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Lewis best get saving up then mm Chris That first one is a bit old, so can't be worth much Take along a fiver and see if you can get it for that. SPOKESMAN MM remember the 20% or so buyers premium! Lewis the se1 was part of malins collection Roly Williams What I don't like about these auctions is that the auctioneers extract a hefty buyer's premium - in this case 17.5% + VAT + 2% extra for paying by credit card. Mind you, if this particular item went for it's estimate, I wouldn't mind paying an extra 22.5% OTT!!! Mamodman123 SPOKESMAN wrote: MM remember the 20% or so buyers premium! I won't go stupid on anything Mike! I have my head screwed on when it comes to money. Roly Williams I've placed a bid - well above their estimate but well below mine! You never know - miracles do happen Mamodman123 Roly Williams wrote: I've placed a bid - well above their estimate but well below mine! You never know - miracles do happen On the SE4? I'll be bidding there and then on that and maybe a few others! Roly Williams Mamodman123 wrote: Roly Williams wrote: I've placed a bid - well above their estimate but well below mine! You never know - miracles do happen On the SE4? I'll be bidding there and then on that and maybe a few others! Yes, on the SE4. If you're bidding seriously you'll probably go way above my bid. Good luck. Lewis hope someone gets the se4 on the forum and maybe that se1 Mamodman123 Roly Williams wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Roly Williams wrote: I've placed a bid - well above their estimate but well below mine! You never know - miracles do happen On the SE4? I'll be bidding there and then on that and maybe a few others! Yes, on the SE4. If you're bidding seriously you'll probably go way above my bid. Good luck. Of course seriously! maybe so, i'm not going well over what it's worth. Will go there on the 10th and bid though Lewis hope you get it Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: hope you get it I shall try my best Lewis! Maybe get some cash off my brother too! Lewis i have a feeling you may be up agaist alot of seroius collectors Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: i have a feeling you may be up agaist alot of seroius collectors Bring it on! I'm a serious collector myself. Thankfully the SE4 goes before some of the other flatbases, so if I don't win that, on to the next lot of Mamods Lewis that new job could come in handy mate at the amount your going to put on it Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: that new job could come in handy mate at the amount your going to put on it Don't worry about money believe me Lewis well i hope you get 1 engine on the day at least Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: well i hope you get 1 engine on the day at least I hope so too, that's the best SE4 i've ever seen by a mile! Got to keep my head screwed on though Lewis. I like the look of a few Mamods. The Bowmans don't interest me too much... Lewis have a pop at that malins owned se1 if you lose the se4 Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: have a pop at that malins owned se1 if you lose the se4 I will! there are loads of engines I will be looking at... Lewis good luck MTA Good luck MM, hope you have a blast! Although don't get too heated in the moment Mamodman123 MTA wrote: Good luck MM, hope you have a blast! Although don't get too heated in the moment Cheers MTA! that happened before at a PC auction! I've got enough cash..I can afford the SE4 and a whole lot more.. but I won't go silly on it. Just got to pencil in some back-up plans, and sort my maths out Like I said, if anyone is interested in bidding on anything i'll happily do so! MTA I could probably go, only got to change trains once, but I shan't be bidding on anything so I personally don't see the point in going Mamodman123 MTA wrote: I could probably go, only got to change trains once, but I shan't be bidding on anything so I personally don't see the point in going Some encouragement for me! MTA Bring your brother, and I'll be the little devil in one ear, he'll be the angel in the other Mamodman123 MTA wrote: Bring your brother, and I'll be the little devil in one ear, he'll be the angel in the other LOL Go on Mamodman, a little more! no no too much MTA As your financial advisor, I advise that you paid too much, despite I told you to Mamodman123 MTA wrote: As your financial advisor, I advise that you paid too much, despite I told you to Even if I did pay too much.. it's such a stunner of an engine MTA Got that right, BTW, you have a PM tmuir I can see a couple of MM's se3s coming up on ebay soon. Mamodman123 tmuir wrote: I can see a couple of MM's se3s coming up on ebay soon. No way Tony sparky SPOKESMAN wrote: MM remember the 20% or so buyers premium! yes my dads mate bought a spot on tractor off vectis and it cost him somthing like £520 in the end oldstuff Nicely spotted, Lewis! Well, MM and Roly good luck to you both. But do you guys realize what your dealing with? As MM said, it's one of the nicest ones