Archive for The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum The Original Toy Steam Forum Established 2006 The biggest, most popular global steam forum around! Accept NO imitations! We have a growing community of regular posting members who chat about all aspects of toy and model steam.          The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Restorations dooly Shed found Mamod traction engine .. to restore or not Hi all .. just found this traction engine in an old shed and it is a "little" mucky. I am wondering if i should just clean it down or restore it .. as i dont want to destroy it if it is a rare type or something .. what do you think .. cheers m8dave Give it a good clean loose nut 45 That looks like an early TE (bolted not riveted) that will clean up a real treat!! Cmon what are you waiting for you lucky bugger!!! Les Clean it and run it.   Roly Williams Hi dooly and welcome to the forum. That's a nice early version of TE1 you have, rarer than the later versions but not extremely rare. Clean it up first and see what it looks like before deciding. You might need to repaint the rusted parts in order to protect them. Pete the steam Not really rare but a very good find. Clean it, oil it, steam it and let's see it when you've done it   Celsius 100 Welcome to the Forum.Will look different again once it has been cleaned. dooly thanks for the warm welcome .. taken your advice and degreased it here are the pictures Pete the steam Is that a flat roof canopy??? m8dave Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? looks like it to me Roly Williams That looks a lot better already. If it was mine, I'd repaint the canopy and possibly the back end of the firebox. The rest looks not too bad. Wallace Nice engine. That did clean up nice.   If it were mine I'd get onto treating the canopy rust and painting it. But obviously it's up to you.   You could certainly paint the whole lot, but paint loss on the boiler and smokebox won't lead to corrosion Good find and welcome to the forum dooly Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? it is slightly arched ? is that important ? guess the concensus is that i can do no harm to it if i restore it .. Pete the steam Quote: dooly wrote: Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? it is slightly arched ? is that important ? guess the concensus is that i can do no harm to it if i restore it .. No mate, It's just the later canopies were ribbed. ministeamer dooly wrote: Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? it is slightly arched ? is that important ? guess the concensus is that i can do no harm to it if i restore it .. It should be arched, the 'flat roof' refers to the absence of the ribbed design of the roof on later (I believe) models. dooly Pete the steam wrote: Quote: dooly wrote: Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? it is slightly arched ? is that important ? guess the concensus is that i can do no harm to it if i restore it .. No mate, It's just the later canopies were ribbed. thanks understand now .. looked it up on the forum and it seems like mine could be from the 1960's ? dooly ? i see that it should have had some decals on the edge of the canopy  .. this one has very faintly Iron Duke .. can you get replacements ? MrMamod Now that looks the dog's dangles just a brush down and polish and a bonus flat roof canopy - Been in my shed and i can't for the life of me find one of them am i looking in the wrong shed     .. Celsius 100 Well that certainly has improved the way it looks.I would spray paint the canopy.Halfords "Rover White" is a close match to the original colour. Les m8dave wrote: Pete the steam wrote: Is that a flat roof canopy??? looks like it to me And me, and it has cleaned up well.     mrborinator Definitely a great barn find .. Enjoy steaming. Rob. dooly well its in parts the true condition shows up strange thing happened when i put the stripper on ? not sure if it was painted brown before or something else is going on Dr. Rog An excellent early example that's worth preserving. The keen collectors would pay double for one of those over the later ones.  Sometimes more. The brown stuff looks like classic tin-worm. Mamod used a cheap powder coat paint most of the time and it looks like it has penetrated deep under the paint. I suggest a very good scrub with wire brush and wool, or alternatively electrolysis, followed by a good chemical treatment prior to painting with a rust inhibiting primer and top coat. The TE1 is well regarded on the forum due to the great speed they can achieve.     dooly Dr. Rog wrote: An excellent early example that's worth preserving. The keen collectors would pay double for one of those over the later ones.  Sometimes more. The brown stuff looks like classic tin-worm. Mamod used a cheap powder coat paint most of the time and it looks like it has penetrated deep under the paint. I suggest a very good scrub with wire brush and wool, or alternatively electrolysis, followed by a good chemical treatment prior to painting with a rust inhibiting primer and top coat. The TE1 is well regarded on the forum due to the great speed they can achieve.     Great information and thanks .. i have worked out a treatment for it and it seems to be working dooly Here it is halfway through the treatment for the "tin worm" .. saves loads of time unlike using sand paper etc. and no scratches to polish out   m8dave dooly wrote: Here it is halfway through the treatment for the "tin worm" .. saves loads of time unlike using sand paper etc. and no scratches to polish out   wow what did you use on that steaminon Can I have it.  I will take very good care of it.   Welcome.   What a fantastic find you have there. dooly I have no idea what it is .. my dads a chemist and he gave me it .. said it would do the job and it seems like he knows his stuff Les dooly wrote: Here it is halfway through the treatment for the "tin worm" .. saves loads of time unlike using sand paper etc. and no scratches to polish out   That is cleaning up quite nicely.     