Lewis
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SP2got this sp2 from mm for 22 quid and i hope to get it back to how it used to be as you can see it is a very rough example
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tmuir
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All doable but I think thats more than one nights work. 
Making up the steam pipe and soldering it onto the engine frame can be a trying job but atleast its only 1 not 3 like on the Te1a s
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Lewis
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i have a pipe tmuir it needs soldering on 
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SPOKESMAN
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Good luck. 
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Mamodman123
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Well Lewis, you wanted a challenge 
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Lewis
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it will be a beast when done
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SPOKESMAN
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I admire your deidication Lew!
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Lewis
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Lewis
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so would you say the base needs repainting or a good t cut becauase its all there the paint just very sicky and muckky
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Mamodman123
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | | so would you say the base needs repainting or a good t cut becauase its all there the paint just very sicky and muckky |
Try T-cut first Lewis, if that fails repaint
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SPOKESMAN
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In my view the engine is too far gone, in my opinion. The base if the paint is sounf but dirty should T-cut up OK.
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Lewis
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mike no engine is too far gone EVER 
ok the base will need a repaint because under the dirt the colour has gone its now bright orange.
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SPOKESMAN
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | mike no engine is too far gone EVER
ok the base will need a repaint because under the dirt the colour has gone its now bright orange. |
Mmm, Ill beg to differ there! 
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James
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What if somebody buggered off with the engine, leaving only the firebox, say. Would that engine be too far gone?
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Lewis
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nope because you can get hold of the parts needed
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James
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If it was a MM2 twin and only original parts was allowed
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Lewis
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then id either make new parts for it or keep it as it is
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James
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Keep a fire box as it is?
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Lewis
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yep
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Mamodman123
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That engine isn't too far gone as the boiler is sound!
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Lewis
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when im done the whole thing will be great the only bad things o it are the crome sides and they arent that bad just trust me guys it will be a great engine when done
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Mamodman123
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | | when im done the whole thing will be great the only bad things o it are the crome sides and they arent that bad just trust me guys it will be a great engine when done |
Look forward to the finsihed result Lewis
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Lewis
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wont be for a while though
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James
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I'll sum this engine up.
Mechanically tis sound
Cosmetically it has loads of jip
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Mamodman123
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| James wrote: | I'll sum this engine up.
Mechanically tis sound
Cosmetically it has loads of jip
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Yup I suppose that's right. Thankfully it's a simple engine, couple of small easy solder jobs and it's back in business
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SPOKESMAN
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | | wont be for a while though |
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Wallace
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Good luck with it Lewis. It'll be great to do and learn from it.
Should come up just nicely
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SPOKESMAN
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | | when im done the whole thing will be great the only bad things o it are the crome sides and they arent that bad just trust me guys it will be a great engine when done |
You can obtain chrome firebox sides Lew - Im sure I have seen them on ebay!
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Lewis
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aye but i may be able to use the originals once they have had a good clean
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Lewis
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base has been sanded down today
was going to start painting but i havent got any primer so i will get some tonight or tomorrow
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Mamodman123
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | base has been sanded down today
was going to start painting but i havent got any primer so i will get some tonight or tomorrow |
you're cracking on with them Lewis
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Lewis
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i only need to paint the base and front firebox support
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Roly Williams
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | base has been sanded down today
was going to start painting but i havent got any primer so i will get some tonight or tomorrow |
Do you find the primer makes a lot of difference?
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James
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I don't. I done some with and some without. I can't find much difference.
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Mamodman123
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| Roly Williams wrote: | | lewisop1991 wrote: | base has been sanded down today
was going to start painting but i havent got any primer so i will get some tonight or tomorrow |
Do you find the primer makes a lot of difference? |
I don't find it does on well prepared metal.
I always use it though, sort of the right steps. I'd use it on a base to fill out slight imperfections
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Lewis
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dunno i always use primer to make sure i get the best finish
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MTA
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On the big stuff you ALWAYS use primer, it also helps when you decide on whether it needs a repaint or not, if you can see the primer, repaint! The primer also acts as a barrier of sorts, so the top coat doesn't affect the material...
