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At that rate of speed it could "almost" catch a Jensen #5 cheers mate, Rog Most SE3s do . . . very much the Ferrari of the toy steam world. As for a Jensen no. 5 . . . . SPOKESMAN THIS IS FAST . . . Mamodman123 I think he means mine on Youtube The secrets are good seals, well run in and well oiled and they will fly!!!! I can get it faster with the original heavier flywheel on IndianaRog I meant James (aka: Mamodman's SE3) Mike, So that you don't go thru life deprived of viewing a "real" Ferrari, check out the Jensen #5 YouTube video within my website at the following link: http://www.indianarog.com/jensensteamengines.htm#85663891 While I can't be absolutely certain without a tach, I do believe a Jensen #5 would blow the doors off an SE3 in the speed dept. Once that heavy cast iron flywheel gets going, it has incredible momentum and will drive any accessory (or 10 of them) that one can hook up to it. Of course being tethered to mains power vs. Esbit or meths, it's not quite a fair comparison!! cheers, Roger Knowsnothin Being an impartial observer ... Of both the Jenson video, and Mikes SE3 video I would have to say The Jenson got its arse kicked .......... IndianaRog My SE3 must be missing something... Mike, I have an SE3 myself but I think mine must be missing something...I simply can't find the rose colored glasses that must be standard issue on SE3's that reside outside the US. Perhaps I just need to inhale some meths to get into the right mindset that slows the Jensen #5 down and speeds the SE3 up...yes, that must be it as otherwise you'd have to be jesting. Though half English myself (mum's from Exeter)...I still can't always tell when you guys are joking. Check out Mooseman's site as well...he has a Jensen #5 that likewise is a "SE3DBO" (SE3 Door Blower Offer), maybe the clear difference will be more visible eminating from a British website cheers, Roger SPOKESMAN Difficult one to call Rog!! I think with my well tuned ear for speed . . . maybe the SE3 just squeaks it But then you knew Id say that . . . The No.5 looks a robust fella. MooseMan I used to have an SE3, but I sold it....I regret that now, and I intend to remedy this in the near future I do have a fantastic vintage Jensen 5, and that is without a doubt the most powerful single acting oscillating engine I have ever seen - the thing is just unstoppable, freewheeling under full steam it is incredibly fast! It packs enough of a punch to drive a small engine....with the exhaust! IndianaRog Spokesman...ever the diplomat!! I think I see two winners in an SE3 vs. Jensen 5 speed quest. The SE3 would win the Esbit/Meths fired class ...the Jensen 5 would win the mains powered category . Frankly, above 2000 rpms, a blur is a blur. Maybe one of these days if someone had one of those electronic tachs we could scientifically rank a number of engines...a good project for a pub get together!! Then again, who cares how fast they go...in reality the engines they were based on never went near as fast. One thing about mains powered engines is the ability via dimmer to throttle them down to just a tick over...60-100 rpms...then you see the beauty of these engines for what they are. With that...enjoy STIA one and all. Here in the states we'll all be watching the SuperBowl on Sunday, and for the first time in history the Indianapolis Colts (my hometown team) are battling the Chicago Bears for the championship...Sunday is a very BIG sports day in the US!! cheers, Rog JensenSteamMan Ha.... this is a fun thread! Obviously, we all know the overall winner is the Jensen 95G turbine.... rumored to *ahem* turn at speeds of 14,000rpms, 11,000 when hooked up to the generator.... in the piston category, I would say the 5 will completely win. Although a #70 still gives it a run for the money (even though the #5 and #70 are essentially the same engine) I might post up a link to the video of my #70 at max RPMS that whenever I hear it I head for cover!! Cheers, Casey TE1A_man Hold on, hold on!!! There is a digital tach available from hobbico for the little gas motors, perhaps that would work??? Or, even, i have a stationary bike that has a speed-o on it. SPOKESMAN JensenSteamMan wrote: Ha.... this is a fun thread! Obviously, we all know the overall winner is the Jensen 95G turbine.... rumored to *ahem* turn at speeds of 14,000rpms, 11,000 when hooked up to the generator.... in the piston category, I would say the 5 will completely win. Although a #70 still gives it a run for the money (even though the #5 and #70 are essentially the same engine) I might post up a