Steely
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SteelyHello, my name is Ben Steel, I'm 16 and I love running and collecting model steam engines especially Mamod, Bowman and SEL. I also go to many steam fairs and go to one every other week or sometimes every week.
I also like aeroplanes and I am currently training for my PPL (private pilots licence) as I wish to be a pilot when I get older.
It all started when I was about 12 when I got my first Mamod TWK1 which I still have now, which I bought at a steam fair, and since then I have gradually built up a quite large collection. 
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James
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youre PPL?? that costs thousands dont it?
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Steely
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| admin wrote: | | youre PPL?? that costs thousands dont it? |
Yep, but it will take a long time with small payments. 
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James
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see you can afford that you cant be 16!
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Steely
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| admin wrote: | | see you can afford that you cant be 16! |
It's not as much as you think and I am 16 I promise.
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James
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i know how much it is, my brother was going to do it. he cant afford it but he has a full time well paid job at an NHS hospital! and hes 21 and he cant afford it!
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Mamodman123
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I had a mate that was having lessons at about 200 quid a pop
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Steely
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | I had a mate that was having lessons at about 200 quid a pop |
Well mine are a lot less than that. 
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James
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there you go! i wish it was war and you got trained for free! and you got paid to fly! and you had 20 hours flying in a spitfire before you went up against krauts who had flown maybe 20 sorties! that would have been pretty cool!!
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Mamodman123
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| steely wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | I had a mate that was having lessons at about 200 quid a pop |
Well mine are a lot less than that. |
You got your own private jet? 
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Steely
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | steely wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | I had a mate that was having lessons at about 200 quid a pop |
Well mine are a lot less than that. |
You got your own private jet? |
Errrrrrm.......no.
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James
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no silly mm!! he owns an airline!! steelair
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Steely
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| admin wrote: | | no silly mm!! he owns an airline!! steelair |
I only wish I did at 16. 
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James
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good evening this is your captain speaking youre flying with steelair. i hope you have a nice flight, please enjoy the in flight steamings of the bowmans and my huge collection
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Sandman
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| steely wrote: | | admin wrote: | | no silly mm!! he owns an airline!! steelair |
I only wish I did at 16. |
Erm. Any chance of some cheap flights Steely 
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James
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where to? SHEFFIELD-THE CITY OF STEEL
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Mamodman123
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Not racking up the air miles again are you SM?
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James
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lol
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Steely
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| Sandman wrote: | | steely wrote: | | admin wrote: | | no silly mm!! he owns an airline!! steelair |
I only wish I did at 16. |
Erm. Any chance of some cheap flights Steely |
NO.
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Sandman
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| steely wrote: | | Sandman wrote: | | steely wrote: | | admin wrote: | | no silly mm!! he owns an airline!! steelair |
I only wish I did at 16. |
Erm. Any chance of some cheap flights Steely |
NO. |
Only Asked. Ah well MM. I suppose that boozy weekend to Paris is off now.
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Mamodman123
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indeed........
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James
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wheres the pic steely?
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Steely
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| admin wrote: | | wheres the pic steely? |
I'm sorry James it's not going to happen. I just don't think the internet is a safe place. I trust you guys but you never know who could be lurking around. 
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James
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Its ok, i have banned andy_pedo's addy so he cant come on here. for the love of toby, just send me one in a pm or i wont know what the hell you look like to say hi to!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
are you going to the meet in feb???
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Steely
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I don't think I'm going to the meet no, not sure though, I will probably be at school then anyway. 
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James
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at school on a weekend??
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Steely
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Could you give me details of it and I'll see if I can come, if you want.
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James
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i dont have the details, it is called Steam Toys in action if you search it on google
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Steely
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| admin wrote: | | i dont have the details, it is called Steam Toys in action if you search it on google |
I thought you were organising it?
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James
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yeh but i cant remember the website.
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newellsmamods
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| admin wrote: | | there you go! i wish it was war and you got trained for free! and you got paid to fly! and you had 20 hours flying in a spitfire before you went up against krauts who had flown maybe 20 sorties! that would have been pretty cool!! |
at the end it was less than 7 hours james
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James
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yeh but it was 20 at the start of the battle of britain
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Wallace
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Good luck with the PPl steely.
My mate did his. About 50pound per hour here I think. he got it after 15hrs? Restricted of course. Then got Instrument rating, then commercial licences, then became flying instructor. Now flying coastwatch planes in Norther Australia, looking for illegal fisherman/immigrants.
Poor bloke tried to get into Qantas (International flying). But he realised that they were taking on our Air Force pilots.
