Need some ID help ..

mogogear · Need some ID help ..

Here are some pictures of a boiler - of very unusual design to me- but that not sounusual-

a engine and a meths burner- Which I believe to be an SEL marine burner... ???? maybe=

The boiler is 5.5" long for scale- so here is the group

and here is the boiler- some wild under tubes that are for - support- better heat conduction??/??

The engine- with a smal oil hole at the base for the crank shaft- a kit looks like aunless anybody sees something familiar?

The little Steam valve/... I do not see a spring in it- there is an adjustment screw in the top and a small bleed hole on the side.

there is a supply line with a displacement oiler. a very unsophisticated design there.. the entire bottom screws off - leaving only the cap. Then you dump the base out and refill..

The little engine runs well on the acquarium pump. It is almost self starting. It has 2 sets of holes in the body of the engine to admit steam /exit exhaust - so that means it is double acting?? Yes!! I think I am getting it slowly.. It Chufs quite loudly!!

All not bad for $10 quid

Lots of cleaning to do- after pictures soon

steamyjim

The engines a Stuart Turner

Aye it would be double acting.

I have the V-Twin version of it

mogogear

WOOOO HoooooooOOO!!!

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You are making my day!! It doesn't say Stuart or ST anywhere-?? but in the vague sellers photo I have to admit I hoped it was a ST- It looked similar- but many kit engines do.

They know who to emulate!

If it is or isn't it sure is nice- It is about 6cm tall by about 5 cm long...

The boiler also has threaded studs on each end- the boiler is really curious to me!!??

johnreid

Is that hole at the base of the crank for lubrication purposes?

steamyjim

No my twin version of it doesn't have any makers marks

mogogear

Les Marsh

I have two of those engines, both unmarked, but one of them is a Cheddar Pipit. I don't have a picture of the other single.

And a twin which is the Cheddar Puffin.

So being unmarked doesn't make it a ST, sorry.

steamyjim

My V-twin is about the 1920s

Stuart reintroduced the single and the twin a while ago

http://www.stuartmodels.com/inprod_det.cfm/section/casting/mod_id/51

MooseMan

I don't think it's a Stuart Turner - rather an AJ Reeves. Just as good, possibly better. They're double acting oscillators, they run really well.

steamyjim

See my post above Moose

mogogear

Ok - no matter what it is - I am happy- Thanks guy's -

What about the burner? and Boiler.. do they look familiar? The boiler could be home built or production...

Here it is with it's initial clean up..

Also the filler cap in the meths burner looks like it used to have an adjustment crew in the center of it. I can't get a focused picture of it- so if anyone does know what it used to look like- I would relish a photo..

Lastly if you do know what this boiler was - is there a photo of the firebox and what it might look like? The bottom tubes are interesting bit a bit puzzling..

MooseMan

Mo, the tubes under the boiler are used to increase the effective heating surface - I have seen that kind of boiler with up to 8 tubes, I think they're called Babcock-type boilers. The alternative is to have tubes running either through or across the boiler, but all serve the same purpose (albeit in different ways).

tmuir

Yes as Moose says and the bit of thread sticking out each end of the boiler is actually a rod that passes through the boiler and will be soldered into the end caps to add strength to the boiler.
The safety valve will have a spring inside it.
Boiler looks home built but done by someone who new what they where doinf.

mogogear

Well I took the SV apart and there is no spring inside???? I will have to get that sorted out - look for a spring and see how it seals up -- tight hopefully!!

What about the burner? I have only seen one of these on a ebay auction- does anybody have a picture of the filler cap? SEL??? It appears to have a the remnants of a turn screw in the cap... possibly. Before I work on getting it backed out- I would like to see what the original might look like... Most of the original paint is there and it is is ship shape other than the cap and getting some new wick material. I will be buying some of Ian's ceramic stuff for that job!!

If a member does have one could you take the cap apart so I could see both parts..

As always - thanks in advance for any shared info-

steamyjim

The reason the Cheddar Pipit is the same as the Stuart is most likely because Cheddar Models used to be sort of owned by Stuart Turner-sort of

mogogear

tmuir

Les Marsh

As for the burner, as far as I know, SEL did not make burners like yours.

mogogear

Thanks Les...Hmm, I can see the marine boiler and this burner in my minds eye..

It sits in a a couple of curved brackets, mounted to the rear of the boiler --a Hobbies marine set up???