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Posted: Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:31 pm Post subject: Bowman day on th eWhite Cloud and Northern, need advice
THe 300 has lots of power, maybe too much
Suggestions?
I will try again soon, I had to quit as I need assistance getting to the layout and my assistance had to leave. I am restricted to llifting less than 20 pounds and the garage door takes about 40 to open and close the door, need to adjust the torsion spring. _________________ Non Impedite Raditioni Cogitationis
Strange. Even with wheel slip you'd expect the engine to move with no load.
Just a couple of thoughts: is something fouling your central rail - maybe the meths tank or the burner tube? The other thought: are both axles free? I think the 300 is like the 234 with only one axle powered. If the other one is stiff it could halt the engine. _________________ Regards
Roly Williams
"The weather is always weird somewhere" (Gregg Easterbrook)
Have you tried putting the 234 tender behind the 300 to give it some extra weight?? _________________ Les - I would give up drinking but I am not a quitter.
Have you tried putting the 234 tender behind the 300 to give it some extra weight??
If the wheels are already slipping then adding more load behind is only going to make it worse. _________________ Regards
Roly Williams
"The weather is always weird somewhere" (Gregg Easterbrook)
The non driven axle spins freely and there is a good eighth of an inch between the center rail and the burner ( the lowest part of the Locomotive aside from the wheels ) I roughened the track with sandpaper, and cleaned the track with Meths and Acetone. The wheels are clean. I have been thinking of maybe putting some rubber on the wheels, but am unsure of how to make the rubber stay on. I do not want to do anything that modifies the Locomotive permanently. With the power and speed that it runs at, I am sure that once it gets enough traction to move, it wold pull the 234 and the 234s tender, the little thinkingg is a powerhouse, no doubt. I was hoping that maybe this might not be an uncommon problem and an easy solution is out there, something that I have over looked in my enthusiasm?
Maybe instead of a lubricator, it needs a sander _________________ Non Impedite Raditioni Cogitationis
The non driven axle spins freely and there is a good eighth of an inch between the center rail and the burner ( the lowest part of the Locomotive aside from the wheels ) I roughened the track with sandpaper, and cleaned the track with Meths and Acetone. The wheels are clean. I have been thinking of maybe putting some rubber on the wheels, but am unsure of how to make the rubber stay on. I do not want to do anything that modifies the Locomotive permanently. With the power and speed that it runs at, I am sure that once it gets enough traction to move, it wold pull the 234 and the 234s tender, the little thinkingg is a powerhouse, no doubt. I was hoping that maybe this might not be an uncommon problem and an easy solution is out there, something that I have over looked in my enthusiasm?
Maybe instead of a lubricator, it needs a sander
You could try putting something heavy in the cab to increase the weight on the rear axle. _________________ Regards
Roly Williams
"The weather is always weird somewhere" (Gregg Easterbrook)
I think there is a weight in the Meths tank for that purpose but I will try next time. IT is a bit frustrating not being able to go out to the layout on a whim and try things. _________________ Non Impedite Raditioni Cogitationis
I think there is a weight in the Meths tank for that purpose but I will try next time. IT is a bit frustrating not being able to go out to the layout on a whim and try things.
Can't you set up a few feet of temporary track inside, just to try things on? _________________ Regards
Roly Williams
"The weather is always weird somewhere" (Gregg Easterbrook)
All of my floors are covered. carpet or vinyl tile, I fear that a Meths mishap or even a fling of oil might lead to an expensive repair. _________________ Non Impedite Raditioni Cogitationis
That was with two wicks capped off too, the 234 with all of the wicks going is just a blur.
However, when i hold the tender to stop the engine it just stops, the wheels dont spin. I think the 300 has more punch than the 234. _________________ Non Impedite Raditioni Cogitationis
That was with two wicks capped off too, the 234 with all of the wicks going is just a blur.
However, when i hold the tender to stop the engine it just stops, the wheels dont spin. I think the 300 has more punch than the 234.
That is it's reputation! _________________ Richard
That was with two wicks capped off too, the 234 with all of the wicks going is just a blur.
However, when i hold the tender to stop the engine it just stops, the wheels dont spin. I think the 300 has more punch than the 234.
hehe, but if you pitted them against each other, the 300 wouldn't go anywhere! _________________ Ahh... The smell of esbit in the morning!
John, is it possible the drive wheels are a bit worn and not making sufficient contact with the rails, suspended a bit from front and rear wheels??? I know nothing about how those wheels go on or come off (if they even do)...but maybe if wear is the culprit you could swap wheels around to compensate.
Another option might be very thin O rings or electricians tape stretched over the drive wheels, but likelyhood of keeping them in place seems doubtful. At least if something like that will last a circuit or two of your track it would prove if wear is the culprit.
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