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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:37 pm    Post subject: Titans Table Reply with quote

I have taken the day off and am pretty frantically doing things for this!

Not quite there yet, my secret project looks like being on target for steamable by the end of the weekend - hopefully before!

I will spend lunchtime uploading photos of progress so far.

I have always harboured a desire to build one of these, but it was this thread that really made me decide to get off my behind and do it!

So what is it? Well go and look!!!

http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org....html&highlight=mamod+fairlie

Enjoy the weekend!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

... a 'push me - pull you'- loco! I remember that thread, back in January
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 12:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now this will be a forum first. I'm looking forward to the video.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You used my idea!

Thats a first, no one useually uses my ideas.!


I cant wait to see it      
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats Right!  A Mamod Double Fairlie!  I have no idea if any other exists - a google ony really came up with that earlier thread on this forum. I know Mike Chaney started to build one once, but that was many years ago and I have no idea if he finished it.  Well this one WILL be finished and I'll make damn sure it runs well too!

Anyway, here is what I started with at the begining of September:



A rather nice SLK, the remains of an SL1, some left over wheels and cylinders, and a whole load of parts aquired from Forest Classics at the Great Dorset Steam Fair, and also some thick walled drawn brass tube for a boiler!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks good Ian.

Cant wait to see the finished loco.

I may have to make one as well some time.
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Me too!

This was the next stage, SLK partly dismantled, the new boiler cut to length and a trial fit of the bodywork. A new cab floor from steel has been constructed, which bolts over the existing floor, which has been shortened slightly. This and the roof are the means by which both halves are joined.  The new boiler gives considerable ridgidity to the loco, meaning that the body is effectively a monocoque that does not require a seperate chassis or frame.


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A comparison of the new boiler and the original from the SLK:



Just a wee bit longer!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Another comparison, this time the wall thickness. I expect that I could run this boiler at any pressure I choose!! However it is intended to run it at 40 psi so a considerable factor of safety!!!


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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 1:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Now as the drawgear is attached to the bogie on a Fairlie, some surgery was required to the smokeboxes.  Firstly, the buffer beams were cut off - if you wanted to keep the mamod couplings and buffers it would be possible to mount these on the bogie.  However I am going for chopper couplings so they are surplus to requirements.  The edges of the remaining footplate were radiused in a similar manner to the full size Fairlie Locos.


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Now we're starting to get serious!  This is the beginings of the bogie frames - four pieces of steel have been cut to shape - nothing complex, basically four rectangles!  



They are not as deep as normal mamod frames - The mamod frames just go up in to the combustion chamber, and as clearance is required on the corners they needed to be thinner here to give clearance.  Also, I have arranged that the cylinders are fitted horizontally, partly to copy the full size loco but also for clearance reasons too.  This does mean there are no awkward angles to work out and the design is fairly straightforward.  In the photo I am just about to drill the mounting holes for the cylinders. Being aware that accuracy is important here, I am using an old port face as a jig. I am also drilling all four frames at once, to ensure that each one is as near identical as possible.

Well thats all for now - still a million things to do - I need to finish silver soldering the boiler, test it and then I have all the pipework and fittings to complete. I won't get it all done today, but it is still possible that it might be steamable before the weekend is out - watch this space!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 2:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

  Wow!!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where they two good locos you have used to make one really good or two duff and still have the other SL1k?


Looks immense tho!
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 10, 2008 3:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is bringing back memories of my three cylinder SE3

I assume you'll be using flexible plastic piping to the two bogies? The new boiler is much more than double the size of the original. What sort of burner will you be using? Will it extend under the whole length?
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Roly Williams wrote:
This is bringing back memories of my three cylinder SE3

I assume you'll be using flexible plastic piping to the two bogies? The new boiler is much more than double the size of the original. What sort of burner will you be using? Will it extend under the whole length?


I was thinking the same Roly, the burner to power that is going to have to be rather large  
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