Basically, young people at around 18yr old, were joinig the airforce, getting trained as pilots(and paid for it), staying their until about the age of 26 or so, and walking straight into Qantas and becoming airline pilots. Qantas would snap them up in an instant due to skills and flying hours.
Got more money with Qantas too.
Not sure how it works over there, but a consideration maybe?
Me thinks being a air force pilot might be safer than a commercial airline pilot in this current time with all what's going on in the world
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James
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what sort of fighters do you have over there wallace? quantas mostly fly 747's dont they?? has anyone on here heard of Robin hood doncaster sheffield airport?? they used to fly vulcans from there. it is about 30mins away from me, my brother works at the hospital in doncaster. when the planes take off, they are so low, you can see all of the windows and nearly the people inside!! they are flying 747's to america from there soon, and they have already been test flying the new super airbus super jumbo out of there. i saw it the other day flying really low. its huge theyre seeing if the runway is long enough for it, its one of the longest runways in the country
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Wallace
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| admin wrote: | | what sort of fighters do you have over there wallace? quantas mostly fly 747's dont they?? has anyone on here heard of Robin hood doncaster sheffield airport?? they used to fly vulcans from there. it is about 30mins away from me, my brother works at the hospital in doncaster. when the planes take off, they are so low, you can see all of the windows and nearly the people inside!! they are flying 747's to america from there soon, and they have already been test flying the new super airbus super jumbo out of there. i saw it the other day flying really low. its huge theyre seeing if the runway is long enough for it, its one of the longest runways in the country |
The Fighters here are mostly F/111's andFA/18 Hornets. We are getting some new ones soon to replace the current fleet.
Qantas have the 747's, but mostly now there the 767's I think. I not too sure, but they fly everywhere, including the UK
I live in a training area for them. Well not directly a training area, but they fly over here in afternoon/evening/night dogfighting. Good to watch, but they are a little high to get a good view of
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James
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wicked!! we are on the flightpath too. we dont see any dogfighting though  our planes are Tornados, woth the brand new Eurofighter coming in soon. we get all the trainers and things coming over here too. theres no better airforce than the RAF
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Dauntless
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I make parts for the Tornado Flight control surfaces, and parts for the F22 Raptor
plus lots more
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James
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COOL!!!! could you take pics??
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Mamodman123
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| admin wrote: | | COOL!!!! could you take pics?? |
LOL I very much doubt it James!
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Sandman
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| Dauntless wrote: | I make parts for the Tornado Flight control surfaces, and parts for the F22 Raptor
plus lots more |
And we ask you to make threads and such. What an insult.
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James
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can you make me a tornado part?
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oldstuff
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My, my, Ben, but aren't you the popular one? 5 pages and growing!
Do you have any pictures of your models on the forum? Sounds like you have a nice collection! Godspeed getting that ppl so you can fly me across the pond to toast all my buddies. After that we'll gather up as many engines as the plane can carry and fly 'em into Oz for an emergency goodwill drop. Glad to have you on the forum, mate!
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yosa
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I once took a flying lesson Ben. A great experience, stick with it mate. Nice one.
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Steely
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Cheers fellas.
There's plenty of pics of my models on the forum oldstuff. Have a look at the collections thread and the ones started by me should have some pics. I might even do a whole collection thread because it seems to be the in thing at the moment.
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Mamodman123
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Steely, you are a great member to have on these forums. always enjoy seeing the SE3 and the rest of your engines too!
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Steely
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | Steely, you are a great member to have on these forums. always enjoy seeing the SE3 and the rest of your engines too! |
Cheers MM. I can very easily say the same about you and the rest of the members on this forum. We have a very wide range of individuals on here and we all get on together very well. Joining this forum has been a very good decision for me.
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Mamodman123
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| steely wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Steely, you are a great member to have on these forums. always enjoy seeing the SE3 and the rest of your engines too! |
Cheers MM. I can very easily say the same about you and the rest of the members on this forum. We have a very wide range of individuals on here and we all get on together very well. Joining this forum has been a very good decision for me. |
Wouldn't quite be the same without you! and that goes for everyone too!
We have a great bunch of lads on here, and long may it continue to be the best thing since sliced bread..... and SE3's of course
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Steely
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | steely wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | Steely, you are a great member to have on these forums. always enjoy seeing the SE3 and the rest of your engines too! |
Cheers MM. I can very easily say the same about you and the rest of the members on this forum. We have a very wide range of individuals on here and we all get on together very well. Joining this forum has been a very good decision for me. |
Wouldn't quite be the same without you! and that goes for everyone too!
We have a great bunch of lads on here, and long may it continue to be the best thing since sliced bread..... and SE3's of course
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Here here. Long live the steam forum.