link to the video of my #70 at max RPMS that whenever I hear it I head for cover!! Cheers, Casey I think this thread refers to reciprocating engines! SPOKESMAN Re: Spokesman...ever the diplomat!! IndianaRog wrote: I think I see two winners in an SE3 vs. Jensen 5 speed quest. The SE3 would win the Esbit/Meths fired class ...the Jensen 5 would win the mains powered category . Frankly, above 2000 rpms, a blur is a blur. Maybe one of these days if someone had one of those electronic tachs we could scientifically rank a number of engines...a good project for a pub get together!! Then again, who cares how fast they go...in reality the engines they were based on never went near as fast. One thing about mains powered engines is the ability via dimmer to throttle them down to just a tick over...60-100 rpms...then you see the beauty of these engines for what they are. With that...enjoy STIA one and all. Here in the states we'll all be watching the SuperBowl on Sunday, and for the first time in history the Indianapolis Colts (my hometown team) are battling the Chicago Bears for the championship...Sunday is a very BIG sports day in the US!! cheers, Rog Spot on! SPOKESMAN MooseMan wrote: I used to have an SE3, but I sold it....I regret that now, and I intend to remedy this in the near future I do have a fantastic vintage Jensen 5, and that is without a doubt the most powerful single acting oscillating engine I have ever seen - the thing is just unstoppable, freewheeling under full steam it is incredibly fast! It packs enough of a punch to drive a small engine....with the exhaust! Great experiment there Moose! You sold your SE3, right repeat after me(x1000 times) The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . The SE3 is the finest twin cylindered toy steam engine made . . . and so on! MooseMan The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . etc... sparky Mamodman123 MooseMan wrote: The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . The SE3 is a fine twin cylindered toy steam engine . . . etc... Thats more like it sparky thought you would agree James Moosey, PLEASE could you take the Jensen on sunday? I would love to see it in action! MooseMan James wrote: Moosey, PLEASE could you take the Jensen on sunday? I would love to see it in action! Sorry mate - if it was meths fired I'd take it, but as it is electrically heated with a system that would not pass a PAT test in a million years it's just not an option....plus I have my daughter in tow, and she'll want to browse. I'll see if I can find some hires video of it and plonk it on a DVD fr you though. James We are thinking of taking our small brand new petrol generator. Could plug it into that if you wanted to? Great idea about the DVD mate! Wallace With all due respect to the SE3 v's Jensen #5 debate, it's not the RPM you want, it's the power. ie, take a diesel engine. Low RPM but powerful And a rotary engine. High RPM but would be lucky to pull the skin off a rice pudding We need someone here to hook both up to some contraption (a crane?) and really put them to a test Now that'd be good. JensenSteamMan Wallace wrote: With all due respect to the SE3 v's Jensen #5 debate, it's not the RPM you want, it's the power. ie, take a diesel engine. Low RPM but powerful And a rotary engine. High RPM but would be lucky to pull the skin off a rice pudding We need someone here to hook both up to some contraption (a crane?) and really put them to a test Now that'd be good. Well, the Jensen wins on that ground as well too : ) I'm working on a method to be able to consistenly measure the power of the toysteam engines.... I hope to have something to show for it real soon. Cheers, casey SPOKESMAN JensenSteamMan wrote: Wallace wrote: With all due respect to the SE3 v's Jensen #5 debate, it's not the RPM you want, it's the power. ie, take a diesel engine. Low RPM but powerful And a rotary engine. High RPM but would be lucky to pull the skin off a rice pudding We need someone here to hook both up to some contraption (a crane?) and really put them to a test Now that'd be good. Well, the Jensen wins on that ground as well too : ) I'm working on a method to be able to consistenly measure the power of the toysteam engines.... I hope to have something to show for it real soon. Cheers, casey What utter tosh!! How? Proof? Exeperiment? Wallace Hmm, I'm looking forward to the results/experiment/proof too As they say with cars (which drivers are commonly know to brag about how fast there's is) The bull*%^t stops when the flag drops Now, into wait and see mode James Wallace wrote: Hmm, I'm looking forward to the