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... yep, mate! That's a good plan! Jus' take yer time, mate. Whenyer done, givver another 12 hours ta' rest, then steam' er up.
James

Aye mate! I'd rather wait 24 hours more to steam it after assembly, than steam her and have to repaint her taking 4 more days!
Mamodman123

Looking good mate!

Using Ford colours too

just make sure you bake them well so it stays like that! Just one thing, remove the paint off the bottom edge of the engine frame! They weren't painted
James

Where abouts lad? Show us a pic!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Where abouts lad? Show us a pic!


on the outside of the engine frame along the bottom...look at your hobbies SE1!
James

Oh aye lad! Not along the top then?
steamgranny

Amazing transformation on that base!    I really need to do that one day on my badly-pitted Latimer.
Engine supports now very elegant in their original livery & looking forward to seeing it finished, in all its glory.
James

Thanks alot SG  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Oh aye lad! Not along the top then?


Leave the top...  
Wallace

Getting better everyday mate. Top stuff  
James

Taken the paint off the bottom of the frames! Paint on base still a bit soft, so will leave it a bit longer before baking!

Firebox won't need baking... stands up to 500 degrees!
James

Bit of an update!

The engine is built up but nothing is fastened down yet.













Les

Thats a vast improvement. Well done. Thumbs up!
steamyjim

Looks brilliant James!
bessytractor

oh my thats looking rather amazing!  Keep up the good work.
Nick

James, that looks great! I bet you're glad you went for the repaint.
James

Thanks guys  
johnreid

Wow, that was a fast one! It looks like you will be finished soon.
James

Cheers John!

I hate hanging about with a resto, but I hate rushing it and buggering it up!  
steamyjim

James wrote:
Cheers John!

I hate hanging about with a resto, but I hate rushing it and buggering it up!  


SNAP
James

What you broke lad?
steamyjim

What?

James

you said snap!
steamyjim

Oh aye
Mamodman123

Looking great so far Jimbo

not much more to do  
James

Nope  

Base still needs baking!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Nope  

Base still needs baking!


You'll want a new overflow plug too lad, that screw isn't original!
James

Ain't it?

Thou joketh! It looks original! Right thread and everything!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Ain't it?

Thou joketh! It looks original! Right thread and everything!


Don't think so lad, it just seems unproffessional to me. You could turn it too far with a screw driver and that would be game over.

got a piccy wicky?  
James

Not at hand lad! Will do in a bit!
johnreid

Quote:
got a piccy wicky?


James

Wow wow wow!

The bolt/plug/thing won't unscrew! And it looks like the previous owner tried to get it out but couldn't  

Errrrrrrrrrm  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Wow wow wow!

The bolt/plug/thing won't unscrew! And it looks like the previous owner tried to get it out but couldn't  

Errrrrrrrrrm  


Calm down, calm down

As a side note, my oiler cap from S4F/MN was glued on  
James

He never mentioned it when he were selling it  

What should I do?
Mamodman123

James wrote:
He never mentioned it when he were selling it  

What should I do?



Try boiling water over it first lad! then cold water, if its been glued in then the glue may perish if you steam it. If its soldered in then oh no  
James

Not soldered lad! Oi oi

I heard a rattling in the boiler...

Tipped it upside down...

Loads of sand and little stones came out  
Les

James wrote:
He never mentioned it when he were selling it  

What should I do?


Panic!!  And then Shooting
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Not soldered lad! Oi oi

I heard a rattling in the boiler...

Tipped it upside down...

Loads of sand and little stones came out  


It must have had it near when he sand blasted it.

The threads are easy ish to resolder, i did one on a pre-war SE2
James

Maybe I'd have got it cheaper if I've have just paid for the SE4, not half of bloody Cleethorpes aswell!!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Maybe I'd have got it cheaper if I've have just paid for the SE4, not half of bloody Cleethorpes aswell!!


Build a sand castle
James

I'll send it back to S4F!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
I'll send it back to S4F!


to ruin it again?  
James

No the sand  

Why would you sand blast a 70 year old toy?

Stupid Yorkshireman  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
No the sand  

Why would you sand blast a 70 year old toy?

Stupid Yorkshireman  


Silly Northener

you're a big boy now, sort it out lad      
Les

Is there any sand in the steam line??
James

Dunno Les!

Eee this bloody screw!
Les

James wrote:
Dunno Les!

Eee this bloody screw!


What you need is a hammer and a durex,  

If you cannot fix it, **** it.
James

steamyjim

bessytractor

OH THE BANTER  
James

Ahh the bloody paint went all cack when I baked the base!  

That's it! I'll bring out le weapon a la secret!

I'll nitromers it down, and spray it with tractor paint with the rate girth airbrush  
steamyjim

AAAAH BLOODY HELL!

Was looking forward to seeing it
Nick

Any pics?
James

Naaa fraid now, I'm rate annoyed and I've vowed I won't look at it again tonight or I'll stamp on it  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Ahh the bloody paint went all cack when I baked the base!  

That's it! I'll bring out le weapon a la secret!

I'll nitromers it down, and spray it with tractor paint with the rate girth airbrush  


Tell me you didn;t chuck it in at like 100 deg c?  
Nick

nope, 200!
James

Let it harden over night, put it in at 50 for half an hour, then 100 for 30mins, then 150 for 30mins, then 200 for 30mins.
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Let it harden over night, put it in at 50 for half an hour, then 100 for 30mins, then 150 for 30mins, then 200 for 30mins.