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oldstuff
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Steely...your new avatar...Billy Joel?
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MTA
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I thought it was Jeremy Beadle
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Mamodman123
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Watch out Beadles about
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Steely
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Aye it's Jeremy Beadle. The legend that is. The other pic was rubbish. 
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oldstuff
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Who's Jeremy Beadle?
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Mamodman123
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| oldstuff wrote: | | Who's Jeremy Beadle? |
lol he used to do hidden camera shows like that candid camera or whatever it was over there?
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oldstuff
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| Mamodman123 wrote: | | oldstuff wrote: | | Who's Jeremy Beadle? |
lol he used to do hidden camera shows like that candid camera or whatever it was over there? |
So, what Steely's trying to tell us is he's watching us.
Wow James, Candid Camera goes back at least to early 60's...black and white tv days!
Surprised you knew about it!
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Mamodman123
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| oldstuff wrote: | | Mamodman123 wrote: | | oldstuff wrote: | | Who's Jeremy Beadle? |
lol he used to do hidden camera shows like that candid camera or whatever it was over there? |
So, what Steely's trying to tell us is he's watching us.
Wow James, Candid Camera goes back at least to early 60's...black and white tv days!
Surprised you knew about it! |
Ive seen a few bits and pieces, was one about a car they pushed down a hill into a garage with no engine in it? They asked mechanics to fix it or something
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tmuir
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Years ago I was doing my PPL but then I started working country so couldn't finish it.
Had 13 hours flight experience.
The day before I was going to do my first solo they had the first ever fatal accident at Jandakot airport where I was doing my lessons.
A girl doing her first solo came in too low and flew into the trees before the runway.
It had same wind conditions the day I was due to do mine so they cancelled my solo and I just did a regular lesson.
The plane wreckage had been taken away but as you were on final approarch you could see all the tops of the trees snapped off and a big gouge in the ground just before the runway where the plane hit.
It was a bit off putting.
The next week I went country so never got to do my solo.
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oldstuff
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Maybe someone up "there" was watchin' out for you, tmuir.
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SPOKESMAN
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Shocking avatar steels - please change it back!
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Wallace
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I got it right, I was thinking it was Jeremy Beadle, and was going to ask.
Yup, we even got that show here a few years or more back (Beadles about).
Tmuir, you by any chance weren't getting lessons around 1997, 1998? My mate was an instructor at Jandakot around that time.
When he moved back here, he brought heaps of fireworks back for us from WA, as they aren't legal here
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Sandman
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A change of Avatar.
Another cunning ploy to foil us from discovering his secret identity.
Mark my words. The goverment steam spy is still among us.
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Mamodman123
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| Wallace wrote: |
I got it right, I was thinking it was Jeremy Beadle, and was going to ask.
Yup, we even got that show here a few years or more back (Beadles about).
Tmuir, you by any chance weren't getting lessons around 1997, 1998? My mate was an instructor at Jandakot around that time.
When he moved back here, he brought heaps of fireworks back for us from WA, as they aren't legal here |
LOL thats the one Wallace! was over here years ago! maybe even over 15
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tmuir
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| Wallace wrote: |
Tmuir, you by any chance weren't getting lessons around 1997, 1998? My mate was an instructor at Jandakot around that time.
When he moved back here, he brought heaps of fireworks back for us from WA, as they aren't legal here |
No it was earlier than that I was in the UK from 1997 to 2000 it would of been around 1994.
Hang on I'll check my flight log book.....
Last flight I did was in December 5 1992. Wow nearly 14 years ago..
Didn't realise it was that long ago.
Wallace fireworks aren't legal in WA either and havent been since my dad was a kid, sure he didn't get them from the NT?
Got to go for a bit lightning storm coming.
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sparky
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blimey mate 
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Steely
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I can see that Jeremy isn't being liked....it was for a laugh anyway. I'll try and find a new picture that relates to me more.
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Steely
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Is this picture better? It's the aircraft I fly with, Cessna 152.
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oldstuff
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| steely wrote: | | Is this picture better? It's the aircraft I fly with, Cessna 152. |
I like it Steely
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Steely
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| oldstuff wrote: | | steely wrote: | | Is this picture better? It's the aircraft I fly with, Cessna 152. |
I like it Steely |
Cheers. I just fancied a change of pic. The other one was a bit rushed I think. No relevance to me what so ever.
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MTA
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bit higher off the ground maybe!!!
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Wallace
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| tmuir wrote: | | Wallace wrote: |
Tmuir, you by any chance weren't getting lessons around 1997, 1998? My mate was an instructor at Jandakot around that time.
