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James

Slowest engine!

Righty ho guys and gals

I just thought. Let's do a competition.

Each member can enter ONE engine into the slowest running engine catagory. We find the slowest engine from each country, and we do a "slowest engine run off" for like slowest engine in Europe, and in the world etc etc.

Rules are as follows

1) The engine must be a TOY engine
2) The engine must be working under steam pressure from it's own boiler and burner.
3) The engine must be able to run on it's own at a slow speed, without the constant moving of the regulator.



Happy steaming!!
James

My entry is coming up.
steamyjim

Im deciding what to enter.

It cant be a stuart can it
James

Nope. Only like Mamod, Wilesco and the small end Jensen type thing. And any other makes that have the same simplicity.

HERE IS MY ENTRY

Dampfzauberer

I will enter my Schoenner lokomobile

....Germany: 12 Points
Lewis

HOLLY CRAP THATS SLOW
steamyjim

What about toys that are compliacted or built to a high standard like Basset Lowke?

Like a D32? (not that i have one
James

Not a D32... that's basically a model!



Anyone care to challenge my D22?
Mamodman123

It's slow very slow but not very "smooth"
James

Oh well

It's SLOWEST not SMOOTHEST

I bet it could get one of the smoothest too
rangerssteamtoys

To me thats not what I would call "Running", I would call running wher the engine maintains a constant speed unlike your D-22 which was more of a speed up,slow down, speed up,slow down,speed up,slow down,

To me it need to be more of a chug chug chug chug chug chug with the exception of a moderat slowdown for our slide valve engines but not that much.

Not trying to get you " disqualified " or anything but it needs to be steady.
James

Aye it is steady like. And it is moving the pistons under it's own steam!
Mamodman123

Maybe more of a constant speed?
James

You can all be quite welcome to do the same as I did....
steamyjim

A D32 is a toy.

JUST A GURT BIG UN
Mamodman123

James wrote:
You can all be quite welcome to do the same as I did....


I'll still lose
James

Quit your jabbering then
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Quit your jabbering then


Oi lad don't give me any of that lip!
James

SillyBilly

I agree with Ranger, it should have to have a constant speed
James

Ok, but you can do the same if you can get your engine to do it!

It is still keeping going under it's own steam and it is still turning!!! It ain't stopped therefore it is a RUNNING engine!
Mamodman123

Not easy to maintain a constant slow speed I must admit
rangerssteamtoys

Mamodman123 wrote:
Not easy to maintain a constant slow speed I must admit


Yes I know that thats why I started up this discussion, so maybe he would give in and lighten up there for you mamod fans can have a fighting chance. I got some tweeking to do on my engine when I get home.

But now the secrets out
Lewis

my sp6 is pretty slow

not as slow as james' d22 though
Mamodman123

rangerssteamtoys wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Not easy to maintain a constant slow speed I must admit


Yes I know that thats why I started up this discussion, so maybe he would give in and lighten up there for you mamod fans can have a fighting chance. I got some tweeking to do on my engine when I get home.

But now the secrets out




I'm going to struggle to get it under 60 rpm

Out of my league, I wonder if an SE3 would go slower with an exhaust throttle instead of a steam throttle
rangerssteamtoys

I may have a few tricks up my sleeve, Shooting
James

Errrr there are rules in this contest
Mamodman123

rangerssteamtoys wrote:
I may have a few tricks up my sleeve, Shooting




Oil it a lot?
James

Come on America, Australia, Germany etc etc Get them entries in
SillyBilly

Surely you have already made Germany win, as they built your engine?
Mamodman123

SillyBilly wrote:
Surely you have already made Germany win, as they built your engine?


Aye! that's true!
James

Do I live in Germany?

NO
Mamodman123

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tSjAznxdMR0

Aint bad for a Mahood
SillyBilly

James wrote:
Do I live in Germany?

NO

But it was built in Germany, just 'cos it's in the UK doesn't mean that that is what makes it slow. All other Wilescos of this model can travel at the same speed, so if their outside of the UK, how do you choose the winner?
James

It's the person who can get their engine to run the slowest!
Wallace

I'll get one up around Saturday


I'll be far off winning I think. James's is a goodun

Been too windy to fire engines here
James

Which engine you gonna fire Wallace? The SE3?
Wallace

Was going to, for a slow engine, but if MM can't get a SE3 going slower, there is no way I can

So was thinking of the 48SE2

It might go slow
James

Aye! The flatbases nearly always go dead slow. My 1949 SE2 does. Ticks over nicely!
Mamodman123

Wallace wrote:
Was going to, for a slow engine, but if MM can't get a SE3 going slower, there is no way I can

So was thinking of the 48SE2

It might go slow


With a heavier flywheel it probably would, or is that cheating?
James

Ooooh yeah

The engine can't have upgrades or mods or anything.