he's seen. Experienced collectors will tell you to buy the best and that is hard for most because the best costs lots more than the average. Yet, it pays off much better in the long run. Miracles can and do happen, but if they were likely, then they wouldn't be miracles. (warning...oldstuff lecture follows) MM, this is not an event to be repeated again in case you screw it up. Leave the logic at home. If, as you say, you can afford this...then don't leave the place with- out that engine. This is an investment, whatever you end up paying it'll be worth more next year and more than that the following years. But unlike stocks and bonds that sit and grow unseen at the bank, you'll be able to take this one out and steam it, talk about it on the forum, photograph and showcase it on your website. There are times in life you can look back on and remember it was the best you ever felt. Money's not really worth talking about when it comes to that. I'm pulling for you, mate. Just be careful driving home afterward because you'll be high as a kite and thinking about your new engine instead of the road! Mamodman123 Never a truer word spoken Chuck If i get this job at Triumph i'll be spending most of my first pay packet on this engine! If I don't get it then thats destiny I guess On a brighter note my 19 year old car just flew through its MOT without me having to spend a penny on it So i'm pleased Lewis every penny counts mm oldstuff Mamodman123 wrote: On a brighter note my 19 year old car just flew through its MOT without me having to spend a penny on it So i'm pleased Good piece of luck, MM! Maybe it's not luck...maybe you're just a good mechanic? Mamodman123 oldstuff wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: On a brighter note my 19 year old car just flew through its MOT without me having to spend a penny on it So i'm pleased Good piece of luck, MM! Maybe it's not luck...maybe you're just a good mechanic? Not really a good mechanic no, but i take good care of it . It helps that its an absolute minter! Sandman Helps when the bodywork is pristeen MM. Mamodman123 Sandman wrote: Helps when the bodywork is pristeen MM. Sure does SM, sure does Oh and that its made by the living gods...FORD oldstuff Mamodman123 wrote: Sandman wrote: Helps when the bodywork is pristeen MM. Sure does SM, sure does Oh and that its made by the living gods...FORD MOT probably passed you because it was painted Mamod red. mc_mc oldstuff wrote: worth more next year and more than that the following years. But unlike stocks and bonds that sit and grow unseen at the bank, you'll be able to take this one out and steam it Please don't talk about the stockmarket, I've lost over a grand in the last two days with the market plunging as it has. Good luck with the auction! Mamodman123 mc_mc wrote: oldstuff wrote: worth more next year and more than that the following years. But unlike stocks and bonds that sit and grow unseen at the bank, you'll be able to take this one out and steam it Please don't talk about the stockmarket, I've lost over a grand in the last two days with the market plunging as it has. Good luck with the auction! Oh dear.... Cheers, MC! hopefully good news when I return oldstuff mc_mc wrote: Please don't talk about the stockmarket, I've lost over a grand in the last two days with the market plunging as it has. Yeah, I read about that in the paper. Sorry hear this, mc. On the bright side, you're doing well enough to have some money in it, plus it usually works it's way back up again. Roly Williams mc_mc wrote: oldstuff wrote: worth more next year and more than that the following years. But unlike stocks and bonds that sit and grow unseen at the bank, you'll be able to take this one out and steam it Please don't talk about the stockmarket, I've lost over a grand in the last two days with the market plunging as it has. Good luck with the auction! There's always Gambler's Anonimous. If you play the stock market you must accept the ups and downs without complaint. I've no sympathy whatsoever. If you have that much money to spare you should be spending it on something sensible - like steam toys mc_mc Sorry for the off topic post, I'd had a bad day (and a few drinks!). Most of that money is in my pension fund so it's got another 30 years to recover. Just have to look on the bright side: now's a good time to buy! And yes I must get more engines, but I'm not doing it for investment purposes. Unless you count investing in fun as a reason (which sounds pretty good to me!) Wallace mc_mc wrote: Sorry for the off topic post, I'd had a bad day (and a few drinks!). Most of that money is in my pension fund so it's got another 30 years to recover. Just have to look on the bright side: now's a good time to buy! And yes I must get more engines, but I'm not doing it for investment purposes. Unless you count investing in fun as a reason (which sounds pretty good to me!) No need to be sorry mate. Totally agree re investing in engines. Far from the ideal investment, but a hell of a lot of fun. Mamodman123 The investment is just a bonus really! H2o vapour Vicky