Mamodman123
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Mamods round 'New' solid fuel tabletsThey probably aren't new, but what are peoples opinion on them?
I used loads at STIA and I thought they were particularly bad. Considerably worse than the older ones. They are harder to light, and they just don't last long enough. Even less than the older ones.
They do burn well though, I had my Wilesco roller fired on just the one  Neither do they fit in burners that well, slide about too much in the older Mamod ones 
Make the square again? 
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Les
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I have tried them and like you I dislike them, but I am lucky as only three of my engines run on solid fuel. I prefer to use meths over pellets. Mind you to get them to light easier I have put a dab of meths onto them. 
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MTA
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Personally, like the two of you, I am not a fan of the current Mamod fuel tablets.
They are small, slide around in the tray and I think they should revert to square tablets.
I tend to use MSS tablets in my TE1A (if I have run out of meths) as they fill up the tray and are a really good fit!
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Lewis
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I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light
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Mamodman123
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| Lewis wrote: | I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light |
They are less messy, that's true, but I get really crap runs out of them.
Although they are too powerful for the Wilesco D101, as the water level dropped much much quicker while the burner was still fully burning.
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Lewis
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light |
They are less messy, that's true, but I get really crap runs out of them.
Although they are too powerful for the Wilesco D101, as the water level dropped much much quicker while the burner was still fully burning. |
aye they dont last long enough cold water to boiler point tkaes up about half the tablet thats why i wack some fresh ones in the burner just when the water is starting to boil
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Mamodman123
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| Lewis wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light |
They are less messy, that's true, but I get really crap runs out of them.
Although they are too powerful for the Wilesco D101, as the water level dropped much much quicker while the burner was still fully burning. |
aye they dont last long enough cold water to boiler point tkaes up about half the tablet thats why i wack some fresh ones in the burner just when the water is starting to boil |
So does SJ  while everything is on fire
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Lewis
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light |
They are less messy, that's true, but I get really crap runs out of them.
Although they are too powerful for the Wilesco D101, as the water level dropped much much quicker while the burner was still fully burning. |
aye they dont last long enough cold water to boiler point tkaes up about half the tablet thats why i wack some fresh ones in the burner just when the water is starting to boil |
So does SJ while everything is on fire |
im carefull though
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Les
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| Lewis wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Lewis wrote: | I use them during most of my runnings the newer tablets and i dont mind them and i prefer them over the other solid fuel makes as they dont leave much mess only some soot
the main problem with them is that they stink awlfull and as mm said are very hard to light |
They are less messy, that's true, but I get really crap runs out of them.
Although they are too powerful for the Wilesco D101, as the water level dropped much much quicker while the burner was still fully burning. |
aye they dont last long enough cold water to boiler point tkaes up about half the tablet thats why i wack some fresh ones in the burner just when the water is starting to boil |
So does SJ while everything is on fire |
im carefull though |
Famous last words.
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Mister Occlusion
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Do they explode at least?
Not a proper solid fuel pellet if it doesn't explode...
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Mamodman123
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| Mister Occlusion wrote: | Do they explode at least?
Not a proper solid fuel pellet if it doesn't explode... |
No strangely enough they are more waxy so they probably repel the water and moisture better?
Unless anyone has had them explode?
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johnreid
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I am sure that I could make one explode
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MTA
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I have had one explode. It is on par with the MSS tablets explosion wise
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Mamodman123
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| johnreid wrote: | | I am sure that I could make one explode |
Solid fuel bombs 
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James
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When I fired the #75 up at STIA on Mamod tablets, it nearly choked everyone to death LMFAO!
BTW... I fire my Wilesco Roller on 3 at a time
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johnreid
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Johnny E
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If I'm using me TE1a outside I use three of these round tablets or meths (depends on my mood). Wait until the first two tablets have burned away a bit to create some extra space then bang another tablet in.
They do niff though. Meths has a much more pleasant aroma, especially for firing indoors where it is very possible to stink the whole ground floor out with solid fuel.
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bessytractor
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I hate them, I really miss the old square ones. BUT the mamod ones are better than the esbit tablets.
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mc_mc
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To light mine I put a drop of meths on a small square of paper kitchen towel and stick that to the tablet. You light the paper and that then lights the tablet, much easier.
But I have now made meths burners for the two engines that weren't meths to start with (SP5 + Jensen #60).
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Nick
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I've never had a tablet explode, they just shoot little pieces with a smoke trail.
