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tmuir


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 8:47 am    Post subject: Christmas Present Reply with quote

I picked up the material to make my wife's Christmas present today.
The silver pendant I was making has been put on hold due to the fact hinges have been given me trouble. I will attempt to finish the pendant in a month or 2s time.

What I am making now is a bangle based on the Russian Wedding ring.
For those that dont know what that is, it is 3 rings linked together, traditionaly one yellow gold, one pink gold and one silver or white gold.

I'm using 9K yellow gold, 9 K pink gold and to keep the cost down sterling silver.
The wire is 2.5mm in diameter and I require 215mm of each to make the bangle.

Here is a picture of the material.
There is twice the amount of silver I need for this project as I bought extra so another project.
The real fine wire is my medium silver solder.

The top little square is the 9K yellow gold medium solder and the little rectangle is the 9K pink gold medium solder.



Here is a couple of pictures of the prototype bangle I made in Stirling silver, it hasn't been polished yet which is why it is dull looking.



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice Tony. Is it going to be one of those where the "rings" are shaped so that putting them together is like a puzzle?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

yosa wrote:
Nice Tony. Is it going to be one of those where the "rings" are shaped so that putting them together is like a puzzle?


Only if your drunk.
Each ring is soldered up and formed round, then two have there joints cut through and then looped through the third ring and each other then resoldered so they are perminately connected.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Going to look Good Tony. I suppose you have to do a lot of creeping to the poor woman when you think of the spiders and stuff she has to put up with.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Going to look Good Tony. I suppose you have to do a lot of creeping to the poor woman when you think of the spiders and stuff she has to put up with.


Its to make her forget I'm about to spend 270 pounds buying the boiler kit for my Lady Anne.

I made her an 18K solid gold Bangle when I bought the first kit for my Lady Anne.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 11:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tmuir wrote:
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Going to look Good Tony. I suppose you have to do a lot of creeping to the poor woman when you think of the spiders and stuff she has to put up with.


Its to make her forget I'm about to spend 270 pounds buying the boiler kit for my Lady Anne.

I made her an 18K solid gold Bangle when I bought the first kit for my Lady Anne.


I'll shave my legs and you can marry me Tony.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'll shave my legs and you can marry me Tony.


Do you cook, clean and change dirty nappies?

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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Er.........................I like being single anyway.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Er.........................I like being single anyway.


Thought you were married Yosa unless 'er indoors is someone else?

How long will it take for you to make that Tony?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yosa wrote:
Er.........................I like being single anyway.


Thought you were married Yosa unless 'er indoors is someone else?

How long will it take for you to make that Tony?


Er indoors is my girlfriend mate.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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yosa wrote:
Er.........................I like being single anyway.


Thought you were married Yosa unless 'er indoors is someone else?

How long will it take for you to make that Tony?


Excluding the buffing I should finish it tomorrow night and then about another 15 minutes on the buffing machine.
The longest part is after each soldering or anealing it need to sit in the pickle solution for about 30 to 45 mins to remove the oxides.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just went and cut to size , squared up the ends and anealed the silver wire.
I also had to make up some fresh pickle.
Being using the same batch for a year now.
There is so much silver in the solution it has turned blue and was starting to silver plate the gold I had in it.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A few more pics of the progress.

Here is the 3 bangles anealed and cleaned and roughly bent into shape getiing ready for soldering.
Cant you just see how great its going to look from this photos.
The freckled apearance is caused by the flux. The shiney part were fully protected by the flux from oxidation while the dull part sufered some oxidation and the pickle removed it leaving the dull surface.



The next pic shows the yellow gold fluxed and ready for soldering.
If you look in the middle on the front of the wire you can see a tiny slither of metal. This is the gold solder. To get any idea how small that is the wire is only 2.5mm in diameter



Final pic shows the yellow and pink gold in the pickle.
The clear jar on the right is my fresh pickle solution the jar on the left is the old solution. The blue colour is caused by all the silver that is suspended in the solution.


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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the middle picture Tony, does the flux have to be spread all over the bangle for some reason? Or, is it just as a result of handling?
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 14, 2006 2:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The flux helps the solder flow by prventing oxidation.
When soldering jewellery if you apply too much heat too long you can cause the oxidation to go deep into the item which would then need filing to remove or you will end up with a dark patch on the finished item.
I flux the whole item to stop oxidation forming anywhere on the item.
It means less work to finish the item as you don't need to sand or file off oxidation before buffing.

I never did this when I first started but have found doing this means less work in the long run.
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