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scorpion2nz

Shed Invaders Damn Elves

My shed has been invaded the last few nights with some elves that can not read plans or they have very small rulers and they have left me with the following

it looks like i have to do the finishing.
to give you some idea of size  their mesurements are half the size of the plans ie the square blocks at the back are 5/8th inch and the oval beam is 2 1/4 inch.
johnreid

Looks like this is going to be a thread worth watching
MooseMan

Ooooh I like your elves....mine just empty out the biscuit tin!    
metalhead100

My elves just drink all my Meths and crunch on esbit like they are potato chips....

Are they making double the needed parts or are they laminating the beams?

Jim
Graham-Jilly

I wish we had elves that left us nice pressies
27ace27

my elves stole my SE1a burner!  
Les

Is this TWO beam engines in the making???
igy569

You have my attention.....
scorpion2nz

and the chocolate fish goes to


Les wrote:
Is this TWO beam engines in the making???


damn elves can not read plans so made them half size but realized they did not use all the brass available  so thought they would double the parts    just to give me more work  
Sandman

When did these Elves appear Dennis??

Just how many drinks did you have at the time???    

Seriously mate, I bet that will be a beauty.
Stilldrillin

You have helpful elves?  

I only have spiders, who hide things!  

Good luck with the builds......
robertosala

 

No idea what are you talking about.
I will keep an eye on this one....


Rob
Burnmafingers

That pictures a tease!
What are the bits going to become?
tmuir

If you don't like the elves ship them to my workshop.
I've got lots of things they can do at night.  

I like beam engines and look forward to seeing this one be built.
johnreid

MooseMan wrote:
Ooooh I like your elves....mine just empty out the biscuit tin!    


They even take the tin here  
metalhead100

Les ,

I get half the fish I asked/figured it to be doubles first  

Jim
scorpion2nz

Burnmafingers wrote:
That pictures a tease!
What are the bits going to become?


have a look at this thread and you will see the first beam i built
the flywheel is 4 inches and the beam 4 1/2 inches
but this one the elves are building is half size ???

http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about21473.html&highlight=
scorpion2nz

metalhead100 wrote:
Les ,

I get half the fish I asked/figured it to be doubles first  

Jim

but you suggested laminating would would suggest 1 engine  but we will give you a couple of brownie points  
Bugsy

Do you think that when the trolls arrive to eat the elves they might build a double-sized engine with an 8 inch flywheel and a nine inch beam?
scorpion2nz

Bugsy wrote:
Do you think that when the trolls arrive to eat the elves they might build a double-sized engine with an 8 inch flywheel and a nine inch beam?


well i had better look out then as I live in Norsewood and the village mascots are Trolls (Norwegian heritage)
But I think trolls might have to work in something other than brass
scorpion2nz

any way the elves have been back under cover of darkness and produced some more bits

so i thought i would interfere and do a temporary partial assembly


and to give you some idea of the size  
Les

  That is small, the elves surely have been busy.  
scorpion2nz

all those brass rods have to threaded yet but i will not be making nuts (those 2 you can see are just temps)as some little miscreant found my cc and according to my email I have some nuts coming from the UK
Stilldrillin

scorpion2nz wrote:
all those brass rods have to threaded yet but i will not be making nuts (those 2 you can see are just temps)as some little miscreant found my cc and according to my email I have some nuts coming from the UK


Your elves can use a credit card!  

I have a wife who`s still struggling to learn that skill!  
Roly Williams

Stilldrillin wrote:
scorpion2nz wrote:
all those brass rods have to threaded yet but i will not be making nuts (those 2 you can see are just temps)as some little miscreant found my cc and according to my email I have some nuts coming from the UK


Your elves can use a credit card!  

I have a wife who`s still struggling to learn that skill!  

Lucky you
Caprice

27ace27 wrote:
my elves stole my SE1a burner!  


Must be Ocean elves, I guess?  
Burnmafingers

Oooh, thats diddly.
scorpion2nz

well the elves heard about the postal problems in the UK and decided to make the nuts  needed for the engines over the last couple of nights  and they have now completed all that is needed  and what do you think arrived in the mail today ??
Just the nuts that were ordered  . they were posted on 23rd  and arrived here on the 31st
 I am beginning to think the little leprechaun "Murphy" had something to do with it!!  
Les

scorpion2nz wrote:
well the elves heard about the postal problems in the UK and decided to make the nuts  needed for the engines over the last couple of nights  and they have now completed all that is needed  and what do you think arrived in the mail today ??
Just the nuts that were ordered  . they were posted on 23rd  and arrived here on the 31st
 I am beginning to think the little leprechaun "Murphy" had something to do with it!!  


 
scorpion2nz

well the elves have been busy and made some parallel links
and whats is more surprising is that it moves up and down smoothly
any way i have sneak a couple of photos.




hope fully now that  I am inside they will under cover of darkness  make another four links
I did learn a little trick today
when making little nuts and screws or grub screws  it pays to sneak inside and grab a white sheet to lay on the bench and floor  it makes finding 3mm bits easy    
Keith S

Scorpion, are you making your own nuts and screws because it is difficult to find the correct size, or just because you have the technology and it is fun?
scorpion2nz

Keith S wrote:
Scorpion, are you making your own nuts and screws because it is difficult to find the correct size, or just because you have the technology and it is fun?


is it fun      not really  but there is a sense of achievement.
over here in NZ  it appears to be impossible to find what I want  there maybe bits in Auckland (6 hour Drive)or Wellington (3 hour drive)and i have an aversion to metric
I do have the technology (tools yes, ability well !!)
and also like most people being on a budget        being able to save money by making bits  means there is more money to buy engines    
I have always been a hands on person and a bit of a bush mechanic/engineer
mostly self taught  from reading books
Keith S

Well, I admire that. AND, when someone asks you if you made it you can say,

Yes. ALL of it.
scorpion2nz

well the elves have been making some progress
here we have two beams  on a temporary stand
the correct height will be established once they complete the cylinders

scorpion2nz

they have built 1 crankshaft with the eccentric cam


Les

They are very industrious elves you have there.  
Sandman

Les wrote:
They are very industrious elves you have there.  