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Lewis
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i have had a few oif mine explode
it invloved water and meths onto a lit one
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Les
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| ncseverson wrote: | | I've never had a tablet explode, they just shoot little pieces with a smoke trail. |
Near enough.
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Minor1PJG
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I won't use Esbit any more they stink and leave a real mess.
I used to prefer MSS tablets as they seemed like the old Mamod Brown Box tablets but they don't seem to burn away as well as the new Mamod ones. The MSS tablets leave a solid residue that has to be chipped out of the fuel tray almost as though the tablet has not fully burned.
So I now prefer the new mamod blocks as they seem the least messy and I can neatly fit 3 in a Wilesco burner slide
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bessytractor
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| Minor1PJG wrote: | I won't use Esbit any more they stink and leave a real mess.
I used to prefer MSS tablets as they seemed like the old Mamod Brown Box tablets but they don't seem to burn away as well as the new Mamod ones. The MSS tablets leave a solid residue that has to be chipped out of the fuel tray almost as though the tablet has not fully burned.
So I now prefer the new mamod blocks as they seem the least messy and I can neatly fit 3 in a Wilesco burner slide |
Chavsteam mistakenly sent me more boxes of Wilesco than the Mamod ones I originally ordered! I even got a free Esbit burner!
Suffice to say, none of it went back
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Mamodman123
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Minor1PJG wrote: | I won't use Esbit any more they stink and leave a real mess.
I used to prefer MSS tablets as they seemed like the old Mamod Brown Box tablets but they don't seem to burn away as well as the new Mamod ones. The MSS tablets leave a solid residue that has to be chipped out of the fuel tray almost as though the tablet has not fully burned.
So I now prefer the new mamod blocks as they seem the least messy and I can neatly fit 3 in a Wilesco burner slide |
Chavsteam mistakenly sent me more boxes of Wilesco than the Mamod ones I originally ordered! I even got a free Esbit burner!
Suffice to say, none of it went back |
He's sent me free crap before, a load of loco nuts and bolts
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bessytractor
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I weighed the nine esbit boxes and compared them to the original 3 boxes of mamod tablets weight.
Its about 3 times more
thanks Chavsteam but next time, don't rip yourself off!
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Minor1PJG
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Bloody Esbit 
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Sandman
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Minor1PJG wrote: | I won't use Esbit any more they stink and leave a real mess.
I used to prefer MSS tablets as they seemed like the old Mamod Brown Box tablets but they don't seem to burn away as well as the new Mamod ones. The MSS tablets leave a solid residue that has to be chipped out of the fuel tray almost as though the tablet has not fully burned.
So I now prefer the new mamod blocks as they seem the least messy and I can neatly fit 3 in a Wilesco burner slide |
Chavsteam mistakenly sent me more boxes of Wilesco than the Mamod ones I originally ordered! I even got a free Esbit burner!
Suffice to say, none of it went back |
So that's where my bleeding stuff went.
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Mamodman123
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| bessytractor wrote: | I weighed the boxes and compared them to the original 3 boxes of mamod tablets weight.
Its about 3 times more
thanks Chavsteam but next time, don't rip yourself off! |
LMAO
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bessytractor
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| Minor1PJG wrote: | | Bloody Esbit |
got a lot to get rid of 
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James
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I'll have it!!
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bessytractor
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I bet you would and all Jimbo!
It may be useless and all but I'm going to hang onto it for my SP2 and Brooklands Tourer (my only solid fuel engines!)
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Les
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Minor1PJG wrote: | | Bloody Esbit |
got a lot to get rid of |
So has Chasteam by the sound of it.
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James
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Bugger!
You sure?
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bessytractor
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| James wrote: | Bugger!
You sure? |
I need it! Trust me mate its awful stuff. Its all broken and all. You tip crumbs into the burner tray.
There were tiny crumbs of Esbit all over the place when I unpacked them from the parcel
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bessytractor
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| Les Marsh wrote: | | bessytractor wrote: | | Minor1PJG wrote: | | Bloody Esbit |
got a lot to get rid of |
So has Chasteam by the sound of it. |
Don't blame him!
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Mamodman123
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Never used Esbit, my Wilesco runs on mamod fuel and thats enough for me 
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bessytractor
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | Never used Esbit, my Wilesco runs on mamod fuel and thats enough for me |
totally, when the nine boxes are gone never again
crumbs it will take me a year
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Les
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Never used Esbit, my Wilesco runs on mamod fuel and thats enough for me |
totally, when the nine boxes are gone never again
crumbs it will take me a year |
Start steaming.
