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Mamodman123
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Joined: 19 Jul 2006 Posts: 31789 Location: Midlands, UK
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:07 am Post subject: |
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| pauly wrote: | careful what you are doing with that asbestos mate.  |
It's only really dangerous after pro-longed exposure and when its been ripped apart i.e from a roof etc. That small amount wouldn't hurt a fly.
A nice engine John! How is that steam dome attached to the boiler exactly? _________________ Solid Fuel tablets explode
You could get a nice flatbase for that
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:16 am Post subject: |
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THE Steam dome is attached via a hollow steam screw. The screw is hollow and has some holes in the sides to allow steam to pass from the Boiler to the Steam line. This takes two gaskets and works quite well, as of a fact new Jensens still use the same set up, why change a good thing.
Asbestos in the sheet form is harmless, it is the dust that is harmful. You will inhale more Asbestos dust changing a flat tire than you would working on an older Jensen.
Breathing Meths and Esbit fumes is far more harmful than that. The most harmful thing I did today was when I spray painted and unintentionally inhaled Acetone paint thinner from the spray paint in the air. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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kusuchi
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Joined: 23 Jan 2008 Posts: 1735 Location: St Thomas, U.S. Virgin Islands
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:59 am Post subject: |
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| johnreid wrote: | THE Steam dome is attached via a hollow steam screw. The screw is hollow and has some holes in the sides to allow steam to pass from the Boiler to the Steam line. This takes two gaskets and works quite well, as of a fact new Jensens still use the same set up, why change a good thing.
Asbestos in the sheet form is harmless, it is the dust that is harmful. You will inhale more Asbestos dust changing a flat tire than you would working on an older Jensen.
Breathing Meths and Esbit fumes is far more harmful than that. The most harmful thing I did today was when I spray painted and unintentionally inhaled Acetone paint thinner from the spray paint in the air. |
Rather like the sight glass screws on the 25?
Boy, John, you really went at that. You obviously have the right size rivets and gun.
Why is it alright to repaint a 40's Jensen, but not a Krauss accessory?
Obviously, members have different opinions on the ethics of restoration. Practicality must also be an issue. _________________ Richard
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:10 am Post subject: |
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The Rivets get peened, and yes not only do I have some on hand, but I ordered some when I knew the engine was coming.
I guess that gloss black paint is gloss black paint whereas a lithographed antique tin toy is another animal. Again though, Roger restores to new, I restore to well cared fro condition. I do like mine to look like they are not brand new.
The hollow steam screw on the tube type sightglass is the exact same part.
One can see how I do te rivets on my Jensen Project 35 page, or stay tuned as on Sunday I will take some more pictures.
I believe that the cord is original on my other Cast Base 25 and it shows no cracks or fatigue, it is about 6 years newer too though. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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Stitch
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Joined: 03 May 2007 Posts: 944 Location: Australia
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 1:41 am Post subject: |
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John, your collection is growing and growing All the best with the restoration. I am sure you will have it up and running soon. |
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steamyman
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Joined: 19 Feb 2007 Posts: 3295 Location: Australia.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 2:43 am Post subject: |
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looks good John, bet you can't wait to steam it.  |
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Les
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Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 8522 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:43 am Post subject: |
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That's exactly what we need, a step by step guide of how to strip a Jensen.
Thankyou.  _________________ Les - Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternatives.
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 12:17 pm Post subject: |
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TA
I have done this before with my 35
http://www.freewebs.com/johnreid/jensenproject35.htm
Start to finish complete with a video at the bottom of the page.
The boiler on this one is really corroded. I am now wondering if maybe this particular engine wasnt a collection of left over parts that someone had after fixong up a bunch of older Jensens. No big deal though, as long as I can get it to operate well, I will be happy. However I will be on the lookout for a replacement tube sightglass Boiler _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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oldstuff
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Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 2530 Location: Detroit, Michigan, U.S.A.
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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That's coming along well, John. Look forward to it running.  _________________ -Chuck
Twin-cylinder, CSE-3
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 5:53 pm Post subject: |
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I have to admit that the photos stopped as I didnt want to go out and buy new batteries. I was installing the sightglass and quickly realized that the bottom sightglass thread is stripped out, all I could do is spin the steam screw but not purchase any threads
Dont ask me why, but I decided to try it without the guard, and now have enough thread to tighten it down snugly. Literally hanging on by a thread. But as long as it will tighten enough to be steam tight, that is all that matters.
The handles were both stripped out and had to be replaced, I made new ones from a dowel.
I will post some pictures Monday.
I do think that this one needs to be steamed before I spend money on a Safety Valve as if the Boiler is stripped out, I might find a new Safety Valve when I find a replacement boiler, but lets hope it holds pressure without any leaks, wont know till Monday when the paint is cured enough to heat it up. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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madeinenglang
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Joined: 16 Apr 2008 Posts: 206 Location: uk/Englang
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Posted: Sat May 10, 2008 6:17 pm Post subject: |
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I agree with mm asbestos is safe just not long time holding or braking it or smashing it I use to work in a factory that used to make washer and gasket and yes it was asbestos  |
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 12:29 pm Post subject: |
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I assembled it this morning, put water in the boiler and plugged it in. It was heating just fine, making the normal warming up noises when all of the sudden sparks flew, the heating element is shot
I need to decide how to go about finishing this, do I wait till I can find a replacement boiler or do I just go ahead and buy a heating element. I will probably order a new heating element on Monday, and a Safety Valve, but was hoping that I would luck out on this one. As the saying goes, you win some, you lose some. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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Les
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Joined: 03 Nov 2007 Posts: 8522 Location: Bournemouth, Dorset.
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:23 pm Post subject: |
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Thats not good news at all.
Are elements expensive?? _________________ Les - Old age isn't so bad when you consider the alternatives.
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johnreid
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Joined: 06 Sep 2007 Posts: 11117 Location: Friendship Indiana, USA
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:35 pm Post subject: |
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I can get one for $35 and I do need a Safety Valve so I guess that i will end up spending about $50 on it but once done it should be worth it, I didnt save any by getting it at a reasonable price though and the Boiler is kind of poor looking for the total investment. That is the risk one takes when buying on Ebay. If I had found one for sale through a Dealer it would have cost more. _________________ Your life is an occasion...Rise to it |
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made-in-england
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Joined: 29 Nov 2007 Posts: 769 Location: Stockbridge,Hants
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Posted: Sun May 11, 2008 8:48 pm Post subject: |
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If your concerend about the asbestos out of your boiler we had all three boilers stripped to rid of it.. Think it was about 5 tones im told ?!?! _________________ I Like SP2 engines a little too much |
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