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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:18 am Post subject: Brown Sauce on boilers

as some of you may know i bought that rather sorry looking se2 with the incredibly tarnished boiler, i read on the web that tomato sauce is good due to its mild acidity, so not having any i tried brown sauce and low and behold the crap started to come off with the help of a toothbrush. Revealing clean shiny brass underneath.

I wondered if anyone else has used this method?
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Bugsy · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:27 am Post subject:

Amazing!
Any particular brand?
Are the ingredients listed on the bottle?
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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:30 am Post subject:

sainsburys cheapest brand i have the bottle here:

Water,Glucose,Fructose,syrup, molasses, maize starch,date paste,tomato paste, apple, acetic acid, soy sauce, salt, and barley malt extract

leave for a bit rinse and then brasso the difference is striking
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Bugsy · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:53 am Post subject:

I'll bet it's the acetic acid that does the job.
And the consistency of the sauce keeps it in place while it's working.
I'm off to the kitchen to see if we've got some!
Great tip!!
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Griffin · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:07 am Post subject:

I used the brown sauce method on an old Primus blow lamp a good few years ago. Worked a treat.
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xlchainsaw · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:08 am Post subject:

yes its the acid and salt that does the cleaning. also ........ salt water from the sea is good.!! on copper and brass .(well our local sea works and people swim in it!!!) a mix of salt and vinegar works as well. these are cleaners that remove tarnish but doesnt POLISH. there is a difference between a tarnish remover and a polish. generally if brasso doesnt clean it i use some sort of acid what ever i can find.. hydrochloric...phospheric (rust converter) on old brass sometimes i make a "pickle " ...salt and vinegar with a drop of rust converter and water . the brass and copper go totally black... this is washed off. then hit it with brasso and if you like apply a coat of lacquer
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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:13 am Post subject:

i'll post a picture up of before and after
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madeinenglang · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:17 am Post subject:

don't put it on your chips after you have finished with it

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Wallace · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:19 am Post subject:

It will be interesting to see the pics.

I have used the salt and vinegar method that XL spoke of, and that works well too.

But it never shifted old burnt lacquer. Only thing that has done that for me is a wadding called Brite Shine. It has a caution not to use on lacquered surfaces, so I tried it and it worked

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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 9:27 am Post subject:

Before:

After:

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Sandman · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:38 am Post subject:

Excellent result.

Who would have believed that??

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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 11:08 am Post subject:

I know it was truly unbelieveable i thought i'd have to get a new boiler
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Les · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:12 pm Post subject:

That scrubbed up well.

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TE1DRIVER · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:16 pm Post subject:

Been and bought paint today so am going to paint the base and firebox tonight and start piecing it back together.
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It's my second childhood, This time I have money!!!!
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johnreid · Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 1:21 pm Post subject:

Was the job done A1?
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