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Mamodman123
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| MTA wrote: | | On the big stuff you ALWAYS use primer, it also helps when you decide on whether it needs a repaint or not, if you can see the primer, repaint! The primer also acts as a barrier of sorts, so the top coat doesn't affect the material... |
So in other words, use it
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MTA
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(begins to nod)
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Mamodman123
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| MTA wrote: | | (begins to nod) |
Yes, it's for the best, just follow the instructions on the can. Can't go far wrong then
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James
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You only use it because you are upper class MTA!
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Sandman
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| James wrote: | | You only use it because you are upper class MTA! |
Where do you buy this posh primer ?????
Harrods???
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James
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I can't wait for STIA 2008. Going to be hilarious if MTA goes
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Mamodman123
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| Sandman wrote: | | James wrote: | | You only use it because you are upper class MTA! |
Where do you buy this posh primer ?????
Harrods??? |
'I'm really posh'
You sure are MTA
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SPOKESMAN
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| MTA wrote: | | On the big stuff you ALWAYS use primer, it also helps when you decide on whether it needs a repaint or not, if you can see the primer, repaint! The primer also acts as a barrier of sorts, so the top coat doesn't affect the material... |
Pretty obvious really.
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James
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MTA! I see you changed your signature
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Sandman
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Back to topic again re primer.
A little tip.
If you're restoring a rather badly corroded base and you just can't remove all the pitting by sanding, try a couple of thick coats of primer filler before ordinary primer.
You'll get a finish like a babies bum.
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SPOKESMAN
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Soft as well as smooth?
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Mamodman123
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| Sandman wrote: | Back to topic again re primer.
A little tip.
If you're restoring a rather badly corroded base and you just can't remove all the pitting by sanding, try a couple of thick coats of primer filler before ordinary primer.
You'll get a finish like a babies bum. |
I've used that before! came out pretty well SM!
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Lewis
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base has been fully rubbed down
silicones hve been removed using white spirit
so later ill start priming
byt the way i got the right paint its called vauxhall flame red of somit
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Chris
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| Sandman wrote: | Back to topic again re primer.
A little tip.
If you're restoring a rather badly corroded base and you just can't remove all the pitting by sanding, try a couple of thick coats of primer filler before ordinary primer.
You'll get a finish like a babies bum. |
What? Covered in cr*p? Asks the man with a nine week old baby.
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James
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SPOKESMAN
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| Chris wrote: | | Sandman wrote: | Back to topic again re primer.
A little tip.
If you're restoring a rather badly corroded base and you just can't remove all the pitting by sanding, try a couple of thick coats of primer filler before ordinary primer.
You'll get a finish like a babies bum. |
What? Covered in cr*p? Asks the man with a nine week old baby. |
Poooeeeyyyy.
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Lewis
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base done and started the firebox support
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SPOKESMAN
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Looking better Lew!
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Mamodman123
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Now thats looking brilliant Lewis! Just goes to show what can be achieved with a bit of time and effort
Lewis if you are interested in getting the stickers for the base you can buy them from Chas! good luck mate
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Lewis
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dont think im going to put the stickers back on
i have saved them both though
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Wallace
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Coming up real nicel Lewis
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Lewis
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cheers wal
hope that will be it for the painting 
next clean up the boiler its a right dirty thing
the only major prob i say there would be is the crome sides and the soldering but that soldering shouldent be too hard to do
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Mamodman123
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | cheers wal
hope that will be it for the painting
next clean up the boiler its a right dirty thing
the only major prob i say there would be is the crome sides and the soldering but that soldering shouldent be too hard to do |
Its all good practice Lewis! As people know bodged soldering can look unsightly!
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yosa
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I have a man in Nuneaton who takes care of that sort of thing.
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Mamodman123
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| yosa wrote: | | I have a man in Nuneaton who takes care of that sort of thing. |
Me too
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Lewis
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just soaked the dremel head in car and day martin metal polish
the result is staggeringly fast polishing
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Graham-Jilly
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Great job and very interesting to read about it stage by stage. Thanks Lewis
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SPOKESMAN
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | just soaked the dremel head in car and day martin metal polish
the result is staggeringly fast polishing |
Look forward to the results Lew.
