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superbiker_uk
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Sorry not a steam engine - E D 3.46 SERIES 5 MARINE DIESELI have just finished doing a strip and restoration of this lovely little 1960's/70's R/C Diesel Water Cooled Marine Engine. I removed it from that bargain basement 42" Faiery Huntsman I picked up on e-bay for £10.49. It took over a month to be sent to me. I am sure the seller did not want me to have it! The boat (now it has arrived) looks horrible though. Some one has taken a period built model Huntsman, modified it and dawbed red paint all over it (this included the engine!). The main mods are new deck work and cabin stuck over the original stuff. I am in the process of removing all the modification and turning it into a half decent model (hopefully). I think it will turn out OK - just needs time, patience and ur..money I will be putting it away soon to get back on with my steam projects but for now here is the engine:
I am trying to find someone with set up / user instructions for this engine - does anyone on here know how to run one of these things?
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mogogear
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Nice clean up job..I can't help on any info but I sure think those little diesels are nice..any picks of your boat?
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igy569
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I would love to see a vid of that running....
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MamodFan
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Oh, not seen a black crankcase ED Hunter before, is it original?
Diesels or more accurately compression ignition engines use a fuel mix of ether, paraffin and oil in various quantities.
I have one or two in my collection, I even made one
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Kaleb
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| MamodFan wrote: | Oh, not seen a black crankcase ED Hunter before, is it original?
Diesels or more accurately compression ignition engines use a fuel mix of ether, paraffin and oil in various quantities.
I have one or two in my collection, I even made one
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Could you use ordinary diesel fuel to run these engines?
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MamodFan
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| Kaleb wrote: | | MamodFan wrote: | Oh, not seen a black crankcase ED Hunter before, is it original?
Diesels or more accurately compression ignition engines use a fuel mix of ether, paraffin and oil in various quantities.
I have one or two in my collection, I even made one
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Could you use ordinary diesel fuel to run these engines? |
No, it is not volatile enough
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superbiker_uk
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| Quote: | | Oh, not seen a black crankcase ED Hunter before, is it original? |
The engine crankcase as it came to me had a thick layer of red paint on it! I was looking around on the net and found out that it was an ED Hunter engine and saw one with a black crankcase so copied that. I think it looks quite neat this way.
I was going to join up on a model boat forum but have not yet as I just know if I did I would neglect my steam projects even more
I have already done quite a bit of work on the Huntsman. I have now sourced a petrol strimmer engine for the boat (should be fun fitting that) but was still wondering about how this ED engine is run. Any advice / tips / instructions you can pass on Ian?
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H2o vapour
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Hi Ian,
That's a blast from the past !!
I still have a couple of old engines in the garage, I had such fun with them when I was young, very fond memories.
I was never able to afford a monster like that, though. What I think you have there is a really nice cobination. A better combination would be a Taplin Twin in the boat, but that's a bit to much to ask for.
As to runing them, I had more experiance with smaller engines , but used to go to the boat club and use and start these bigger engines. They are very nice to run and not difficult.
I only enquired a couple of weeks ago about fuel for the deisel engines, as I have been thinking of getting something up and running. I undertsand that it is available off the shelf at some model shops and is available on order anyway. It is a mixture of castor oil, methonal and either (the stuff used to knock people out with), don't put anything else near it!! I have a number of old wooden boats and can remember them well form my childhood. I do collect them and always on the look out for more.
To get this running is not difficult, it would be best in the hull and on water as you will need water cooling, but you could rig up a water system to feed into the cylinder jacket. If you were to run it I would suggest that you take this precaution.
That done, you will need to make a secure test bed, with pulling on the flywheel and the power of the thing running it will need to be substantial. Don't go near a vice as this will crush the case and mark the lugs.
When you have the water feed and a solid bed, fuel tank and some sort of mechanisum to control the throttle, you are ready for the starting (the fun bit).This is not difficult, the needle needs to be wound in and them opened around 3 turns. This will need adjustment but this is a good opening setting, you will need to take the compression right off so that the engine turns fairly freely. With the carb closed, (idle) you will need to turn the engine over with a piece of string or better still an old leather boot lace, you could also use a aero prop, which may stop the need for water cooling , but be careful on that.
You will then need to prime the engine with a little fuel in the carb(still closed), as it goes in and you trun the engine over you will notice the compression increase. To start the engine you will need to increase the compression with the screw on the top very gradully untill the engine fires when turning the flywheel with the leather cord. When it fires it should go and continue to run, you will then need to tune the engine for better performance and opening the carb to increase / decrease the running speed.
THAT'S ABOUT IT !!
Hope this helps
H2o
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MamodFan
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No methanol in diesel fuel only glow fuel, ask in your local model shop for Model Technics D2000, a good general fuel for larger engines, D1000 is better for small engines.
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superbiker_uk
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Thanks H2o and Thanks Ian for your advice. I will look to get this litlle engine running at some point. The water cooling set up on the huntsman is pretty simple with a water scoop just aft of the prop. I am picking up a small strimmer engine next week as I was thinking that this would be more powerful and easier to run - also no need for special fuel. But thanks for all the starting / running advice. This is a great place to learn things - not just about steam either.
Regards, Peter
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Stilldrillin
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By ek! There`s a few memories there!
I had, ED Baby (2off), Bee (3off), Comp Special (2off), Racer, Mills .75, Frog 1.5.
Always wanted a Taplin Twin.
I think the schoolboy mix was 1 part ether, 2 castor oil, 4 paraffin.....
VERY happy days.....
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superbiker_uk
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Stilldrillin - you might like this link http://www.modelenginenews.org/cardfile/ed_story.html
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Stilldrillin
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Thanks for that! MANY happy memories there.
I`ve gone all misty eyed now......
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H2o vapour
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Hi Guys,
Brilliant article on Model Engines,
By the way Peter, If you are at Steam Toys in Action In Feb, would just love to have a go at getting the engine started !!
H2o
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