MM2 Flatbase cleanup

Wallace · MM2 Flatbase cleanup

Today I got my first Flatbase engine, also my first Brass wheeled engine. Yes it came with the windmill

So far I have only added missing parts. Sourced from this MM2 which I got for 22pound. I needed the burner and piston/crank.

The above engine will be done up in another project. With parts added from another engine

Wallace

So far I have added needed parts

Now I just have to do some cleaning, and may repaint the burner.

Am I right in saying it's dated from 1948-1952?

Also, if anyone has the same type engine complete with feet, could they please put a picture up of them please?

Cheers

Wallace

Oh yeah, the safety valve was stuck, so I gently tapped it, and poured boiling water on it.
With some gentle easing with pliers, it came undone.
I need to add a new oring to the top of it

yosa

Thats a nice buy Wallace, and a nice project. I think these engines have a pleasing look to them and the flatbase is a great bonus.

Is this the engine that was mounted on a board with the windmill or am I thinking of another one?

Also mate, is the windmill a notable make, like Willesco or something?

Looking forward to the resto pics.

tmuir

The will clean up nice but what happened to the bottom one, it looks like the burner expoded in it.

Ahhhh the joys of spilling lit meths.

Wallace

Cheers mate.
Yeah that was the one, it was on a board.

No idea with the windmill. I put another post up on General. The only word I can make out on decal is "product" and possibly "carette"

There was only one moment of panic. The MM2 I have from early 70's has a thick shafted crank axle, thicker than meccano.

I get all my engines sent to my parents, that makes it missus proof, and also someone is home most of the time.

When I opened it there I noted the small hole in flywheel, and thought I wouldn't have a crank to fit it

I grabbed one of the old mans meccano axles, it was too big. Until I got home I wasn't sure if the donor engines crank would fit. Luckily it had the smaller size axle

yosa

Mamodman123

The flatbase looks excellent Wallace. That one will clean up a treat mate!. They were made between 1948-1952 so you are spot on there too. Got a nice decal and the paintwork looks good too!.

It makes me want the brass flywheel version over my mazak one

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The donar MM2 is pretty rough, but you got it for the burner so that's ok

. I think you should leave the burner, I know it's burnt... but keeping it original would be better in the long run

Any plans for the raised base MM2 Wallace?

SPOKESMAN

Looking good Wallace - the production run probably crept into '53.

Take care of the decal!

sparky

its certainly nice

Steve_S

Very nice engine Wallace!

Steely

Nice one Wallace.

Just a thought....Does it have the right piston rod or did they have that type of piston rod towards the end of the production. It's just that my flatbase MM2 has the flat ended piston rod.

SPOKESMAN

Piston connecting rod with the integral eye is OK, some were flattened out. It a difficult one to accurately date - possibly it dates from a littel later than the engine around late 50s.

Steely

Wallace

Cheers guys for the comments.

It took a while, but finally got a flatbase.

Been cleaning it up this morning, and cleaning around the engine frame is giving grief

. Pics later

Yeah MM, I think I'll keep the burner orignal as you say. It'd be the only repainted part, so would look wrong.

Steely, that piston rod may be wrong, as it's from a raised based MM2 wick burner type. I considered heating tip with oxy and "blacksmithing" it, but that would do more harm than good, so I'll leave it as is.

MM, I have plans for the raised based MM2 as I have the one already mentioned (the wreck):

And I still have this one I put up a few weeks ago. It was the one with a repainted firebox. And had the badly corroded brass type burner

for which I got a 15pound refund

Since I put pics up of that a few weeks back, I couldn't for the life of me work out why the boiler looks clean in pic, but not shiny

Up close it's actually rough
Well it looks like someone painted it

So once I work out how I'll get paint off, I'll start another thread of it's resto. I will sell it on, but don't know whether I'll sell it with a wick burner base, or a other burner base.
In the end, I'll have a MM2 to sell, and the spares (boiler, base, firebox, cylinder.

It was interesting that the cylinder on the brass wheeled one was shorter than the other 2 MM2's shown.

SPOKESMAN

That looks tidier Wallace!

Sandman

Hi Wallace.

Nitromores will shift the paint on the boiler.

Great stuff but be very careful, especially if there are kids about.

SPOKESMAN

Mamodman123

Wallace

Cheers guys.

I'll start another thread for my other resto.

But in the meantime, I finished the Flatbase cleanup.

Came up good, very happy with it. As it's not original crank, that may be a little long, as seen in pic. I might cut it off.

First 2 pics are without flash indoors. Getting dark now
Last pic is with flash, but it kept playing up with boiler reflection

I'll try for a nice outdoors one sometime

SPOKESMAN

That does look good Wallace, are you going trim the crank shaft?.

Dare I say it paint the lamp?
You have steam it too!

Wallace

Mamodman123

Looks fantastic Wallace!

really excellent job done there.

I would trim the crankshaft a little, but the rest is perfect! I would definatly leave the burner, it would look too new and shiney for a flatbase, woud defintly be the wrong decision there

I don't blame you for not steaming it either, it's your choice, your engine

it's nice what ever you do with it

tmuir

Looks good Wallace.
I dont know why but flatbases just some how look better than raised base engines.

Mamodman123

Just noticed that the decal is on the other side to all the ones ive seen before

oldstuff

Great job, Wallace! Did you make a bung for the burner?

Wallace

Cheers guys.

MM, I noticed the decal on the wrong side. I'm sure someone had a MM1 (disc crank?) that was the same too.
I am leaving it as is, just going to trim the crank shaft.
I wouldn't mind fitting some "feet" to it, just for display? Mainly cos it kind sits on the rivets and boiler strap bolts, but spose it doesn't matter

Totally agree tmuir, the flatbases do look much better. Unsure why though

Chuck thanks for reminding me. I was going to ask about the bung, but have a feeling those burners didn't have one.

Anyone, did these particular burners have a bung?

Cheers again guys

Mamodman123

My masak version has a bung Wallace. I can't remember for defiante if this version had one. I don't think it makes all that much difference to the looks, many have been lost through the years

Adding some feet would be a good idea, maybe cut them out of rubber or something Wallace?

yosa

Excellent job Wallace.

I think leaving the burner is a good decision.

Wallace

Cheers guys

I have some thick rubber we used on steps at work I can make some feet out of, which I will do