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| loose nut 45 |
Single action colt 45 blank firer restorationHiI have been given a replica blank firing Nickel plate Colt 45 single action army revolver by a friend. The cocking action is not working and upon investigation there is a broken "sear and bolt " spring inside. Does anyone know where I can get my hands on a replacement part as I would love to get some 9mm blank shells into this baby and give it a go! The shell ejector rod and spring are also missing but wont stop it working and I may figure out how to make a rough replacement. |
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| Dean W |
Who made it? If it's one of the Italian replica brands, you may be able to buy parts for it. Uberti, Pedersoli, etc. | ||
| loose nut 45 |
After online research I have found out that its Japanese. Made around 1978 and fire's 22 blank shells. 
I have also been advised online this evening that standard colt sear springs and firing pin will fit it and apparently its worth fully working around £150 trade and up to £250 retail. 
I have no reason to doubt the info unless someone else can say otherwise. 2 similar ones sold on 2 different sites, 1 for £175 and the other with holster and belt for £250, both used models. pic attached 
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| Dean W |
I would take this with a grain of salt, especially about the firing pin. The real Colt .45 is a center fire cartridge, and all the little .22's are rim fire. The firing pins look much different. I don't know what the sear spring in your replica looks like. The one in a real Colt, (called the sear/bolt spring) is a leaf spring. It's under the trigger guard, just in front of the trigger, and pushes up on the cylinder bolt. Looks like a fork with two tines as I recall. |
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| loose nut 45 |
You are right about the spring it looks just like this one.
The firing pin screws into the hammer and appears to be positioned for a rimfire shot and not the centre.
I have tried a .22 long case shell but its a bit of a loose fit, what might be the correct calibre? |
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| Dean W |
That's how it would have to be for this replica, since it uses .22 blanks. They are rimfire shells. Colt did make a .22 New Frontier. It was similar to the 1873 Model P, but newly tooled for the new model. There are many different parts in the Frontier compared to the Model P. Maybe the NF will exchange some parts, (but I doubt it). |
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| loose nut 45 |
I have tried a .22 long case shell but its a bit of a loose fit, what might be the correct calibre? | ||
| Dean W |
I can't say without the gun sitting in front of me. There are a number of blank case sizes. Probably 40 different kinds. There are a number of proprietary blank sizes, too, made so they won't fit into real guns, and mainly so real cartridges won't fit into fake guns. The one you have looks a lot like it is cast zinc, so it may have been made for certain shells in order to keep people from putting in real cartridges and blowing the cylinder apart. There are a lot of odd things particular to blank guns. Best thing would be to measure the chamber sizes on the cylinder. |
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| Wallace |
Hope you can get it sorted. A mate of mine runs a business supplying blank firing weapons to the film/tv industry.
I directed him to this thread in the hope he could help. He seems to think it is designed to take stage cartridges especially if it's made of alloy. Is the barrel completly blocked? If so, and designed in that nothing would come out of the barrely then it's more than likely designed to take the stage cartridges. Whatever you do don't put in a regular blank cartridge until you find out for sure. It's a neat looking revolver 
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| loose nut 45 |
The barrel is blocked (as made) and the chambers have reduced outlets on the front so I believe this is referred to as "a side venting model" Any further info from any direction would be appreciated. |
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| loose nut 45 |
The cartridge chambers are lines with thick brass sleeves and I think this is to allow blank firing of some type? | ||
| Wallace |
Hi Loosenut.
Via email he corrected my post by saying there are models that take stage blanks and can front fire but if it is cast alloy and side venting it is more than likely not designed to take full blanks which could explain the looser fitting .22 round that you tried. The stage cartridges are not only shorter in length but also a bit different in diameter and of lower sound level but still loud. The are pretty much designed for close proximity or use in front of a live audience where sound levels will not damage unprotected ears Some models can accept a full blank but not meant to and can cause injury if loaded with full blanks Full blanks are the same calibre as live ammunition and only the content varies (sound, muzzle flash or smoke depending on what is needed) He also said it could be a plug fire cap gun, it might be worth trying these guys http://www.plugfirecapgunsuk.com/ as they could help you out Good luck 
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| Dean W |
That link from Andrew sells the same brand of replicas as the one you have here. Looks like you may be in business. | ||
| loose nut 45 |
I have sent an email to them quoting maker model and year of manufacture and we shall see what comes back, its looking promising.  Thanks to my fellow forum members for their help and input so far.
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