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kusuchi

Marine Steam Plant identification.

Can anyone identify this steam plant?



It's fitted in this Tugboat.



kusuchi

OK, this wasn't supposed to be a quiz, but I think those are twin Cheddar puffins with a Proteus Boiler?

Am I right?

Or is it the Pelican/Puffin Maxi Boiler?
logoman

correct, wasn't sure about the boiler.
kusuchi

Hey, that's Wal.  

Maybe Steve can ask him on Saturday.
mogogear

Easy to tell who the Graupner makers copied....

logoman

I got my Cheddar 3500 back from Mike (maccsteam) today, I had a problem with a burner not fitting properly, I needed a chimney made, another burner for the small boiler in the warship, and a few other bits and pieces.

very happy to have both boilers back, I think I'll pair the Cheddar with the TVR1A.
steamyjim

At first I thought this was a Puffin Maxi power plant, but something isn't right. Just checked one of the Cheddar catalouges and the Puffin Maxi boiler (the Proteus one) looks shorter and fatter than the one that is fitted into the boat, the chimney is also at the other end and the fittings are in different places

The engine units on the Puffin Maxi are also fitted to a tray and the pipework is different to the one in the hull.

The Puffin Maxi is as shown on the video. I would say the one in the boat was made from 2 Puffin engines and a
steamyjim

The boiler looks to me like a big version of the horizontal Pelican boiler as that has the chimney and fittings fitted that way
kusuchi

steamyjim wrote:
The boiler looks to me like a big version of the horizontal Pelican boiler as that has the chimney and fittings fitted that way


A Pelican Maxi?
Les

It is definitely two Puffin engines but the boiler is not a Cheddar Proteus boiler, this is what a Proteus boiler looks like.




steamyjim

After a bit more research what it turns out you have is a very early (1995) Puffin Maxi Plant. This had the early version of the Proteus boiler which is longer and slenderer compared to the later improve version or the CMB6 Long Horizontal Boiler. The early version was also supplied with the engines seperatley without a tray so different piping arrangements could be done easier

In 1995 the prices were

Complete unit RTR : £795.59
Complete unit machined kit : £645.08

Engine unit only machined kit : £193.88 (you would need 2 to make the whole thing)
CMB6 Long Horizontal Boiler : £269.80
Proteus Horizontal Boiler : £381.88
steamyjim

kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
The boiler looks to me like a big version of the horizontal Pelican boiler as that has the chimney and fittings fitted that way


A Pelican Maxi?


No, the Pelican was the V-Twin version of the Puffin

See my above post it solves it
steamyjim

Les wrote:
It is definitely two Puffin engines but the boiler is not a Cheddar Proteus boiler, this is what a Proteus boiler looks like.

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It is, just an old one
steamyjim

That is a damn fine boat Les, love the Proteus! Does it have the ABC or EGV? If so the old mechanical one or the new digital one?
kusuchi

Thanks Jim, Great research.

Nice boat, Les.  Where have you been hiding that?

Can we see more of it?
steamyjim

If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things
kusuchi

steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.
steamyjim

kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff
Les

steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.
steamyjim

Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.


There are 2 new boilers, the newly re-released Clare launch and a few new burners and bits and peices in it  

I have one of the prototype boilers somewhere that was never released
Les

steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.


There are 2 new boilers, the newly re-released Clare launch and a few new burners and bits and peices in it  

I have one of the prototype boilers somewhere that was never released


They would be nice to see as I have the Pipit, Puffin and Proteus Steam Plants and the Standard Horizontal and Vertical boilers.  
steamyjim

Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.


There are 2 new boilers, the newly re-released Clare launch and a few new burners and bits and peices in it  

I have one of the prototype boilers somewhere that was never released


They would be nice to see as I have the Pipit, Puffin and Proteus Steam Plants and the Standard Horizontal and Vertical boilers.  


Lucky git, I love the Proteus!

I have the pre-pro Iver and the very last engine ever made by the company-a Pintail vertical plant
Les

steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.


There are 2 new boilers, the newly re-released Clare launch and a few new burners and bits and peices in it  

I have one of the prototype boilers somewhere that was never released


They would be nice to see as I have the Pipit, Puffin and Proteus Steam Plants and the Standard Horizontal and Vertical boilers.  


Lucky git, I love the Proteus!

I have the pre-pro Iver and the very last engine ever made by the company-a Pintail vertical plant


I am only lucky as they let me pay for it over 6 months.  

mogogear

That favour, Les...is more
steamyjim

Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
Les wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
kusuchi wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
If anyone has any Cheddar queries ask me, I have every catalouge since 1995 I was a year old when that was printed

I also have a copy of a catalouge that was never released to the public which has a few of there new developments before they shut down in it...has a few interesting things


Any chance you could scan them and put them in the Member's File Sharing Area?  Realize this could be a big job.  

My oldest son was 10 in 1995.  Won't even begin to talk about me.


I'll have a go at one of them, a lot of it is repeated through the other catalouges so your not realy missing much

If I did them all it would be around 130 pages And that isn't couting the loco catalouge and various price lists and other stuff


I would like to see the unreleased one.


There are 2 new boilers, the newly re-released Clare launch and a few new burners and bits and peices in it  

I have one of the prototype boilers somewhere that was never released


They would be nice to see as I have the Pipit, Puffin and Proteus Steam Plants and the Standard Horizontal and Vertical boilers.  


Lucky git, I love the Proteus!

I have the pre-pro Iver and the very last engine ever made by the company-a Pintail vertical plant


I am only lucky as they let me pay for it over 6 months.  



Very lucky!

I was very lucky with my 2 aswell My Iver cost £100 and the Pintail £200...or £250 can't remember
Les

mogogear wrote:
That favour, Les...is more


I will do a seperate thread at some stage as I have already hijacked Richards thread.  

Sorry Richard.
Les

Re: Marine Steam Plant identification.

kusuchi wrote:
Can anyone identify this steam plant?



It's fitted in this Tugboat.





Now we know what the steam plant is are you going to buy it Richard??
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