vectis Auctions - Hi, Check out the rest of the steam stuff at Vectis auction sight - someone's had a a right clear out - some nice clean stuff!! Good Luck!! H20 Vapour Wallace Mamodman123 wrote: The investment is just a bonus really! Very true. I think the best thing re it being a investment is that if you ever get bored of the hobby, or for some reason have to sell them, at least you won't lose money, in most cases. Not that I'm planning to get sick of it flywheel61 As I've said before I did originally buy for investment, but since finding the forum this has changed. There are still some I won't run but I certainly can say running them is a lot more fun than just looking at them, . Not to forget the great company and advice that the forum brings to beginners like me. Cheers Chris Mamodman123 flywheel61 wrote: As I've said before I did originally buy for investment, but since finding the forum this has changed. There are still some I won't run but I certainly can say running them is a lot more fun than just looking at them, . Not to forget the great company and advice that the forum brings to beginners like me. Cheers Chris Beginner? You have half the mamod railway system Chris Darren Mamodman123 wrote: I hope so too, that's the best SE4 i've ever seen by a mile! MM, It's deffo a nice engine, mind you, it's also seem some action i.e the orginal safety valve is no more (& looks like it's been replaced with a 1/4" valve?), the soldering around the steam 'dome' looks a little rough, the counter shaft is wrong, the screw in the burner isn't orginal & the steam pipe/union nut looks a little bent on the piston closest to the boiler. That said, go for it, as the majority of the above is deffo cosmetic & well within your repair capabilities So go for it Darren. Mamodman123 As you said Darren, within my bounderies of repair jobs. I had noticed the small problems, hoipefully it will put a fair few off. That valve is far too small, but thankfully I can sort that out! Cheers for the pointers, the counter shaft is really long SPOKESMAN Darren wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: I hope so too, that's the best SE4 i've ever seen by a mile! MM, It's deffo a nice engine, mind you, it's also seem some action i.e the orginal safety valve is no more (& looks like it's been replaced with a 1/4" valve?), the soldering around the steam 'dome' looks a little rough, the counter shaft is wrong, the screw in the burner isn't orginal & the steam pipe/union nut looks a little bent on the piston closest to the boiler. That said, go for it, as the majority of the above is deffo cosmetic & well within your repair capabilities So go for it Darren. Good points there Darren. Mamodman123 Ahh the SE4, seen that gem in full motion held it too Lewis dont drop it for god sakes mm ive seen it too real good runner Mamodman123 lewisop1991 wrote: dont drop it for god sakes mm ive seen it too real good runner it doesn't help too well whenMike just hands it over Lewis SPOKESMAN Any SE4 is nice - Id take that with its faults . . . who wouldn't!! Mine hasn't go the original whistle . . . but it looks OK. Strange how the base and engine frame are darker - maybe made up from bits!!! Mamodman123 I should think the faults are fixable....Although I'm not going to apply too much heat to the steam dome, does anyone know if these just sit on the boiler or screwed in? If the steam pipe is broken then it will be a little worrying, looks a bit bent on the engine frame SPOKESMAN Disturbingly I have a pic to hand . . . I think they are soldered. Mamodman123 Need to be careful when soldering around there then...If anything I would clamp it on if i'm soldering it I'll see what it goes for on the day, if not then I have a backup Lewis yes a backup mm an engine he wont tell anyone about Mamodman123 We'll see what happens Lewis Knowsnothin First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. fcrammond Don't get too excited about the safety valve bush. Although my SE4 has the larger diameter hexagonal safety valve (p49 in the bible) my SE3 is fitted with a smaller diameter bush that will take the present Mamod valve happily. The 1937-40 SE4 on page 50 seems to be fitted with the same valve as is the minor 1 on the same page. Oddly the SE4 prototype of ?1946 has the larger hexagonal valve. Perhaps it was an old boiler they had lying about. Incidentally all the Bible pictures appear to show a hexagonal level plug whereas both my engines have a small slotted screw. I know al least some of Steves engines were extensively restored and may well have had a more presentable filler plug fitted. Does anyone have any hard evidence one way or the other? Fred mj I'm surprised that the auctioneers couldn't be arsed to wipe the dust & cobwebs off before putting it up for sale SPOKESMAN fcrammond wrote: Don't get too excited about the safety valve bush. Although my SE4 has the larger diameter hexagonal safety valve (p49 in the bible) my SE3 is fitted with a smaller diameter bush that will take the present Mamod valve happily. The 1937-40 SE4 on page 50 seems to be