TE1A_man
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Serial PortsI know some members have been complaining that their new computers don't have serial ports for lathes and etc..., and that the usb to serial connectors don't work. Well, if you live in america, (or can pay a pretty penny for shipping,) here ya go.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16815158046
Cheapest one i could find, also seems to be the best, despite what it says for compatability, it works on Vista.
two 920Kb/s serial ports, one 1.5Mb/s parallel port, PCI interface.
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johnreid
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THe things I use one for only work in a DOS environment, wish tey would work in Windows, in fact I love USB devices.
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mc_mc
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Have you tried DOS box? it genuinely emulates a DOS operating system on Windows hosts including the hardware. It was written to allow people to run old games, but it does mention serial ports too. It's free anyway so perhaps worth a try.
http://www.dosbox.com/information.php?page=0
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Steve_S
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The problem isn't with software... there are ways around that. The fact is that new PC's just don't have the serial port connector any more. It's becoming a problem in industry where there are lots of pieces of equipment that have plenty of life left in them but they need to be controlled via RS232 protocol from a serial port. The USB/Serial convertors from the likes of Belkin are useful, but they just don't work in some situations. At least, that's my experience.
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tmuir
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| Steve_S wrote: | | The problem isn't with software... there are ways around that. The fact is that new PC's just don't have the serial port connector any more. It's becoming a problem in industry where there are lots of pieces of equipment that have plenty of life left in them but they need to be controlled via RS232 protocol from a serial port. The USB/Serial convertors from the likes of Belkin are useful, but they just don't work in some situations. At least, that's my experience. |
I agree completely with that.
Carrier grade communications equipment generally has a shelf life of atleast 10 years so there are a lot of older equipment out there that still needs serial connections.
On the next step up from that I still have equipement that I communicate with via ethernet technology that uses OSI protocol not TCP/IP.
When I did a cert IV in IT 5 years ago they mentioned the OSI protocol but said 'Don't worry about it you will never see it'
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mc_mc
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You can still get a PCI card that gives you the old serial and parallel ports (and will give you a genuine COM2 port). TE1A_man posted one in his link above.
I thought the problem was the software required DOS and didn't run in 'Windows' DOS emulation'.
At work we have an old OMR reader that's serial but still runs on a modern Windows XP machine with one of those boards. We did manage to get the old DOS software to work and even got it printing to a modern windows network printer (redirected the LPT1 port to the network printer).
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johnreid
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I know someone who bought several Anritsu Sitemasters that seem to only work with a real Serial Port. HE bought all of his people new Laptops, only to find out that they were useless.
No small investment, glad I am no longer in that field of work.
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tmuir
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Yes you can get cards for desktops but a lot of companies IT departments now only want to issue laptops and thats where the real problem is.
When I worked at the railways all the radios in the trains were programmed by a serial connection but worse still the software would only run on 286s.
We asked for $150 000 to upgrade the radio network and got told no, then we showed them the 286 laptop we had with the screen removed as it had 'let out it's moke' connected to a CRT monitor and told the managers 'When this PC stops working, we can no longer maintain the radio network for the trains'
The next day we got our money.
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johnreid
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Arent Motorolas wonderful though
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tmuir
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| johnreid wrote: | Arent Motorolas wonderful though  |
Is that what happens when you park your car on the hill and the handbreak fails.
I wasn't in the radio section but worked with them and helped them out.
The biggest problem we had was users adding their own accessories to the radios and either stuffing the radios or jamming on the transmit and then when their radio got hot and the battery went flat after 30 mins instead of reporting their radio faulty they would just put another battery in it.
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Mister Occlusion
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ebay is probably a source for cheap com port cards too. I buy stuff direct from HK and it still costs a fraction of what the exact same, or rebranded part sells for locally (if you can find it).
I use the USB to serial for programming switches from the laptop. I tried one on a custodian's PC once, since we've been switching them over from dumb terminals to hyperterminal in windows for running the HVAC controls, but it was glitchy. Had to get a cheap com port card for that. And being that it was a cheap com port card it was also a royal bastard to install, even AFTER I sourced the proper drivers.
Getting hard to find decent interface cards these days. Many seem to be made in fabs with so-so quality control using the cheapest no-name chips in the business, or rubbish that comes out of the likes of Via and Realtek
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