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mogogear


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was thinking if I find a boiler like the, Burnac  or other center flue vertical boiler , and made it gas powered , pressurized fuel... would that do it...?

I am not desperate for anything yet... but always shopping it seems..So I am fine tuning my watch list and adjusting my "eye" for what to be on the look out for..
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 10:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are going gas fired then you really need a boiler which has been silver soldered, otherwise you run the risk of de-soldering the boiler.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 12, 2008 11:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well thanks Les, as with all things steam , more Research... So I guess most single flue vertical boilers were not silver soldered.. and I will opt for "the more " sophisticated versions...
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John Richards


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 12:51 pm    Post subject: Vertical Boiler Reply with quote

I`m afraid I really must agree with Les as to the amount of Steam
produced and expended,
What size Vertical do you think you`ll need?, What Dia`, What
hieght of Boiler not including Smoke Stack, Hedgehog or Watertube,
with or without Blowdown, with or without Feed Pump?, Just a few
of the things you should decide before you start Construction, even
If you were to "Commission a Boiler" there is nothing worse then
being half or worse Three Quarter thru` construction and have the
"Jolly Client" ring you up and add half of the "Units" above because
he thought they might look "cool". I have made Hedgehogs before
as yet I haven`t built a Water Tube.

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 2:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks John,

I wasn't going to have one made- I am not that "top end"!! All your points are so valid. There are many factors to evaluate. That is why I can choose and buys houses to live in but having one built makes my head spin. I know what I like when I see it.

I took a chance on this one. Rob had listed it earlier and I had seen it also. My metric estimation was off and had discounted it because it looked too big for the boat I am intending it for..It should work size wise- production wise... ahh here comes my lesson .. in the mail..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Live-Steam-...PageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


We will see if it can run the single Stuart that I have - with a million heat tubes it should - it may have too much surface area!!

My budget was too small to go with the nicer options suggest bt Moose and Les and yourself!!

Wish me luck!
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well...still looking. The seller replied to me that shipping for the boiler ( 3" X 6" was $48 Pounds.. then asked if I declined..

Interesting that I got a wood boxed Snipe shipped to me for $35 pounds...???

Hopefully we can politely dissolve the transaction without negatives..
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Crazy Mo- jumped on another boiler ... could be a little dodgey ... I hope not, the pictures were just a little less definitive than I would have hoped for..But iyt called for monetary action!!


Ah such is the dice roll of steam life...

But a vertical boiler( with a Mamod looking lever whistle), a single cylinder oscillator ( with a claimed power piston) and an included jetted ceramic gas burner with igniter!!  

$12 pounds shipping to the US - That is a vast improvement over the $48 pounds the last seller


I hope I am as happy when I open the box ..Fingers crossed
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 17, 2008 5:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you any pics or a link?
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yep- here it is... some tatty piping with the steam feed looking to duck down under the firebox perhaps for a drying effect..who knows..

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=290223443577


The seller had a gas tank also and he offered to make me a deal- but someone bid on it before I could lock it up.... he was asking $30 pounds...

Darn ,missed  
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 12:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Double Dratttt!!!!

I got my new steam launch today..... it is no steam launch.. it a shelf toy replica of one... With a piece of brass sheet metal spinning around on a nail - posing as a propeller        

I have responded to the seller - to see if she will take it back to re-sell if I eat the shipping both ways...

This is the "NO Boat"


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140221937642

The pit falls of not getting the specific questions asked and answered clearly. When I asked about a propeller and access hatches, she only said "yes there is a propeller" I did not ask if it was functioning.. and I did not press her on the hatch question..

Not thorough enough on my part-- Take heed lad's., slow down a bit so you don't fall in this hole...

So be forewarned that if this boat shows up fro resale by me or the seller -it is a furniture store decoration
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johnreid


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 1:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dang that is bad news. I have fallen to the almost too good to be true things on occasion, like my Mamod Roller that needed only some "minor repairs" took a month, but I got my money back.
Since the description says Steam Powered, I bet you can qualify for a Not as Described dispute if she doesnt cooperate, lets hope she does.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

For that price, you might be better off selling it yourself.
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mogogear


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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thank goodness - It was not a crazy price--- So even if I sell it - I hopefully can not be out more than $30 bucks or so..shipping was only $7 ...

I hate it when I screw up@ I hold myself partially responsible... you gotta ask- the few percentage of times when it matters eventually catches up with you
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wonder if you could take better pictures and make more money.

John has some good selling tips.

Maybe take a picture of it floating in water, then they'd really get some good ideas and bid high.
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 18, 2008 2:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nick wrote:
I wonder if you could take better pictures and make more money.

John has some good selling tips.

Maybe take a picture of it floating in water, then they'd really get some good ideas and bid high.


All in jest Nick... I would really just sell it as a decor item... I am too honest and worried about reputation as  dear John Reid..

Old world I am, I  suppose...
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