fitted with the same valve as is the minor 1 on the same page. Oddly the SE4 prototype of ?1946 has the larger hexagonal valve. Perhaps it was an old boiler they had lying about. Incidentally all the Bible pictures appear to show a hexagonal level plug whereas both my engines have a small slotted screw. I know al least some of Steves engines were extensively restored and may well have had a more presentable filler plug fitted. Does anyone have any hard evidence one way or the other? Fred When I steam my SE4 if prefer to use an MM1 safety valve which fits a treat. SPOKESMAN As per Fred's SE4 - mine has a slotted dome head screw as an overflow plug. Mamodman123 Well all the engines in the bible, all the SE4's and Hobbies engines had the hexagonal nut for the overflow! Might just be a coincidence Fred? He has one of the first SE4's and that has the hexagonal nut, Mikes the mamod badged SE4, a bit later has the brass screw. Why would they change it? SPOKESMAN These engine were handbuilt pic'n'mix. Mamodman123 SPOKESMAN wrote: These engine were handbuilt pic'n'mix. I suppose so Mike. Can't see why changing will give any advantage though. I suppose you could over tighten the screw? SPOKESMAN Mamodman123 wrote: SPOKESMAN wrote: These engine were handbuilt pic'n'mix. I suppose so Mike. Can't see why changing will give any advantage though. I suppose you could over tighten the screw? Or chew up the head! Wallace Knowsnothin wrote: First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. Is that on the SE4 Mike? I can't see where the highest bidder is Knowsnothin Wallace wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. Is that on the SE4 Mike? I can't see where the highest bidder is Yes Wallace first blood to Australia, You might have to log on the vectris website to see the bidders list......... Mamodman123 Knowsnothin wrote: Wallace wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. Is that on the SE4 Mike? I can't see where the highest bidder is Yes Wallace first blood to Australia, You might have to log on the vectris website to see the bidders list......... Mike, has your SE4 got the 3/8 safety valve or the smaller one? I'm a little worried about it SPOKESMAN MM - mine will take the smaller 1/4"size. Knowsnothin Mamodman123 wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: Wallace wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. Is that on the SE4 Mike? I can't see where the highest bidder is Yes Wallace first blood to Australia, You might have to log on the vectris website to see the bidders list......... Mike, has your SE4 got the 3/8 safety valve or the smaller one? I'm a little worried about it The 3/8 one MM ............ oldstuff Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Spokes has both valves but uses the 1/4" for steaming. SPOKESMAN oldstuff wrote: Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Spokes has both valves but uses the 1/4" for steaming. I do indeed Chuck - I use anMM1 safety valve. SPOKESMAN The SE4 valve is on the extreme left, the MM1 valve is second from right, although the body sizes vary its the base and the thread which is important. Mamodman123 Knowsnothin wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: Wallace wrote: Knowsnothin wrote: First blood goes to Australia with $78 US The high bidder brought, my SE3 last week ............. Is that on the SE4 Mike? I can't see where the highest bidder is Yes Wallace first blood to Australia, You might have to log on the vectris website to see the bidders list......... Mike, has your SE4 got the 3/8 safety valve or the smaller one? I'm a little worried about it The 3/8 one MM ............ But Mikes has the other one SPOKESMAN Aye! Mike can you post up a pic of your SE4 valve? Knowsnothin SPOKESMAN wrote: Aye! Mike can you post up a pic of your SE4 valve? Here you are Mike.......... Looks a little different to yours Mike Mamodman123 Its a funny looking thing Mike, do you think its original? Knowsnothin Mamodman123 wrote: Its a funny looking thing Mike, do you think its original? I hope so MM.... It looks the part Roly Williams Knowsnothin wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Its a funny looking thing Mike, do you think its original? I hope so MM.... It looks the part It looks slightly different from the one in The Bible but it looks more like the ones in the Hobbies adverts. mj My se2 engine & se3 boiler both have the hexagonal type valve, as do the pics that phantom posted a while back. A bit of a mystery, but both hobbies & mamod were very good at using up left over bits n bobs, so it may be just a one off. SPOKESMAN Curious - the main thing is its 3/8" so will it fit the SE3 boiler? Roly Williams SPOKESMAN wrote: Curious - the main thing is its 3/8" so will it fit the SE3 boiler? My SE3 has an odd size safety - something in between the 1/4" and 3/8". Could this be original or a replacement? It looks like the Mamod style. The SE3c, which has a boiler from an SE3, has a 3/8" one.        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> General discussion Page 1, 2  Next Page 1 of 2