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Mamodman123
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Never used Esbit, my Wilesco runs on mamod fuel and thats enough for me |
totally, when the nine boxes are gone never again
crumbs it will take me a year |
LMFAO!
Mamod ones aren't so bad afterall
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bessytractor
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | bessytractor wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Never used Esbit, my Wilesco runs on mamod fuel and thats enough for me |
totally, when the nine boxes are gone never again
crumbs it will take me a year |
LMFAO!
Mamod ones aren't so bad afterall |
I concur
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johnreid
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I have the Esbit Tablets for my Wilesco, I do not like the smell, but tey seem to burn well. Meths is far superior though.
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Nick
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| bessytractor wrote: | | Minor1PJG wrote: | | Bloody Esbit |
got a lot to get rid of |
Burn it! 
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steamyjim
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I foudn the Mamod round ones burn fine. I was cramming them into my Wilesco generating plant continously at STIA-it does have a water pump
Didn't take long to heat the large boiler from cold aswell
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bessytractor
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| steamyjim wrote: | I foudn the Mamod round ones burn fine. I was cramming them into my Wilesco generating plant continously at STIA-it does have a water pump
Didn't take long to heat the large boiler from cold aswell |
proper fireman!
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syrtismajor
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| James wrote: | When I fired the #75 up at STIA on Mamod tablets, it nearly choked everyone to death LMFAO!
BTW... I fire my Wilesco Roller on 3 at a time |
I got a faceful of that! 
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James
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Jolly good old bean!!
I should have charged you for inhaling MY fumes!!
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syrtismajor
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| James wrote: | Jolly good old bean!!
I should have charged you for inhaling MY fumes!! |
You could spent the proceeds on another German engine!
I wouldn't have minded if the smoke had been coming out of the stack!
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James
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I want to buy another 75 to do that! Make the firebox smoke and exhaust steam go up the chimney!!
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syrtismajor
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| James wrote: |
I want to buy another 75 to do that! Make the firebox smoke and exhaust steam go up the chimney!! |
I've stared at my '75' too and thought that, funnel some of the hot gases and steam up there to add to the effect. And with whatever you did to the one at STIA you'll be able to send smoke signals with yours!
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James
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LMAO!
Don't want to do it to mine, it's the copper clad type
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syrtismajor
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Ah, the rare type!
It's not too expensive to get a new one from Forest, especially with the exchange rate with America at the moment. For what you get it's by far the best value for money in the stationary world if you're looking to buy new.
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James
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Aye mate! Tis!
Phil said he has sold 7 out of 8 in about 3 months LOL!
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syrtismajor
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Then you need to buy the eighth!
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James
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That were on his table at STIA
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syrtismajor
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Why not your table?
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James
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Cos I were already skint
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Bogstandard
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Have been reading this post with great interest.
Doesn't anyone ever fill up the boiler with hot water?
When I used to sail my steam boats, I would take a flask of hot water with me. It saved a fortune on gas, bringing the boiler up to pressure, it got up to full pressure in about quarter of the time.
John
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bessytractor
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I do.
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johnreid
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Even when I am using my electrically heated engines, I bring the water to a boil in the Microwave and it saves a lot of time and energy. Meths fired engines run longer and are up to pressure much faster.
Oh yeah, get that 75 before the exchange rate reverses itself. Exchange rates change so very quickly, once you take it for granted, it can change.
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syrtismajor
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Me to, normally straight from the kettle if I can
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Sandman
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| syrtismajor wrote: | | Me to, normally straight from the kettle if I can |
Me too.
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Nick
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Never tried it, but I bet it would get the engine going a lot faster.
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Les
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No, as I use rainwater where ever possible.
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DLR
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in my roundhouse bertie , from cold it takes around eight and a half minutes to working pressure and with warm water (about 70 degrees) it takes just over two
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johnreid
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| Les Marsh wrote: | | No, as I use rainwater where ever possible. |
My Tap Water is Rain Water, I now have a jug of distilled too though. Went to the Local WalMart and all they had was "Spring Water" which is full of Lime. Found Distilled at the Grocery Store though.
Do not know why you cant heat Rain Water though, I do.
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Nick
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| Les Marsh wrote: | | No, as I use rainwater where ever possible. |
Wouldn't rainwater be kind of dirty? I think I'd run it through a coffee filter.
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Nick
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John, the Wal-Mart here has distilled water in gallon jugs for 68 cents or something like that.
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johnreid
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My water is filtered, but I think that Rain Water is cleaner than most City Water would be. Miles of Rusty Water Mains and such.
