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Upgrading MMS saddle tank
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Chris


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PostPosted: Thu Apr 12, 2007 7:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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An Edrig in my opinion is about the best 'budget' loco you can get!!! [url]www.thesignalbox.co.uk/?action=showall&cat=42&sid=xfqa9l^wnn2sm43_xlq31h7sheu_qrj4[/url] The bottom one. It's £400 though a super great Janet is £387.50, and I'm sure the Edrig's a better model at the end of the day. Not that I have anything against Janet. A better description of Edrig here www.brandbright.co.uk/edrig.htm.

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I thought of an Edrig, but it is too fancy considering I don't have a full garden railway set up. I want something more of a stable mate for my SL1.

If I was going ahead with a garden railway then I would be going Roundhouse Bertie, or Accucraft Edrig.

A budget Janet is £300, then I can upgrade in time as money or desire allows. Anyway, I think the decision will be an MMS saddle tank, as even if I can't upgrade safety valve I will still be able to run it on meths, and it will use some rolling stock without modification. It will be a few years I expect before rethinking a garden railway then I can go the roundhouse/accucraft route.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 8:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mixed reports so far.

Chap on Low Cost Garden Railways Yahoo group says yes you can upgrade MMS saddle tank. Alan at PPS says no you can't.

I hate getting contradictory opinions!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It depends what's underneath that dome at the cab end. But you could definatley fit a saftey valve which comes up through the hole in the tank. Though I'd recomend that you modify the tank as done here http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/...den_Railways/photos/view/300c?b=4
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wrote:
Mixed reports so far.

Chap on Low Cost Garden Railways Yahoo group says yes you can upgrade MMS saddle tank. Alan at PPS says no you can't.

I hate getting contradictory opinions!


One might mean you have to hack something off
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
Chris wrote:
Mixed reports so far.

Chap on Low Cost Garden Railways Yahoo group says yes you can upgrade MMS saddle tank. Alan at PPS says no you can't.

I hate getting contradictory opinions!


One might mean you have to hack something off


Which would be fine on an ebay bargain...but this would be new.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aye! You could always have a shorter one made up?
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 10:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

SillyBilly wrote:
It depends what's underneath that dome at the cab end. But you could definatley fit a saftey valve which comes up through the hole in the tank. Though I'd recomend that you modify the tank as done here http://ph.groups.yahoo.com/group/...den_Railways/photos/view/300c?b=4


I can see no good reason why a safety valve can't be fitted. Might look a bit strange sticking out but still.
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

you can get a adrig for about £360

much better loco in my opinion!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you can get a adrig for about £360

much better loco in my opinion!


I could have got a Lexus instead of a Toyota.

I could have got a wife with longer legs.

I could have gone on holiday to Italy instead of the Isle of Wight.

I could have bought a house with four bedrooms instead of three.

I could have got a Mercer instead of a TE1a.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point.

I just ran my SL1 in the garden, grinning away as the little fellow trundled around. I wouldn't have smiled any more with any different engine. Now what shall I spend that £200 on that I didn't waste on an Edrig?


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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i only just realised you bought the MSS loco
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wrote:
steamyjim wrote:
you can get a adrig for about £360

much better loco in my opinion!


I could have got a Lexus instead of a Toyota.

I could have got a wife with longer legs.

I could have gone on holiday to Italy instead of the Isle of Wight.

I could have bought a house with four bedrooms instead of three.

I could have got a Mercer instead of a TE1a.

I could go on, but I think I have made my point.

I just ran my SL1 in the garden, grinning away as the little fellow trundled around. I wouldn't have smiled any more with any different engine. Now what shall I spend that £200 on that I didn't waste on an Edrig?



Top post again Chris!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 6:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, I certainly get your point!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Glad you all see where I am going from.

I could afford an Edrig. I could afford a small army of them. I was even tempted to buy one...then I realised I don't want one. If I ever build a proper garden railway then I will want one or a roundhouse or two.

I want a cute little loco that makes me smile. I don't even expect it will be as good as the SL1 I've already got, he runs really sweet now, and that was about £70.

I'm fairly sure I can fit a better safety valve to the saddle tank, but not a water top up, so runs will be limited to a tank full of water, so about 20 minutes. My face aches if I smile for more than 20 minutes in one go!
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris wrote:
Glad you all see where I am going from.

I could afford an Edrig. I could afford a small army of them. I was even tempted to buy one...then I realised I don't want one. If I ever build a proper garden railway then I will want one or a roundhouse or two.

I want a cute little loco that makes me smile. I don't even expect it will be as good as the SL1 I've already got, he runs really sweet now, and that was about £70.

I'm fairly sure I can fit a better safety valve to the saddle tank, but not a water top up, so runs will be limited to a tank full of water, so about 20 minutes. My face aches if I smile for more than 20 minutes in one go!




If you keep going at this rate Chris, we'll need a poster of the century award

Aye! that's what I love about them! they put a smile on your face, even the bank managers!

Countless people at STIA just loved them and it was great to see how facinated people were

If you can get an uprated safety valve in there you should be fine. The Water top up valve is good, but not as useful as the uprated valve IMO
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PostPosted: Sat Apr 14, 2007 7:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm getting quite passionate about these little mamod (MSS) locos you know!

Maybe one day I will be brave and buy a munter to do up and fit all the upgrades.
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