Camst648 Hello   Interesting tread And warm welcome to the forum, Dooly Mr.Mamod_396 Excellent find a nut and bolt flat canopy TE1 dating from 1963. It would of originaly had the transfers "MAMOD STEAM TRACTOR" across both sides of the canopy between the screws. nissan boy i have noticed the crank has been changed to a later thick on and the flywheel has drill but not fully through as the end is still thin and also the the crank supports have been drilled out to fit the thick crank Mamodman123 Rare flat canopy model. You can get the transfers from steam4fun if I remember correctly   Mr.Mamod_396 Thats weird just noticed that the crankshaft is different than the early brass painted crankshafts used on the early TE's from 1963/1964. Looks like the plain crankshaft used on the 1965 and on version. Also the shaft is thicker unlike the thinner early crankshafts with "MAMOD" embosed on them, never seen that before is this another variation of the 1963 TE or is it a motification someone decided to do?  Anyone else noticed this? Here is a example of what im talking about (notice the crankshaft) on the 1963 TE1 with "MAMOD" embosed on it and thinner shaft: Wallace dooly wrote: I have no idea what it is .. my dads a chemist and he gave me it .. said it would do the job and it seems like he knows his stuff Hey that's coming up well. Good stuff Celsius 100 Wallace wrote: dooly wrote: I have no idea what it is .. my dads a chemist and he gave me it .. said it would do the job and it seems like he knows his stuff Hey that's coming up well. Good stuff Most likely a phosphoric acid treatment process. dooly nissan boy wrote: i have noticed the crank has been changed to a later thick on and the flywheel has drill but not fully through as the end is still thin and also the the crank supports have been drilled out to fit the thick crank interesting .. the crank suports do not seem like they were drilled out after manufacture .. i wonder if they used parts they had left when producing the thicker later ones ? dooly the fire box is the next part which was in bad condition so time to sort it out good job as well as the tin worm had gotten the this as well dooly stripped the chimney as the paint was flaking off and when i got it off i thought lets sort the casting lines out .. what do you think dooly Mamodman123 wrote: Rare flat canopy model. You can get the transfers from steam4fun if I remember correctly   cheers .. found these on ebay are they the right ones ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-WATE...hash=item5d2b1fff5b#ht_3335wt_952 Paul Re: Shed found Mamod traction engine .. to restore or not dooly wrote: Hi all .. just found this traction engine in an old shed and it is a "little" mucky. I am wondering if i should just clean it down or restore it .. as i dont want to destroy it if it is a rare type or something .. what do you think .. cheers dooly Well the rain has stopped play with the spraying but managed to get these ok so i think its time to see if i can do anything with the box Paul Re: Shed found Mamod traction engine .. to restore or not dooly wrote: Hi all .. just found this traction engine in an old shed and it is a "little" mucky. I am wondering if i should just clean it down or restore it .. as i dont want to destroy it if it is a rare type or something .. what do you think .. cheers  That looks like an old Te1, nut and bolt model. Give it a clean and run it. What a lucky find MrMamod dooly wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Rare flat canopy model. You can get the transfers from steam4fun if I remember correctly   cheers .. found these on ebay are they the right ones ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-WATE...hash=item5d2b1fff5b#ht_3335wt_952 NO those are NOT the right ones they are for the Mamod Wagon/Lorry.. dooly MrMamod wrote: dooly wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Rare flat canopy model. You can get the transfers from steam4fun if I remember correctly   cheers .. found these on ebay are they the right ones ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-WATE...hash=item5d2b1fff5b#ht_3335wt_952 NO those are NOT the right ones they are for the Mamod Wagon/Lorry.. cheers will keep looking Wallace The scuttle and smokebox have come up very nice too   Dr. Rog dooly wrote: MrMamod wrote: dooly wrote: Mamodman123 wrote: Rare flat canopy model. You can get the transfers from steam4fun if I remember correctly   cheers .. found these on ebay are they the right ones ? http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/16-WATE...hash=item5d2b1fff5b#ht_3335wt_952 NO those are NOT the right ones they are for the Mamod Wagon/Lorry.. cheers will keep looking I wouldn't bother, there is not a trace of any original decals on the canopy, so its difficult to say for sure it ever had any. Such minor variation is possible. The fat crank shaft is probably a replacement. The thin ones wear appreciably and wear the frame, and are also easily bent, so the easiest fix is to fit a "modern" one. The chimney looks great for having its flash line removed, well done. I have "improved" some, but clearly the full strip and spin round works very well. I look forward to the finished result     TE1DRIVER wow excellent progress and a cracking shed find too all i find in my shed are spiders BK Not being a Mamod fan/expert, were philips head screw the norm for that era?? xlchainsaw excellent resto dooly.....i did note that the "o" ring on the saftey valve is cactus  ....best to put a new  one on. Mamodman123 BK wrote: Not being a Mamod fan/expert, were philips head screw the norm for that era?? Yes dooly Sorry for no further pictures but it has rained for the last few days and i cannot get any spraying done    the box is looking a lot better.. come on the sun MODmanMax Welcome. You don't normally see them in such good original condition and with all the bits, you even have the box and the instructions. It is quite a find. Its in good shape for 50 years. The best thing is it is not pristine so you can happily run it which is what it was made for. Just make sure you make a video so we can all enjoy it. Dr. Rog Mamodman123 wrote: BK wrote: Not being a Mamod fan/expert, were philips head screw the norm for that era?? Yes I don't think pozi-drives and the rest had been invented at that time.   dooly Hi all .. had major problems with the painting of the canopy .. never mind the rain but had to strip it twice due to dog hair and once where our lass managed to hit it with the hover while the paint was curing   well done what i am gong to do with it .. but i will start a new post with before and after shots cheers all for the input and to all who have offered to give it a new home        The Unofficial Mamod and Other Steam Forum Forum Index -> Restorations Page 1 of 1