results/experiment/proof too As they say with cars (which drivers are commonly know to brag about how fast there's is) The bull*%^t stops when the flag drops Now, into wait and see mode LMAO! Mamodman123 That Jensen is more powerful than an SE3? errm I'd like to see some proof because that has got to be wrong surely? Knowsnothin Knowsnothin wrote: Being an impartial observer ... Of both the Jenson video, and Mikes SE3 video I would have to say The Jenson got its arse kicked .......... Well I got to say it again .......... The Jenson looks very sluggish in that video I would think its on par with a Wilesco.... And shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as a Mamod tmuir Knowsnothin wrote: Well I got to say it again .......... The Jenson looks very sluggish in that video I would think its on par with a Wilesco.... And shouldnt be mentioned in the same breath as a Mamod Thems fighting words, I'm going to stand back now and watch the dust fly. I think we need more of those digital tachos for a definative answer. James Me too, I ain't getting involved... for once Mamodman123 I'm going to measure the speed of my SE3! Then we'll see which is faster JensenSteamMan Well first fact is without even haveing to run either of the engines I'm pretty sure the Jensen has more displacement. A Jensen #5 / #70 / #25 / #75 have the same displacement as a Wilesco D22. If somebody gives me the dimensions (boreXstroke) of the mamod then i'll post the displacement alongside the displacement of the Jensen. Cheers, Casey tmuir From what I've heard Jensen will wn in the whats bigger comp. Will probably win in whats more solidily made comp. For power if you include Jensen's double action engines only Mamods SP6 could compete but in speed its fair game I think. TE1A_man Casey, Make a erector set crane, and a scale that measures something like, maybe up to 20 newtons, and hook up a SE3 and a #5 to it and see who can pull the most newtons. Mamodman123 We talking speed here guys or RPM not pulling power! MooseMan If it's RPM you're after....my SEL 1540 is the fastest engine in my collection. Freerunning it sounds like a hummingbird. No power to speak of, though. I gotta get me one of them tachometers! Roly Williams My Jenny Wren goes twice as fast as my SE3 so I guess it'd beat the lot Mind you, it's not surprising - there's hardly any mass in the piston to push back and forth. It just hums along - literally TE1A_man Another idea, hook up a SE3 to a dynamo and light, hook up a #5 to the same dynamo and bulb, and see which one burns brighter (or burns it out ) Wallace TE1A_man wrote: Another idea, hook up a SE3 to a dynamo and light, hook up a #5 to the same dynamo and bulb, and see which one burns brighter (or burns it out ) That's not actually a bad idea mate. To be more accurate, hook the dynamo up to a voltmeter to give exact readouts. James I feel honoured. I have touched this engine Mamodman123 James wrote: I feel honoured. I have touched this engine LMAO James Mamodman123 She went like a gooden...only one that "played up" was the Bowman BANG MTA Doesn't sound good MM Mamodman123 MTA wrote: Doesn't sound good MM We were crowding round the bowman...it was still running after the burner was taken out...it stopped and i kept flicking it..no steam. I unscrewed the safety valve and BANG a big volcano of hot water Gave Jimbo's SE3 and Steelys SE1 a shower James And my face you bastard!! MTA Mamodman123 James wrote: And my face you bastard!! Oh YUS! and steelys hobbies sE3 James I didn't see that!! I never saw the SE3 Mamodman123 James wrote: I didn't see that!! I never saw the SE3 The Hobbies SE3? Me Steely and SM were all drooling over that at the start James Was it in with Sandy's? Mamodman123 James wrote: Was it in with Sandy's? Yes near there! How shiney were SM's engines James Ahh! I see it on the video now! They were so clean people were being blinded Mamodman123 James wrote: Ahh! I see it on the video now! They were so clean people were being blinded We handed out loads and loads of leaflets James Aye. Every single one went. I tok the last one off Forest Classics when we went to say ta ra Mamodman123 James wrote: Aye. Every single one went. I tok the last one off Forest Classics when we went to say ta ra Everyone went? James Aye. Every single leaflet went. Somebody left a whitey bluey towel. I brought it home, so if it is yours, let me know and I will post it to you. Mamodman123 James wrote: Aye. Every single leaflet went. Somebody left a whitey bluey towel. I brought it home, so if it is yours, let me know and I will post it to you. You brought a shed load of engines James Like I said, everything in my collection Mamodman123 James wrote: Like I said, everything in my collection I saw that James Like owt in particular? Mamodman123 James wrote: Like owt in particular? 