin!
More coincidence, her first cousin was a then-famous USA national radio broadcaster named Drew Pearson.

One that day of May 6th, '45, Paul was in France. He did not know of his father's death, not even in July, when he wrote a happy note to his parents,

"Dear Mom and Dad! I'm coming home! I'll be there before the end of August and it will be so great to see you both..."

Funny, all he had to see then was a mother, and he showed her some war souvenirs, in which, pretty sure, she had less than zero interest.

---
PS: I'm so lucky. I never knew Person (my first cousin twice removed) nor my grandfather, P.B. (a physician).
But a search a few months ago found this recording of Pearson's broadcast,
as Fern -could- have heard it at seven PM, five hours after her PB's death...
but I doubt she was thinking to turn on the radio

http://www.archive.org/details/WWII_News_19450506_Drew_Pearson

(due to the time zones, Pearson, from San Francisco, would have pre-recorded his broacast in the afternoon hours, for 7PM replay,
commencing in the Eastern states. So while he was speaking, PB had probably just then died.
It's an amazing broadcast in itself, never mind the familial coincidences.

James

Wow that's amazing!

How did he get that dagger then?

Do you have pics of any other war things he brought back?

I'm fascinated here

Reid

Reid

johnreid

Theres a Chimney thread? Where?
Real interesting bit of history Reid, it is odd how things happen.

James

LOL

Oh well

That is extremely interesting!

I'd love to see the maps if you could photograph them!

A paratrooper in 1945? Jeez

Reid

There are two folded maps. I presume they were rubber-banded to the sheathed dagger when it was jammed into the vermiculite in 1945.

Images 2 and 4 are of the larger map (roadmap of Europe)
Images 1 and 3 are of the smaller map, which is of a portion of France.

Lord knows, I knew that attic well, having scoured it for keepsakes when we moved from 1034 Almeria.

The access was from Fern's closet ceiling; this is not a "proper" walk-in attic; it's a crawl space.
Fern stashed light and small items like 30's hats, around the access opening.

The knife, though, had been shoved into the granulated insulation,
a couple of feet away. It was never in sight until the plaster came down.

Lucky to have this stuff with its added history, so to speak.

toxx

... a presentation or ceremonial dagger - is it? The map is very cool. I know we're completely off topic here - I have a British Wilkinson bayonett from 1904, as long as a short sword would be, a permanent blackend German K98 bayo and a soviet sniper's bayo from 1966. All under lock and key, of course: Kids in the house. And: A big 7,62 Moisin Nagant rifle, 1907.
Off topic, I know ... sorry.

James

No need to be bothered Tom! Off topic is alreet!

I want an M1 Garand!

Really really good to see them Reid! Thanks for taking the pics!

Reid

Hi Tom! James, time for bed! Your thread is dead. An' oim a poet, knowit.

http://arms2armor.com/Knives/nazisad1.htm
Paul brought home an "SA" dagger

PS: that fifth photo is of the ball-tip of the scabbard.
The dent is recent (2004). That's when it hit the floor.

toxx

... ever fired one, Jim? My old Nagant on the wall is over a 100 years old now. Fired it last in 1995, 200 metres standing and lying tummy down. Score 110 out of 200.
Wow! Time really flies!

Reid

Pictures please, says reid.

(thanks Tom)

James

Naaa mate I ain't

toxx