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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:30 pm    Post subject: Miss America Make-over Reply with quote

Back in February of this year I snagged a Miss America Hobbies Boat . She was / is in dire need of a restoration and re-fit. There are two members that have this version of this boat- Scalex ( needing work similar to mine- but his has a complete engine!) and Bowman ( Sandy) who has a fabulous restored Miss A!

To get my boat to look like Bowman's boat is my goal.

Here is Sandy's stunning boat





And here is mine as she came to me





So through gracious agreement between Sandy to provide parts to copy and measurements and Stilldrillin ( David) to make the missing cylinder and piston this boat will return to the waterways.

Also I would like to note I did secure a Bowman replica burner tube from Ian ( of his own hand) to replace the incorrect tube on the burner.

Also a complete paint strip, repair of the gunwales, remake the rear deck and front windscreen as well as tiller  and propeller will also occur.

A few last pictures of some details as they are now



Lots of nice yucky brown paint



botched burner



More as it occurs- keep you eyes open for input and updates from David and myself!

Once again- a huge thank you to Sandy. To risk mailing parts of his superb boat to David. measuring details for me and being so willing,, Thanks Sandy!!

David- you too are a hero-- I might be able to stumble through getting the parts made- but without  a mill they would be only close. Seeing as I have 4 boats under some sort of work at the moment, commissioning some parts to be made was my only real answer. Thank you for agreeing to take on the job-- It will be some of best the money I ever spend

Thank you to the both of you-- a great group we have!!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great forum effort there
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

good luck Mo,

superb effort from fellow forum members to get this old boat ship - shape

long may she sail when those new bits are installed

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

this is gonna be good!
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks --all I ask is to be patient as this evolves--Everyone has different schedules and time...!!

Ok,
I started the stripping today to celebrate the kickoff to this project

She is mostly blue, or green or blue..










I think If I can make out the layers that she was a light blue with green below the water line...does that make sense? Or was she all blue with white below? If so the white is all gone...
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:17 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fred Crammond may be able to help here Greg, though hes not round much in the Summer- the other possibility is Rob.
Theres a volonteer at Leicester Abbey Pumping Station who has a Basset lowke Enterprise, was in the upstairs loco area at STIA

Now he also has a Miss America and if memory serves it was light blue like yours. Rob may be able to get more pics or detail from this chap who isnt online. Really nice fellow though, and maybe a good source of advise re colour.

Sandys hull looks to  be different at the stern- is that right? Yours overlaps as it should at the stern for your boat.

The top board at the stern may also have faint black planking effect, so maybe try acetone / cellulose thinners to get the top layer off.

Another person who may (and probably does) know the colourway for this is Colin Laker.

Looking really good, and fantastic co-operation there
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Although my Miss America is different to yours I shall be sending the complete engine to David tomorrow which hopefully will help him make the parts you need.







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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les,
A finer fellow there is not - but Bowman  (Sandy also) is already sending his..so unless David wants you to you might not post it yet.

Thank you so much for the kind offer!!

With regards to the rear deck , mine I am fairly confident, is not original. And I have a piece of mahogany to cut a new one from. I will check the aft overlap you refer to and see I f can understand your point.

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lets not  confuse things.  Both my one and Gregs boats are identical, forget decks etc.     Read the Bowman books for clarity!! (or not!)
I  *AM *  sending my cylinder and piston to "stilldrillin" to copy .  Any other types ,of which there a few will confuse the issue.

RGDS  Sandy.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 10:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have already spoken to David and he does want it sent.
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 13, 2010 11:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atticman wrote:
Fred Crammond may be able to help here Greg, though hes not round much in the Summer- the other possibility is Rob.
Theres a volonteer at Leicester Abbey Pumping Station who has a Basset lowke Enterprise, was in the upstairs loco area at STIA

Now he also has a Miss America and if memory serves it was light blue like yours. Rob may be able to get more pics or detail from this chap who isnt online. Really nice fellow though, and maybe a good source of advise re colour.

Sandys hull looks to  be different at the stern- is that right? Yours overlaps as it should at the stern for your boat.

The top board at the stern may also have faint black planking effect, so maybe try acetone / cellulose thinners to get the top layer off.

Another person who may (and probably does) know the colourway for this is Colin Laker.

Looking really good, and fantastic co-operation there


Tom

great recommendations all!! Thanks
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 7:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mornin all!

Right, I`m on board..... With a bit clearer idea of what is needed, than I had previously.  

So very sorry Les, for the misunderstanding.  

If it doesn`t complicate things too much, I will post my part in this adventure, on here, as and when anything happens at the Drillin Workshop.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 9:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

at last I have found the picture- and it is the same as yours Greg I think.

The pale blue is just the underwater, and may have been resprayed anyway.

Sandy (Bowman) thanks, I dont have the Bowman books, so I have to go on memory- books arent always right, but Colin Lakers research has been really thorough and is indeed likely to be the best reference we have. - just looking at the stern of yours, must be the angle but it doesnt look to slope like Gregs  


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PostPosted: Wed Jul 14, 2010 2:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Les that is a great picture!! No worries---I have seen other shots and Sandy's stern is the same raked one on my hull.

The details I have seen little to no photos of is:

1. The tiller and how it is arranged. The top of my rudder stem is threaded- so a nut and a flat tiller of brass? or other

2. How the rear deck is attached

3. a close up of the brass escutcheon used to friction -hold the tiller in place( I assume)

The paint scheme will evolve-- Thanks for that shot --It is nice to have as many Miss America photos here for the future!!
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Best i can do off the computer greg.
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