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Dampfzauberer

REALY BIG HINT ABOUT GERMAN ENGINES

Now heres comes a realy big hint regarding German Engines!

I do not know if somebody alredy knows it, but I feel that i shoud share my knowledge about that

There ist ONE easy method, to check out, if the painting AND the finish of old GERMAN engine is original, or fake

You have to get you a "Schwarzlicht-Lampe", I think it's calles a black-light (actually it glows lila).....
Now you dark your room a little bit, switch the light on, and illuminate the bing, or doll, or marklin or whatever....

Normal Car-Paint stays dark, nothing happens...

But when the painting is original, it glows very cool with the blacklight! Glows green or yellow or red

E.g. my Marklin locomobile with the green base glows in a strong citron-yellow......
The original finished boilers also glow yellow!

So, i Think this should be quite usefull....


PS. i'm sorry, it's not possible for me to photograpf this...
MTA

Thanks for the tip! Although when you said it glows lilac, I think you are talking about an Ultra Violet light?
Dampfzauberer

Yes! thats it, just didn't know how it's called....
Just like the light in disco's
Mamodman123

wow great tip!
James

Wow!

Amazing tip mate!
tmuir

Nice tip.
They must of used minerals in the pigments of the paint that they dont use in modern paints I guess.
Dampfzauberer

No, i think thats not always minerals.
The German Makers finished their engines by coveringin them with Shellac or cellulose lacquer....thats the stuff that glows

Mineral caused are e.g. the red pinstripes on Bing engines.
They contain Zinober, the red paint with mercury in ít...
mc_mc

I wonder if one of these would do the job?

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12-LED-UV-U...ategoryZ36112QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
Dampfzauberer

Yes, these will do it!
Manxman

Right. Put a bid in on one of those lights. I've got a few early German engines I'd like test. Should be fun.
Mamodman123

Manxman wrote:
Right. Put a bid in on one of those lights. I've got a few early German engines I'd like test. Should be fun.


Picture should be interesting
Manxman

I'm not sure how you could do a pic. It has to be dark to show the paint glow but the camera flash would spoil any effect. I guess I could try a pic in the dark without a flash. I'll give it a go when I get a light.
Mamodman123

Manxman wrote:
I'm not sure how you could do a pic. It has to be dark to show the paint glow but the camera flash would spoil any effect. I guess I could try a pic in the dark without a flash. I'll give it a go when I get a light.


Yep thats the trick! ITs like taking a picture of a Tv you need it to be totally dark
tmuir

Set the camera on a tripod, turn off the flash and use the timer to take the photo. That way you will eliminate camera shake and hopefully will get a reasonable photo.
Badger

Its only the ones that were left outside when the Chernobyl cloud came over Europe that glow in the dark!
mc_mc

Manxman wrote:
I'm not sure how you could do a pic. It has to be dark to show the paint glow but the camera flash would spoil any effect. I guess I could try a pic in the dark without a flash. I'll give it a go when I get a light.


Did you ever get the UV torch Manx?
Nick

Has anyone tested and taken a picture of this yet?
mc_mc

I just found these:  http://www.ledshoppe.com/Product/ledp/LP1069.htm

4 UV torches for $3  including shipping!  

I love ledshoppe.com  

I've ordered some,  so now all I need is some old German engines to try them on,  that might be a bit more expensive...  
bessytractor

wow clever stuff!
Kritika

Manxman wrote:
I'm not sure how you could do a pic. It has to be dark to show the paint glow but the camera flash would spoil any effect. I guess I could try a pic in the dark without a flash. I'll give it a go when I get a light.


Just do a video Manx... A midnight matinee      
johnreid

Some cameras, including many digitals are blind to UV light. Some arent too though.
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