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Bowman M101 Restoration
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Burnmafingers


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PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2009 10:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

That base looks much better, maybe your top coat was indeed misted lacquer,
Why not try a bit of polish on the paint, Autoglym SRP for example, be interesting to see what it will come back like before you commit to going back to bare metal.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try a heatproof varnish/clearcoat on an area under the boiler to see what it comes up like, the varnish/clearcoat may bring out the colour.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2009 12:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just reading through this thread.

I'm personally undecided on the base. Yes it does have it's colour back but it looks a few different colours and quite cloudy/swirled I think thats what the nitromors has done to it. It looks to me like it's had petrol spilt on it. For that reason I think I would repaint, it would kill me to do it but I would repaint.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 12:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
Just reading through this thread.

I'm personally undecided on the base. Yes it does have it's colour back but it looks a few different colours and quite cloudy/swirled I think thats what the nitromors has done to it. It looks to me like it's had petrol spilt on it. For that reason I think I would repaint, it would kill me to do it but I would repaint.


Thanks ... You've raised a very good point.  Thing is ... the rest of the paintwork on the engine is ok, just needs a clean and I'd like to do as little painting as possible.  I've seen bases that look much, much worse in terms of paint work then my 101 base ... but the paint and decal are original and therefore it shouldn't matter about the condition.

Still undecided ...

Cheers

Pete

PS: Could I ask a favour to the fellow 101 owners.  Please could someone post a photo of the engine (or point me to a link) showing the steam pipe inlet and the exhaust pipe outlet arrangement as I have to make a new exhaust tube.  Thank you.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Does this help mate??


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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 6:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes Sandy ... indeed it does.  Thanks.

Just wondering ... your 101 has a value on the steam pipe.  Is this common on 101s?

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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 7:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pete, the 101 come both with valve and without valve. The fact that you haven't got one makes yours an early one.

A few years ago I would have answered otherwise, but now I think the base looks fantastic - a bit of turtlewax will give it a shine, and it'll look old but lovely.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 8:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les wrote:
Try a heatproof varnish/clearcoat on an area under the boiler to see what it comes up like, the varnish/clearcoat may bring out the colour.


That was my thinking also when I saw the treated base, don't hurt to try anyway IMHO, if you are not happy with current condition...
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sandy's picture seems to show a brass exhaust pipe that slides onto the copper pipe from the engine block. On my M101 the copper pipe runs all the way to the chimney and there's no brass extension piece. Either way looks good!
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 27, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mina has a brass exhaust extension like Sandy's.....

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Been a little busy tonight.  I've made a new stay rod for the 101.  It started life as a 5/32" brass rod which I then cut to size.  With the aid of an M4 die I cut two threads onto the rod; long thread (1 5/8" inch long ... thanks Mooseman) at the chimney end and a shorter thread at the level plug end.  The rod fits and the threads work!!  Amazing really as this was my first ever attempt at using a die.

And I've done a spot of polishing as well ...

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well done Pete, that looks good!
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Steve.

I'm just wondering ... is the nut at the level plug end just an ordinary brass nut or a domed nut?  I've seen both types in photos of 101s on the net.

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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

On mine its an ordinary nut, but it probably isn't the original one. A domed nut would look good if you've got one that fits.
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PostPosted: Sat Oct 31, 2009 11:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow, what progress Pete on this.

Im pretty sure that the base will come up OK. Looking great so far.

Interesting how many differences the 101s have.
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