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Marshalls and Fowlers wooden casting patterns
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Mamodman123


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

James wrote:
Exactly lad! It's a business, they don't hold stuff if there's no need...


By the sounds of it they've done them a favour so far but if they won't collect then they can have no complaints if they are melted, burn or chucked  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

to all who have reacted, I would like to say that I congratulate James for being so enthusiastic and willing to save part of a heritage that I myself am also passionate about, I have indeed expressed this to him on many occasions. I did not, or indeed do not condemn him for saving the patterns and selling some. After all, it is better than them being destroyed.
In response to James' dads telephone call, we were not directly offered patterns that were discovered in Marshalls works, however we were offered the doors, but then nothing esle seemed to come of the talks (and this was a while ago now).
I accept that a museum cannot and argueably should not aim to hold all such items found, however for a collections point of view, some patterns would be useful in charting the history of the company.

In my previous post I did not set out to offend, I merely would just like to argue that people should not jump to conclusions and comdemn parties without getting the facts ito order first.

I would now like to say to any of you who buy these of James, well done in securing a piece of history of what was a truly magnificent empire of a company and a significant part of my towns history.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thats very good of you, thanks for clearing that up.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I appreciate that!

You can have a few when the museum opens or whatever, as I feel that they should be shown to people!

I heard about where it's on about opening aswell!


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well said that man  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Im somewhat pleases Ive got that off my chest.

Fear not, I will make sure the more local people to Gainsborough shall be invited when the new heritage centre opens, hopefully sometime within the nest few months or so.

And for James, I shall, should you wish, be willing to give you a look at our Marshall archive at some point when the museum is open. It truly is fascinating and something i'm sure you'd enjoy.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks mate!

Could you send me the joining info again please? I kind of lost it  

Do you have a book with all the pattern numbers in?  
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i'll send it to your e-mail so that you get it asap.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ta!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like the Gainsborough Heritage Centre will be a worthy home to some of those patterns!

But James - if you pardon the joke -  no more "Get Rich Quick" Schemes with our industrial heritage in the future - Ok?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

alan2525 wrote:
Sounds like the Gainsborough Heritage Centre will be a worthy home to some of those patterns!

But James - if you pardon the joke -  no more "Get Rich Quick" Schemes with our industrial heritage in the future - Ok?


He was hardly making a fortune    
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some people just won't listen...
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive just returned from a few days hols and am saddened that the thread is still going, apologies in a way for adding to it, but heres my bit

I do hope  that some people from  earlier postings will reflect on what theyve said, read through this and threads from as far back as May 2007, as well as postings re the Marshall buildings in round October- December 2007 and realise that its abundantly clear that James and others have seemingly come in for a huge amount of inappropriate personal flack. James and those who want these interesting castings  are surely trying as hard as time and energy allows to keep as much heritage as possible.

What do those who are getting hold of James saved castings want to do with them? Surely save and cherish them, and not use them as fire kindling wood. This is what was to happen to them, for goodness sake.

If there were money to be made from this then shoot the  beneficaries of I assume  big money- the Developers and also the Council planning department , officers and Council representatives who in the majority must have presumably thought that such a development is in the countries and Heritages best interest, rather than shoot fellow steam enthusiasts who aim surely to preserve and enjoy their hobby.

I do wonder, mods, if its best as Moose said earlier to lock this thread.

It Would be a pity if some who want some of Marshall and Fowlers history to loose out if the thread drops down, but am sad that such a lot of rumble and bluster has been made of someones hard toil.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
alan2525 wrote:
Sounds like the Gainsborough Heritage Centre will be a worthy home to some of those patterns!

But James - if you pardon the joke -  no more "Get Rich Quick" Schemes with our industrial heritage in the future - Ok?


He was hardly making a fortune    


It was only an ill timed joke! It went down like a lead balloon too!
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh sorry  

Just that there's been so much sniping and shit slinging over these I don't know what's a joke and what ain't any more!  
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