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Lewis
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fronjt engine frame has finished being painted
jobs left to do
make all the brass shiny half done boiler left
crome sides and burner i will do at a later time
solder pipe
reassemble
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SPOKESMAN
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Are you taking pics as you go along Lew?
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Lewis
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yep ill upload a few a little later
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SPOKESMAN
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Good stuff - I want to see a before and after!
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Lewis
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its taken four hours just to get the main body of the boiler brass again
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Lewis
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jut took some pics will upload them soon
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Mamodman123
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Look forward to seeing them LEwis
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Lewis
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uploading now
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SPOKESMAN
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Good stuff!
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Lewis
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progress so far
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Mamodman123
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Looking great Lewis!
A million times better than when I had it
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SPOKESMAN
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Looking good lew, the firebox sides need the most work?
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Lewis
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aye its the crome sides that are worst
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Mamodman123
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| lewisop1991 wrote: | | aye its the crome sides that are worst |
You can pick them up off ebay from time to time Lewis
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Graham-Jilly
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looking good lewis
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Wallace
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Very nice work Lewis
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Lewis
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may have a crack at soldering the peipe today
need to go and buy some solder
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Lewis
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got some solder
it is a thick plumbing solder and is lead free
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Roly Williams
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| Lewis wrote: | got some solder
it is a thick plumbing solder and is lead free |
You'll need flux as well - special flux for lead free solder.
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Lewis
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aye i have some normal flux
ill give it ago later and then when i pressure test it we will see whats its like
by the way its not silver solder and it is a 99c grade
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Lewis
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it is made from this apparently
99.5 per cent tin, 0.5 per cent copper
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Roly Williams
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| Lewis wrote: | aye i have some normal flux
ill give it ago later and then when i pressure test it we will see whats its like
by the way its not silver solder and it is a 99c grade |
Ordinary flux might work - give it a try. When I bought some Lead free solder from B&Q, on the same shelf there was the same brand flux labeled "flux for lead free solder" so I just assumed it was special flux. It might not be, of course.
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oldstuff
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Great pics, Lewis. I admire your tenacity. Is Oatey brand solder and flux available
over there? I use their silver plumber's solder and either their #5 lead-free
soldering paste or #95 lead-free tinning flux. Takes a bit more heat, this silver
solder but it's incredibly strong.
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Lewis
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the crome sides are now done pic uploading before and after
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Lewis
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2 hours polishing later those horrible rusted crome sides are back to normal i havent recromed them i just polished them
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SPOKESMAN
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Better Lew, though some the real bad corrosion is practically impossible to remove.
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Lewis
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aye the fronts are best the backs are ok now but still bad corrosion in some places
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Mamodman123
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Sides are looking a lot lot better LEwis Don't forget I remember what they were like before
Really you should use LEAD based solder! You can get it here as my old man uses it for plumbling!
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Lewis
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god in hell i have just solderd the pipe the top bit to the engine frame went well
the boiler the solder is so strong the blowtourch wondent shift it i had to poke it in with a screw driver
its looks ok and is incredibly solid should be fine
although i hope it gets mms aproveval 
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Lewis
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Its finished
pics a little later guys
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Mamodman123
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| Lewis wrote: | god in hell i have just solderd the pipe the top bit to the engine frame went well
the boiler the solder is so strong the blowtourch wondent shift it i had to poke it in with a screw driver
its looks ok and is incredibly solid should be fine
although i hope it gets mms aproveval |
Sounds interesting LEwis! Aslong as its steam tight it'll be fine
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Lewis
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im uploading the pics of the finsihed engine guys hang on a while and they will be hear
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Mamodman123
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| Lewis wrote: | | im uploading the pics of the finsihed engine guys hang on a while and they will be hear |
FINISHED?
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Lewis
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aye its done the pics are uploading now
the only thing left is the burner to clean
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Mamodman123
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| Lewis wrote: | aye its done the pics are uploading now
the only thing left is the burner to clean |
you got the chimney aswell?
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