Things like burners don't count though. You can use whatever gives you a slower run. Solid fuel, meths, gas etc
James

Ooooh yeah

The engine can't have upgrades or mods or anything.

Things like burners don't count though. You can use whatever gives you a slower run. Solid fuel, meths, gas etc
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Ooooh yeah

The engine can't have upgrades or mods or anything.

Things like burners don't count though. You can use whatever gives you a slower run. Solid fuel, meths, gas etc


Because you used meths on your D22 you mean?
James

*cough*
Mamodman123

James wrote:
*cough*


I've caught him out again
James

How could ya? I weren't batting, I were bowling!
Mamodman123

James wrote:
How could ya? I weren't batting, I were bowling!


I'm always one step ahead or two steps back
James

Aye! That be you you lazy git
rangerssteamtoys

Looks like quite a competition
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Aye! That be you you lazy git


James

Bored now I am
Mamodman123

James wrote:
Bored now I am


Go to sleep lad! OR...

Fire the showmans or better still fire that damn poppy
James

I lost the cab back off Poppy
Mamodman123

James wrote:
I lost the cab back off Poppy


That aint no excuse lad!

MTA's lost a complete cab, don't worry about it
James

LMFAO!!
SillyBilly

http://youtube.com/watch?v=agOlT5eJACs Not as slow, but pretty darn slow compared to some engines.
bessytractor

may i ask, does the Hornby Rocket count? I would class it as a toy, seeing as it only runs on about 10 psi. I have a film of it very slowly turning over which I could enter.

and may I say SillyBilly, how much I enjoyed the spiderpig banner? When I saw that trailer, i couldn't help but sing that line occassionally! Look out, he is a spider pig!!!

cheers

matt
James

That could be the slowest loco

Then we need slowest mobile

and slowest stationary
toxx

Slowest D409

H'llo, lasses and lads!
Found this on youtube. A nice wee boy manhandling a Wilesco D409 - shows how sturdy the little tractor is. It does kinda break my heart, though, that the roof has been removed. Watch the little movie! You'll love this kid and his steam tractor ...
Cheers, says Tom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GfazgH7Veis
James

OMG what has he done to it?!?!?!

Buy a traction engine if you don't want a canopy

Sounds southern and posh... you can't tell that type. Best to have us people with deep voices... northerners!
Dampfzauberer

What a weenie
Needs gloves to handle a wilesco...wow

I feel sorry for that engine.....
rangerssteamtoys

Dampfzauberer wrote:
What a weenie
Needs gloves to handle a wilesco...wow

I feel sorry for that engine.....


Yeah, I agree I have played arond with fire since I was about 3 so i burned my hands so much over the years I can pick up things that are that my friends cant.
steamyjim

Im always buring myself with engines.
steamyjim

All part of the fun
Lewis

dont ask me what i have done with fire
steamyjim

I set fire to a table at rallys
Lewis

i burned a hole in my keyboard
i set fire to genrally anything when i have a lighter

i have
Made countless aerosols explode
Poured a whole bottle of white spirit onto a garden fire bad burned the washing
Threw a full bottle of meths onto a fire
Made jets out of emtpty meths bottles

steamyjim

Lewis


only ever been burned by my engines though
steamyjim

I got a huge burn from a Fowler K7 ploughing engines injector steam pipe.

Litteraly filled the gap between my thumb and finger on my left hand with a huge blister
Lewis

steamyjim wrote:
I got a huge burn from a Fowler K7 ploughing engines injector steam pipe.

Literally filled the gap between my thumb and finger on my left hand with a huge blister


there nothing good about getting burns

absolutely cane
steamyjim

I swore very loudly when this happened

Then jumped off the engine and ran the tender water tap on it
Lewis

steamyjim wrote:
I swore very loudly when this happened

Then jumped off the engine and ran the tender water tap on it

best thing to do cold water
my mate burnt his hand on a BBQ and he rushed in and washed it with HOT water alot of cursing
rangerssteamtoys

I made a fire in a cooking pan and melted a hole in the bottom
Lewis

rangerssteamtoys wrote:
I made a fire in a cooking pan and melted a hole in the bottom


LMAO
steamyjim

I currently have a burn on my arm from the condense shooting out of the SL1

DAMMED THING
Lewis

steamyjim wrote:
I currently have a burn on my arm from the condense shooting out of the SL1

DAMMED THING


hot water dosent really burn as much as a hot metal part though
steamyjim

No but there was a lot of this

Id say there was enough from the hole run to fill the boiler again

And it only went up the track once or twice.

