marmite
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New LocomotiveI need some advise on a new purchase. I won a locomotive in a local auction. It was cataloged as a gauge 1 engine. On collecting it I thought "my word that's big" or words to that effect. Yesterday I measured the gauge and found it is 2 1/2 inch gauge. For a suburban back yard this is too big and no local tracks run this gauge. Some of the engine looks like it has been commercially built spring, buffers etc. It was cataloged as a kit, would it have been a commercial kit. Has any one got plans or information on the build of "Sir Sam Fay" in this gauge?
I haven't quite worked out where everything goes yet. There is a lubricator which I'm unable to see where it fits, the blower pipe needs re soldered. The boiler has no flues but there is a super heater in the firebox. A stupid question but I have to ask, what sort of burner unit is it spirit or gas. Some of the plumbing seems incomplete, there is an elbow behind the front buffer which I have no idea what it should attach to and some of the cab bit are threaded but I don't know what attaches where.
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made-in-england
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could the burner possibly be pressurised meths?
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marmite
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Wow that didn't take long!
I was wondering if it would be meths or white spirits a bit like the old blow lamps. It seems to be a pressure vessel of some sort.
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bessytractor
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I can tell you now its most likely Bassett Lowke and it has a Smithies boiler. Will is correct it looks like a pressurised paraffin lamp.
stationroadsteam had a 4-4-0 equivalent once http://www.stationroadsteam.co.uk/archive/1649.htm
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SKIPRAT
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Hi Marmite
A pal of mine here in the uk has a model marine boiler with a burner like yours and it runs off Paraffin (Kerosene) and i am sure that is the fuel for your burner.
Cheers Paul
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alan2525
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Is the pipework and elbow under the smokebox the plumbing from a blow down valve fitted to the boiler? On some of my loco's I've fitted pipework from a blowdown to direct steam under the front bufferbeam so it looks a little like cylinder cocks when it operates.
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marmite
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I hope I've got my terminologies correct. I'm calling the blow down the pipe that runs from the cab along the boiler and into the smoke box as shown in the photo. Once in the smoke box it runs down the box and comes up alongside the exhaust pipe. I think it helps draw the flame in the firebox. The elbow is attached to a pipe that protrudes from the valve chest, I've got no idea what attaches to the other end of the elbow . There is a bracket on one side of the chassis just above the front driving wheel. Might there be a pipe that returns to the cab? Or might it have something to do with the lubricator the only problem is the threads on the lubricator don't line up with any of the hole in the chassis for mounting.
Bessytractor thought it might be a Bassett Lowke product, it would be nice if it was- I'd be more compelled to keep it. I wasn't picking it to be that old.
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AzRob
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Quite the machine! Wow!
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steam4ian
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G'day Marmite.
A good win!
| Quote: | | hope I've got my terminologies correct. I'm calling the blow down the pipe that runs from the cab along the boiler and into the smoke box as shown in the photo. Once in the smoke box it runs down the box and comes up alongside the exhaust pipe. I think it helps draw the flame in the firebox. The elbow is attached to a pipe that protrudes from the valve chest, I've got no idea what attaches to the other end of the elbow . There is a bracket on one side of the chassis just above the front driving wheel. Might there be a pipe that returns to the cab? Or might it have something to do with the lubricator the only problem is the threads on the lubricator don't line up with any of the hole in the chassis for mounting. |
The name on the loco suggests it is an LBSC (Curly Lawrence) design of some antiquity as does the engineering set up like the lubricator and backhead detail. As another poster said the boiler is a Smithies type.
You are describing the blower which provides draft when the engine is standing or coasting.
The mystery elbow would connect to the lubricator, there may be a length of pipe missing.
Open the burner tank and sniff. you will smell kerosene, petrol or metho. If there is a pressure pump the fuel is most likely kero.
Try running the chassis on compressed air before you waste too much time. Be generous with light oil for the first run.
BTW, watch out for asbestos it was invariably used on models of this age with a Smithies boiler.
Other question drop me a pm.
Regards
Ian
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