When he moved back here, he brought heaps of fireworks back for us from WA, as they aren't legal here |
No it was earlier than that I was in the UK from 1997 to 2000 it would of been around 1994.
Hang on I'll check my flight log book.....
Last flight I did was in December 5 1992. Wow nearly 14 years ago..
Didn't realise it was that long ago.
Wallace fireworks aren't legal in WA either and havent been since my dad was a kid, sure he didn't get them from the NT?
Got to go for a bit lightning storm coming. |
Thanks for that, just wondering if he might have been the instructor.
I swear he got them from WA, but maybe not. He was in NT for a while, then moved to WA, Jandakot, or near the AP anyway.
Over there you only have to get your car rego checked every 3 yrs, is that right?
All I remember, is he bought some peugot diesel heap, with major rust, but drove it all the way back to here, across Australia.
He didn't even bother regoing it here, it would have never passed
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Wallace
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| steely wrote: | | oldstuff wrote: | | steely wrote: | | Is this picture better? It's the aircraft I fly with, Cessna 152. |
I like it Steely |
Cheers. I just fancied a change of pic. The other one was a bit rushed I think. No relevance to me what so ever. |
Much better Steely. I was going to ask the Beadle relevance.
152 was the first plane I went in with my mate, whos an instructor.
Then a 172, then an Archer.
Finally a Beech twin engine, that was real nice.
Then he got me to go in a aerobat (looked like a 152 but smaller)
I swaer I have seen R/C planes bigger.
I didn't get sick, just nearly had a haeart attack doing all stunts in it.
I haven't been in a plane since, and never will get into a small one again
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Steely
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| Wallace wrote: | | steely wrote: | | oldstuff wrote: | | steely wrote: | | Is this picture better? It's the aircraft I fly with, Cessna 152. |
I like it Steely |
Cheers. I just fancied a change of pic. The other one was a bit rushed I think. No relevance to me what so ever. |
Much better Steely. I was going to ask the Beadle relevance.
152 was the first plane I went in with my mate, whos an instructor.
Then a 172, then an Archer.
Finally a Beech twin engine, that was real nice.
Then he got me to go in a aerobat (looked like a 152 but smaller)
I swaer I have seen R/C planes bigger.
I didn't get sick, just nearly had a haeart attack doing all stunts in it.
I haven't been in a plane since, and never will get into a small one again |
I havn't done any major stunts....yet. Biggest stunt I've done is landing.
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Wallace
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You done the steep turns and stalls yet.
Even they used to scare me
Steep turn was 60degree.
Stall was cut engine revs back, then pull back to get nose of plane up, 'till it stalls, then recover. I had my stomach in my mouth when he first did it.
In the aerobat, the worst was the tailslide.
Just point plane straight up, and go till it runs out of puff. It will stop, then start falling back down. The idea is to then push forward, getting nose of plane facing down, then recover.
I didn't think we'd recover
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Steely
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| Wallace wrote: | You done the steep turns and stalls yet.
Even they used to scare me
Steep turn was 60degree.
Stall was cut engine revs back, then pull back to get nose of plane up, 'till it stalls, then recover. I had my stomach in my mouth when he first did it.
In the aerobat, the worst was the tailslide.
Just point plane straight up, and go till it runs out of puff. It will stop, then start falling back down. The idea is to then push forward, getting nose of plane facing down, then recover.
I didn't think we'd recover |
Yeh I've done the stalls, they don't worry me that much . I havn't done steep turns though...steepest I've done is a standard 30 degrees.
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TE1A_man
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Re: Steely | Steely wrote: | Hello, my name is Ben Steel, I'm 16 and I love running and collecting model steam engines especially Mamod, Bowman and SEL. I also go to many steam fairs and go to one every other week or sometimes every week.
I also like aeroplanes and I am currently training for my PPL (private pilots licence) as I wish to be a pilot when I get older.
It all started when I was about 12 when I got my first Mamod TWK1 which I still have now, which I bought at a steam fair, and since then I have gradually built up a quite large collection. |
Hello steely,
My brother has his private pilots license, and he wanted to continue to commercial license, but college for that is like $200,000 a year. Long story short, he is majoring in computer technology.
Keep up your collection, and keep it as long as you can!!! I hear a lot about people having big collections as a kid, then foolishly selling it all at a garage sale for peanuts, the gets bit by the bug, and weaps over their mistake
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Wallace
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Re: Steely | TE1A_man wrote: | | Steely wrote: | Hello, my name is Ben Steel, I'm 16 and I love running and collecting model steam engines especially Mamod, Bowman and SEL. I also go to many steam fairs and go to one every other week or sometimes every week.