Got some vids of these unssucesful (but first) runs of the SL1 probally dont want to see them though
rangerssteamtoys

Depends on how hot the water is, I also burned my arm with boiling hot grease when I was about 6 or 7. It HURT!!!!!!!!!!!! it left a little scar wich I can still se today. My most current burn ouucred when I was running my mamod steam tractor, a flame came out of the firebox and heated up the whistle loop. Then I came over and grabbed the heck out of it and burned my finger which left a little circle.
steamyjim

Now you see why people wanted mamod engines banned in the late 70s

Thank god they werent... where would we be today- its unthinkable
Lewis

get lost those who wanted to ban steam toys

i think with steam they should expect the user is going to be burned occasionally
rangerssteamtoys

We would all have wilescos, and this fourm would be Unofficial wilesco and Other Steam Forum, simply because wilescos have plastic whistle handles.
Lewis

some mamods have plastic handles

a few sore fingetips never hurt anyone eh
Sandman

Lewis wrote:
get lost those who wanted to ban steam toys

i think with steam they should expect the user is going to be burned occasionally


Yep Lew.

I got burned recently myself.

I bought a Griffin and George SE3 and it turned out to be a fake.
Lewis

Sandman wrote:
Lewis wrote:
get lost those who wanted to ban steam toys

i think with steam they should expect the user is going to be burned occasionally


Yep Lew.

I got burned recently myself.

I bought a Griffin and George SE3 and it turned out to be a fake.


why what was fake about it ?
did someone take of the throttle ? and say i was a G+G?
Sandman

He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.
Lewis

Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with
Sandman

Lewis wrote:
Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with


Handy for spares Lew.
Lewis

Sandman wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with


Handy for spares Lew.

aye
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with


Handy for spares Lew.



Send it this way and i'll have her soldered up and ready to go
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with


Handy for spares Lew.



Send it this way and i'll have her soldered up and ready to go


Stuck it below the bench and haven't looked at it since.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
Lewis wrote:
Sandman wrote:
He described it as a G+G on ebay and I bought it at the last minute cause it was cheap without looking.

Cost me next to nothing though.

Was just a worn out SE3.


was if it was cheap then ok but if it was dear then i would be pretty anoyed

still you got an se3 to play with


Handy for spares Lew.



Send it this way and i'll have her soldered up and ready to go


Stuck it below the bench and haven't looked at it since.



Bring her out Sandy, and lets have a looky
Sandman

I'll dig it out tomorrow.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
I'll dig it out tomorrow.




If you need a boiler repairing i'll do it for you

Or better still, give it a try yourself, it will get you going on the whole end cap removal.

SE3 boilers are the easiest to re-do
Sandman

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
I'll dig it out tomorrow.




If you need a boiler repairing i'll do it for you

Or better still, give it a try yourself, it will get you going on the whole end cap removal.

SE3 boilers are the easiest to re-do


I think the boiler is OK MM.

I think it's just tatty and missing its chimney and burner.

I'll check.
Mamodman123

Sandman wrote:
Mamodman123 wrote:
Sandman wrote:
I'll dig it out tomorrow.




If you need a boiler repairing i'll do it for you

Or better still, give it a try yourself, it will get you going on the whole end cap removal.

SE3 boilers are the easiest to re-do


I think the boiler is OK MM.

I think it's just tatty and missing its chimney and burner.

I'll check.


All too familiar Sandy!

I say, clean and restore then fire the buggery out of it
rangerssteamtoys

Here is a video for the sloest MOBILE engine, we should have classes, mamod, wilesco and other mine is for wilesco gear driven slowest and fastest. You will never beat me in the fastest mobile belt driven.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NlXs_cM9q2o
James

Mine can go slower than that
rangerssteamtoys

I bet I can get mine to do better aht that but youll never beat me for fastest wilesco steam roller

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IYdfp76MF6w
steamyjim

Does the engine have to be runnong under its own steam?

I would enter my mercer but i dont steam it, but run it on air
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