And talented.    
johnreid

looking good
TE1DRIVER

my lord those elves really know their stuff! I like how this is progressing
27ace27

looking good! can't wait for the finished product! BTW, my elves had a change of heart and gave my SE1a burner back! that really made my day.
Minor1PJG

Wow, they've been busy.  There work to a high standard  
metalhead100

Sure looks the part!

Jim
mogogear

Those busy Keeblers--and I just thought they made crackers
scorpion2nz

well now we have a problem
   
the elves have found the meths and they are drinking it      now as we all know it makes you go blind !!
which will explain the problem they have created for me
the little beggars made a mistake with the base for the cylinder  



so I think they will have to come back and try again
   
Sandman

That's all you need mate. Drunken elves.

Lock up the meths from now on.    

Seriously though, it's a bugger when that happens.
TE1DRIVER

next thing you know is the elves will be asking for sick pay, duvet days and workers rights lol. Meths potent for elves!   Hope you get it sorted matey
Les

Just lock away all forms of alcohol with a promise of a treat when they have finished the engines.  
Burnmafingers

Don't be too hard on the elves or they may be inclined to call in the union!
xlchainsaw

excellent dennis success breeds success so you might be able to entice santas elves to lend a hand after the xmas rush...they normally have a month or two off after xmas and might be after a free drink of meths????? just a thought.
scorpion2nz

well progress has been a little slow lately .I have heard all sorts of mutterings and strange non steam related words emanating from the shed at night .Apparently the damn engine they had assembled would not run on air    
Any way today some one had a brain seizure What the heck? was he thinking and decided to drill/ream out the steam lines from inlet to cylinder out
and any way we ended up with this



the crescent/spanner in the front is 4 inch
Bugsy

That ran very well!
Clever little buggers, them elves!
Les

Those elves have done a fine job.  
Roly Williams

Whatever they did - it worked. Well done Elves

That must be an old radio you have in the background - 1960's?
scorpion2nz

the radio in the back ground which I forgot to turn down is SolidGold fm they only play real music  from the 60s and 70s

http://www.grownups.co.nz/solidgoldfm.

that is real music you can understand and sing along to  unlike todays crap in which the singers rely on exposing their body in videos in order to get people to watch and listen.
scorpion2nz

well the blasted elves can go home ant time they like as there is something wrong with their handy work
this is the second engine they were building and they attempted to get this one on Steam and it is unsatisfactory in my opinion

SlideValve

 Wow that looks great    I wish i could build something as nice  
Les

scorpion2nz wrote:
well the blasted elves can go home ant time they like as there is something wrong with their handy work
this is the second engine they were building and they attempted to get this one on Steam and it is unsatisfactory in my opinion



I agree, they should keep making them until they get it right.  

Wow, that's great, does this mean the elves can have a Christmas holiday now??    
scorpion2nz

about the elves  I do not know
they made a very nice vertical boiler (copper) would look very sexy if polished up  but it was to small for the beam so now a oscillator is needed to make use of it .
ministeamer

scorpion2nz wrote:
well the blasted elves can go home ant time they like as there is something wrong with their handy work
this is the second engine they were building and they attempted to get this one on Steam and it is unsatisfactory in my opinion


If you think it is unsatisfactory, I can relieve it from your hands...
Stilldrillin

scorpion2nz wrote:
well the blasted elves can go home ant time they like as there is something wrong with their handy work
this is the second engine they were building and they attempted to get this one on Steam and it is unsatisfactory in my opinion



Well...... I have to stand up for the little guys on the night shift!

It`s all much too easy to blame the "other shift", when things go wrong......

A little fine tuning by the day shift will soon have it singing.....  


Blummin well done, that man!  
scalex

great job Dennis
gremlin

really nice job that, I like it a lot
scorpion2nz

OK   I had a word with the elves  about all the leaks and they disassembled engine and replaced the piston packing with a rubber o ring  and replaced the head and base gaskets and replaced the spring on the rotary valve  and it appears the little blighters are playing games with me 'It appears I have a "Fixed Cylinder Oscillating
Beam Engine""   either that or the timing is f....up

ministeamer

scorpion2nz wrote:
OK   I had a word with the elves  about all the leaks and they disassembled engine and replaced the piston packing with a rubber o ring  and replaced the head and base gaskets and replaced the spring on the rotary valve  and it appears the little blighters are playing games with me 'It appears I have a "Fixed Cylinder Oscillating
Beam Engine""   either that or the timing is f....up


That's so cool! .. And so annoying...
scorpion2nz

the only reason it slows down and stops is because some nameless person keeps twiddling with the air supply    
ministeamer

scorpion2nz wrote:
the only reason it slows down and stops is because some nameless person keeps twiddling with the air supply    

Ah. The non-entire-revolution effect is interesting though..
Sandman

Looks great to me.    

I'm not very technical Dennis.

Why do you think the timing's not right???
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