I also like aeroplanes and I am currently training for my PPL (private pilots licence) as I wish to be a pilot when I get older.
It all started when I was about 12 when I got my first Mamod TWK1 which I still have now, which I bought at a steam fair, and since then I have gradually built up a quite large collection. |
Hello steely,
My brother has his private pilots license, and he wanted to continue to commercial license, but college for that is like $200,000 a year. Long story short, he is majoring in computer technology.
Keep up your collection, and keep it as long as you can!!! I hear a lot about people having big collections as a kid, then foolishly selling it all at a garage sale for peanuts, the gets bit by the bug, and weaps over their mistake |
$200,000 a year!!!
Cheaper over here. My mate got his, and it, all up cost him around $30,000 Aus.
That was basic commercial, and from there on he had to get more ratings for different engines to be able to fly certain aircraft.
The costly bit was getting his hours up once he got his PPL to make the eventual transition to Commercial licence.
Of course the ultimate way to do it (here anyway) is join the air force and become a pilot. Then, once you are fully trained, leave the air force and join qantas, then become a international airline pilot, and get more money.
Mind you, I'd prefer the airforce. At least you can shoot back, unlike a airliner
The way the world is going, I think airliners may eventually need weapons
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sparky
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Re: Steely | Wallace wrote: | | TE1A_man wrote: | | Steely wrote: | Hello, my name is Ben Steel, I'm 16 and I love running and collecting model steam engines especially Mamod, Bowman and SEL. I also go to many steam fairs and go to one every other week or sometimes every week.
I also like aeroplanes and I am currently training for my PPL (private pilots licence) as I wish to be a pilot when I get older.
It all started when I was about 12 when I got my first Mamod TWK1 which I still have now, which I bought at a steam fair, and since then I have gradually built up a quite large collection. |
Hello steely,
My brother has his private pilots license, and he wanted to continue to commercial license, but college for that is like $200,000 a year. Long story short, he is majoring in computer technology.
Keep up your collection, and keep it as long as you can!!! I hear a lot about people having big collections as a kid, then foolishly selling it all at a garage sale for peanuts, the gets bit by the bug, and weaps over their mistake |
$200,000 a year!!!
Cheaper over here. My mate got his, and it, all up cost him around $30,000 Aus.
That was basic commercial, and from there on he had to get more ratings for different engines to be able to fly certain aircraft.
The costly bit was getting his hours up once he got his PPL to make the eventual transition to Commercial licence.
Of course the ultimate way to do it (here anyway) is join the air force and become a pilot. Then, once you are fully trained, leave the air force and join qantas, then become a international airline pilot, and get more money.
Mind you, I'd prefer the airforce. At least you can shoot back, unlike a airliner
The way the world is going, I think airliners may eventually need weapons |
yes i know what your saying mate
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Steely
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I just thought I would keep you updated with my flying and the other I did my first solo flight, which was extremely nerve racking but I managed to perform one of my best landings whilst doing it so I'm really chuffed with myself. So now I'm just that little bit closer to getting my ppl.
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Mamodman123
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| Steely wrote: | | I just thought I would keep you updated with my flying and the other I did my first solo flight, which was extremely nerve racking but I managed to perform one of my best landings whilst doing it so I'm really chuffed with myself. So now I'm just that little bit closer to getting my ppl. |
Nice one Steely!
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James
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Well done lad!!
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MTA
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I suppose you need to be a pilot being a steam spy, to look down on events and that 
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MooseMan
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Brilliant mate - well done!
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IndianaRog
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Congrats Steely,
My son is pursuing the same goal...he is up to a rating called "Certified Flight Instructor-Instrumentation"...he is teaching flight now to build hours. At 564 hours last count, it will take a couple more years to reach the 1000-1200 hours it takes to be hired by the commercial airline companies...til then he is flying Cessnas 172 aircraft.
I've been up with him once...fantastic feeling I must say.
cheers,
Rog
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Griffin
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Steely, nice one with the PPL. The wife bought me a trip up in a light aircraft last year, a great experience.
Keep those hours up, and enjoy it
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Steve_S
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That's great Steely, it must be a great feeling to fly like that!
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Wallace
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Well done Steely
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Stilldrillin
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Very well done Steely!
Something I would love to have done, but.
I did have a trial flight once. Flew over my house, and Chesterfield, a few miles away.
There`s a LOT of elbow room up there, compared to driving a car!
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Sandman
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I knew whenever I met you, you were destined to be a high flyer.
Well done mate.
I'm really proud of you.
It will be a lot easier to get round the country in your government official capacity.
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