46 SE1! James Aye! It's rate int it. What did you think to my buys? Mamodman123 James wrote: Aye! It's rate int it. What did you think to my buys? Pretty sweet! the FB SE1 was a steal at 20 bones James Brass flywheel, the works As I said, I love the smell of an early morning sucker Mamodman123 James wrote: Brass flywheel, the works As I said, I love the smell of an early morning sucker I nearly sh*t myself when that guy said Ford fiesta then red James Me and Steely started claping and cheering Mamodman123 James wrote: Me and Steely started claping and cheering So did some random bloke Unless the Carpark is private land i was ok James My old man was there aswell. LMFAO! Some random bloke? Are you sure it wasn't SM? To tell you two apart I was going to go: MM, MM give us a wave! MM MM give us a wave Mamodman123 James wrote: My old man was there aswell. LMFAO! Some random bloke? Are you sure it wasn't SM? To tell you two apart I was going to go: MM, MM give us a wave! MM MM give us a wave ummmmmm NO it was some random bloke Most people could tell me apart! I sawe a couple of people i saw from the Nuneaton steam fair James I can't!! You look like book ends Mamodman123 James wrote: I can't!! You look like book ends Hardly James Maybe we should have photos to prove! Mamodman123 James wrote: Maybe we should have photos to prove! Meh...most people could tell us apart I was the lazy one James Did you see that Wilesco D32el? Mamodman123 James wrote: Did you see that Wilesco D32el? Which one is that? James It has 2 bloody huge cylinders and a huge boiler. On the right hand isle, on the right hand side, first or second table in. Mamodman123 James wrote: It has 2 bloody huge cylinders and a huge boiler. On the right hand isle, on the right hand side, first or second table in. Oh yeah i saw it but not in steam...if he did steam it? James Aye at the end. What an engine!! You hardly came to the table, you spent all day with the locos Mamodman123 James wrote: Aye at the end. What an engine!! You hardly came to the table, you spent all day with the locos Nah i didn't...I went up there twice for about half an hour each time! I steamed my SE3 twice and my bowman James Must have been Paul I saw then! Ahhh my head is spinning!! That bloody Bowman! And then Steely went and did the same with his Mamodman123 James wrote: Must have been Paul I saw then! Ahhh my head is spinning!! That bloody Bowman! And then Steely went and did the same with his I know LMAO James Bowmans should be called Bomb-ans Mamodman123 James wrote: Bowmans should be called Bomb-ans Mine is now Stand back there's a bowman about Steely Bowmans are death traps. I was on the phone when it happened LOL. I jumped out of my skin. At least I didn't unscrew the saftey valve without letting the pressure out. James Ahhhh yeah!! And I said you shouldn't talk on your phone and drive Made everyone laugh Mamodman123 Steely wrote: Bowmans are death traps. I was on the phone when it happened LOL. I jumped out of my skin. At least I didn't unscrew the saftey valve without letting the pressure out. The Bowman stopped, i kept ticking it over by hand i thought and so did everyone else the pressure was gone James Dumb arse!! Steely Fancy parking your car on the verge. Mamodman123 Steely wrote: Fancy parking your car on the verge. God damn that wasn't my car... E reg to T reg James I bet Must mean there is somebody else out there with a Mamod colour banger Mamodman123 James wrote: I bet Must mean there is somebody else out there with a Mamod colour banger Banger my arse!!!! James That sounds really wrong You'll have to scrap it soon Mamodman123 James wrote: That sounds really wrong You'll have to scrap it soon Not with 46k on the clock and it running sweet as a nut! The oil is still light brown after being in there from early summer 06!!!!! Runs better than a Bowman, mate James Owt runs better than a Bowman compared to the ones I saw today Mamodman123 James wrote: Owt runs better than a Bowman compared to the ones I saw today Aye James I don't know what it is, but there is a REALLY REALLY big Bowman Mamodman123 James wrote: I don't know what it is, but there is a REALLY REALLY big Bowman E101! It has a boiler like a bloody petrol tank! I was amazed at the size of that        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> General discussion Goto page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2