When did it go "crappy"?  
James

About 5 mins into 200!
bessytractor

oh dear  

sorry to hear that james

just heard your "confession"     what a good laugh!
James

Eh??  
James

Newsflash!

The screw/bolt has come out, and it was the right thread, no damage done  
bessytractor

James wrote:
Newsflash!

The screw/bolt has come out, and it was the right thread, no damage done  


good to hear.

You know, your poem lol.
MamodFan

James wrote:
Let it harden over night, put it in at 50 for half an hour, then 100 for 30mins, then 150 for 30mins, then 200 for 30mins.


Feck me    200 degrees, thats too hot for crappy Halfords Paint. I had some success at 140. You are better off using proper paint, ie not from Halfords
Les

James wrote:
Newsflash!

The screw/bolt has come out, and it was the right thread, no damage done  


 Thumbs up!
James

MM told me that's what should be done, and it worked fine with his, so I did it  

Oooooo me inbred poem!
MamodFan

To give you an idea J, proper stove enamel paint as used originally is baked off at 120. It is very hard and durable.
Car paint is not the ideal paint for stem engines, particularly bases as it is not very resistant to meths. It is good because of the range of colours available though.
Looking at your pics of the base it appears that you have a very thick coat of paint on there, the reflection in the paint around the holes gives it away. Did you spray one heavy coat or several light coats?
James

Loads of light coats!
Mamodman123

200 for the firebox, ive never been above 150 for a base

Its completely heat resistant at that temperature, not sure about meths resistant though....
James

Oh balls, you could have said
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Oh balls, you could have said


you could have asked

think about it lad, the base won't get that hot will it?  

Actually Ive asked MF if he'll get mine stove painted or whatever with the next batch of his engines that way its meths and heat resistant and will last my lifetime (I don't plan on living that long)
James

Well bugger me!! LOL!

How much is that costing you?
MamodFan

one offs are never cheap, especially when they have to colour match paint

waiting for a quote to come back
James

Oh aye! Might end up being a 2 off  
johnreid

This is how you learn isnt it? No real harm done, just some wasted effort, and if you learned something, the effort isnt wasted then is it?
James

Very wise John!

Naaa nowt wasted!

Don't matter either  
Mamodman123

MamodFan wrote:
one offs are never cheap, especially when they have to colour match paint

waiting for a quote to come back


I don't mind paying a reasonable amount aslong as its nothing stupid!

My own peace of mind then  
johnreid

James could probably rerepaint and watch the temperature and end up in good shape if he doesnt want to send it out for work. I wish I never made any errors, but then again I wouldnt know much then either. Keep your chin up mate it isnt all that bad.
bessytractor

James wrote:
MM told me that's what should be done, and it worked fine with his, so I did it  

Oooooo me inbred poem


well I didn't want to shout it out loud  


I thought it literary genius,
James

LOL!

How you heard that?

Thanks John!

I'll make this bugger work some way or another! She will be steaming be weekend for sure!!
bessytractor

James wrote:
LOL!

How you heard that?

Thanks John!

I'll make this bugger work some way or another! She will be steaming be weekend for sure!!


will sent it to me.  Btw I've added you on msn, thought it about time the legend was on my contact list!
James

Oh aye who's that then? Didn't know Fred Dibnah had MSN  
Wallace

Sorry to hear of your troubles James.

Anyway, at least it's all learning.

Just incredible the boiler had sand in it. I warned elswhere that the burner might, but not the boiler  

Still though, looking forward to the progress  
James

Yeah, Ill crank the big girthy spray gun up in a bit and use proper tractor paint!
James

Update!

Base sanded down to bare metal, primed, 1st layer of paint applied. All looks great bar one run on the underside (who cares about that?)  
James

Update!

Base sanded down to bare metal, primed, 1st layer of paint applied. All looks great bar one run on the underside (who cares about that?)  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Update!

Base sanded down to bare metal, primed, 1st layer of paint applied. All looks great bar one run on the underside (who cares about that?)  


Don't take up a career in spraying cars lad, people may care about a run or two
James

If it were on the top I would, but the bottom don't matter, I don't intend to keep it upside down  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
If it were on the top I would, but the bottom don't matter, I don't intend to keep it upside down  


thats funny...nor me  
James

Maybe Chris does, being in Australia  
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Maybe Chris does, being in Australia  


Down under
James

Where men are men and kangaroos are eaten by GJs dogs
tmuir

James wrote:
Where men are men and kangaroos are eaten by GJs dogs


James favourite town in Australia...


Human to sheep ratio is just right for him.  

They used to have another sign that read.
'Welcome to Glendambo
Where men are men
and sheep are afraid'

 
James

LMAO!!
johnreid

I hope you are taking good pictures as you progress, for future reference, and bragging once done
James



No pics ATM, I said I wouldn't go in the garage incase I decide to touch it in any way
James

THE SE4 IS FINISHED!

Not without it's problems though, had to do a few farmer style bodges on it  
Mamodman123

like what?
Nick

Oh boy.            
Les

James wrote:
THE SE4 IS FINISHED!

Not without it's problems though, had to do a few farmer style bodges on it  



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