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RocDoc
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Looking really good Mo. I did think about doing the same sort of thing on my Seahawk but wasn't very confident about drilling holes in the new plugs. I had visions of the plugs coming out of the hull again. Hence I went down the plastic pipe route.
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mogogear
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| MooseMan wrote: | Fantastic Mo! I may have mentioned mixing sawdust with glue a couple of times, but I NEVER thought of mixing it with resin - you can claim that one as your own without any pangs 
I'll definitely try that one out next time I need a hole filling. |
I do not know if I would do just sawdust and resin for a hole repair alone, but added to the resin encasing a plugged hole seemed like a good idea. I had also used the same method with epoxy to glue the brass threaded inserts in place for various mounting locations
( boiler drip pan and engine hold-down brackets).
My plan is still to use the stainless steel rubber washers ( they are larger than the repaired holes) on either side of the repair to clamp down and seal off the repair......
That is the plan in theory!! Fingers crossed
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oldstuff
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Great stuff, mo. It's gonna look and run great.
I see MooseMan(Mr. Snipe)is nearby and at the ready!
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mogogear
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| RocDoc wrote: | Looking really good Mo. I did think about doing the same sort of thing on my Seahawk but wasn't very confident about drilling holes in the new plugs. I had visions of the plugs coming out of the hull again. Hence I went down the plastic pipe route.
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I am really hoping the resin( with sawdust for more fiber content) reinforcing the wood plugs will be as strong if not stronger than before. Then with the slightly larger diameter rubberized stainless steel washers "splinting" the repaired area.
It will raise the base of the boiler bracket 3mm higher than it was before but hopefully not throw off the geometry of the boiler and engine and steam pipe too much.
Color matching will be done on the blue water line color to touch up the area just around the repairs but it should be nothing extensive. Perhaps as little as 5% of the bottom will bet touched up.
I also used the resin to coat the inside corners of the rear transom area as well as the front most inside bow. So coating any weak seams that might fail in the future.
After the touch up paint, I will use a clear coat over the full hull , much like you did Rocdoc.
What did you use for your "clear coat"?
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RocDoc
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| mogogear wrote: |
After the touch up paint, I will use a clear coat over the full hull , much like you did Rocdoc.
What did you use for your "clear coat"? |
Mooseman suggested I use Japlac clear varnish:
http://www.international-paints.c...php?productid=112&surfaceid=7
And use one of those brushes with guaranteed no bristle loss. Dead easy to apply (even for me) and drys pretty quick.
One word of caution ... the varnish don't like direct heat. After running the Seahawk at the STiA, I noticed that some varnish had blistered on the bottom of the hull in the region of the burner. Minor damage ... easy to repair.
It was my fault ... I was having ... unprotected steaming ... I wasn't using a burner cradle or silver foil as protection. We live and learn.
Looking forward to more photos.
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johnreid
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So many Varnishes and other clear finished do not like heat or water, it would be well worth the trouble to do ones homework first and find the right product.
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mogogear
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Yes after my fast jump on to the primer on boat #1 - and needing to remove that, I am much more prudent before I coat something.
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mogogear
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Ok the next steps were to drill out the holes in the hull repairs and then seal the insides of the holes- Being careful to thwart water at every turn!! I also then applied resin to the inside of the holes. What will go into the holes to secure hardware will be shown later.
We are finally at the exterior finishing stages- YEA
With heavy consulting with pro-boat-folk, I decided to use a 600grit WD sand paper to insure good adhesion wiped with a damp paper towel and then used a tack cloth.
I chose a water base polyurethane finish by Varethane- the exterior rated one -and semi gloss was my preference -bout $14 hUSD / Qrt.( I did want a product by United Gilsonite Labs(UGL)- called ZAR - a exterior marine grade- but it was not to be found except online..
I applied with a simple foam brush as per product instructions.
NO shaking!!! No bubbles wanted- it does ask to stir thoroughly, so I did!! 
So these are some shots of the first coat 2 hours after application.
You can see where I had paint damage - mainly along the edges if the hull. I used Testors brand enamel paint and hand mixed my best color match. Unlike Moose- the color match people I visited said they would need a square inch of paint!!!! to use in the machine.. GULP-
So I applied three coats of color that I adjusted my recipe on after drying and then 24 hours later tried to improve. The complete loss of paint left some deep craters- so the 3 coats help level the surface to some degree. I only had to touch up about 3 square inches total on the whole boat.. but it was small ribbons along most edges.. the paint was very intact over all, but elsewhere the paint was very loose - so I removed the loose flakes. I didn't paint the hole repairs in the hull- I wanted them to not be camouflaged and I can assess if they are staying compromised.
In all fairness - the paint actually matches much, much better to the eye than it does in the photos- I am actually very happy on how close I got-- so There!!
The repair plugs will be covered up by the washer and small screws that will be installed later.
Now for the parting shots- an aside- you may or may not have know the Pope has come to the US this week... after I was finished coating the hull- and I was taking the pictures- I noticed that divine guidance had occurred- I had chosen a very special edition of our local newspaper... I know that now my hull will sail for many years with the final blessing it received today while I was coating it..just to make sure - I turned the hull over so all sides would receive the blessing equally
This is all said with tongue firmly in cheek
AMEN brother!
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Les Marsh
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She is looking very nice, and it's good to see you are making progress and it shouldn't be too long before she is back in the water.
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johnreid
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It looks like the Pope is blessing it too
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mogogear
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Yep- the Pope touch was my inference in the last paragraph!
I laughed out loud while I was focusing the camera - I didn't even notice till then!!!
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oldstuff
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Should be a good omen, mo.
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mogogear
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She is done- !!! float test in a few days while things set up- !! Then adjustments...
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Nick
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I hope it floats! 
And even better, I hope it runs well.  |
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