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Nick
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Or lead pipe.
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Les
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No nasty chemical additives, unless you include acid rain.
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Les
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No nasty chemical additives, unless you include acid rain.
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Nick
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Every time I've collected rain, there seems to be specs of dirt. What happened that you posted the same thing three times? (I see you were able to delete one)
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Minor1PJG
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My water has added flouride to keep my engines clean & bright
Might help children's teeth too
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Les
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| ncseverson wrote: | | Every time I've collected rain, there seems to be specs of dirt. What happened that you posted the same thing three times? (I see you were able to delete one) |
Computer had the hiccups.
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Les
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| ncseverson wrote: | | Every time I've collected rain, there seems to be specs of dirt. What happened that you posted the same thing three times? (I see you were able to delete one) |
Filter it before you use it.
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Nick
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| Les Marsh wrote: | | ncseverson wrote: | | Every time I've collected rain, there seems to be specs of dirt. What happened that you posted the same thing three times? (I see you were able to delete one) |
Computer had the hiccups. |
At least it wasn't while you were on ebay, bidding.
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Les
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| ncseverson wrote: | | Les Marsh wrote: | | ncseverson wrote: | | Every time I've collected rain, there seems to be specs of dirt. What happened that you posted the same thing three times? (I see you were able to delete one) |
Computer had the hiccups. |
At least it wasn't while you were on ebay, bidding. |
If it was, I might have won.
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Les
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| johnreid wrote: | | Les Marsh wrote: | | No, as I use rainwater where ever possible. |
My Tap Water is Rain Water, I now have a jug of distilled too though. Went to the Local WalMart and all they had was "Spring Water" which is full of Lime. Found Distilled at the Grocery Store though.
Do not know why you cant heat Rain Water though, I do. |
No spare kettle and 'er indoors goes mad If I use the house one.
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Nick
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Pickup a cheap, used coffee maker and it will heat and filter the water (just don't put the coffee in it ).
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johnreid
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| Quote: |
Pickup a cheap, used coffee maker and it will heat and filter the water (just don't put the coffee in it ). |
Why not run your engines on Tea?
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Nick
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And you could drink the leftover at the end of the run because it would already be hot.
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Atticman
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| Bogstandard wrote: | Have been reading this post with great interest.
Doesn't anyone ever fill up the boiler with hot water?
When I used to sail my steam boats, I would take a flask of hot water with me. It saved a fortune on gas, bringing the boiler up to pressure, it got up to full pressure in about quarter of the time.
John |
I heat it up John, as you say, means the engines go for much longer, no meths wasted heating it up.
I also use now use rainwater, my dad uses tap water after it had been through a "water softened" levers and sightglasses well stuck and whitened.
Odilon bought a meths fired gas stove to STIA looked like it worked well.
I bought my kettle, and tripped the electrics
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Les
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| Atticman wrote: | | Bogstandard wrote: | Have been reading this post with great interest.
Doesn't anyone ever fill up the boiler with hot water?
When I used to sail my steam boats, I would take a flask of hot water with me. It saved a fortune on gas, bringing the boiler up to pressure, it got up to full pressure in about quarter of the time.
John |
I heat it up John, as you say, means the engines go for much longer, no meths wasted heating it up.
I also use now use rainwater, my dad uses tap water after it had been through a "water softened" levers and sightglasses well stuck and whitened.
Odilon bought a meths fired gas stove to STIA looked like it worked well.
I bought my kettle, and tripped the electrics |
I bet you were popular at the time.
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Mister Occlusion
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| Bogstandard wrote: | Have been reading this post with great interest.
Doesn't anyone ever fill up the boiler with hot water?
When I used to sail my steam boats, I would take a flask of hot water with me. It saved a fortune on gas, bringing the boiler up to pressure, it got up to full pressure in about quarter of the time.
John |
I used to all the time when I was running outdoors.
But there is so little room on my bench top, and I am lazy, and I usually spend the warm up time oiling the snot out of everything anyway
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steamyjim
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I usually boil my water before filling the boiler Always steams up quicker and runs for longer
Aulthough i use distilled water when im recomended to eg 00 gauge live steam
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Steamgirl
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Last time we fired up my SE2a (ie when it was still together!) Dave did use water from his kettle. I never thought to do that at home because I'm always banished to the garage
When I first "borrowed" the MM1 from my brother and attempted to find distilled water, I used the water from the condenser in my tumble dryer. In fact, it may have been my looking for somewhere to ask whether that was OK that led to me finding this forum... 
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