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Rebuilding a TE1a into a Showmans engine (project Sovereign)
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syrtismajor


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok, here is a picture now I've ceased operations for the night. . .

The steam dome is between where the sv would be and the firebox.
The steam pipe comes out of the boiler and bends through the firebox (one of the pipes jutting out the back) where it will eventually join with the regulator and lubricator.
The pipe will then go back through the firebox (the other pipe sticking out) and bend up through the boiler to where the cylinder shall be:


Make sense?
My little dome can be seen sitting snugly now she's been soldered on.
The mess of pipes under the boiler will eventually be hidden by a faux belly tank.

Now, bath and bed I think after I've gotten rid of the smell of solder and flux from my bedroom. . .

EDIT: The red thing is not a kamikaze band but an elastic band holding the firebox together, and no it is not a permanant fixture
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's pretty obvious what Ranger is doing.

The same thing he does with Pinky everynight, try to take over the world!

Hey, how did you get in here? What's that in yo.. BANG *thud*


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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You are definitely progressing well Syrtis! Can't wait to see it finished
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTA wrote:
It's pretty obvious what Ranger is doing.

The same thing he does with Pinky everynight, try to take over the world!

Hey, how did you get in here? What's that in yo.. BANG *thud*



MTA? MTA?? *prods*

*whimpers*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Why god why??
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

syrtismajor wrote:
MTA wrote:
It's pretty obvious what Ranger is doing.

The same thing he does with Pinky everynight, try to take over the world!

Hey, how did you get in here? What's that in yo.. BANG *thud*



MTA? MTA?? *prods*

*whimpers*

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!! Why god why??


I'm on the floor laughing my head off now
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definatly starting to take shape now
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I hate holding secrets but love telling people that I have a secret. So here goes


I'm turing this




Into this

Yes its a wacky idea turning a wilesco steam roller into a mamod steam wagon. BUT look at the good things about it,

Wilesco steam rollers have plenty of power to spare and clutch drive so but the roller couldnt flatten caramel. So by putting a bed on the back and gearing up the wheels with chains it should do a moderately fast speed, with plenty of power.I will also be adding a handle to dump ( yes the bed will be hindged so it can dump ) the bed manually. The whole set up will be made of wood and fibregalss. I got the front made from fibreglass and the frame made from wood.It should be a fun project.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like a good project!

Will be inetresting to see how it looks in the end
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 8:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mamodman123 wrote:
Sounds like a good project!

Will be inetresting to see how it looks in the end


Here is a little more info on my project.

http://modelsteam.myfreeforum.org/about5376.html
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Update 'o' rama

Hello once again to the ongoing saga of the TE1a modification

Firstly, I located the find of the century yesterday round the local market. for the measly sum of £12 I managed to buy a HSS Tap & Die set that does M3 to M12!! Result!
Much of this ensued:

I've already utilised it in an idea. My original plan was to fix the end caps of the cylinder the same way as the Mamod loco cylinders. This seemed like a gamble as they really do need to be precise. But now I plan to have the end caps to be screw on! This way I can open up the cylinder for maintence etc. . .
Here is the cylinder as it stands now:

As you can see, it has been drilled out and tapped ready for the end caps that I would be making now if it weren't for the time! I am also now building the lubricator properly rather than soldering on bolts to act as a thread. Things are looking up!
Also, the boiler is now looking swish with its new 'bling' boiler bands and new paint job:

(and no, they are not bought bands but hand cut using a junior hacksaw, hand bent using fingers, a few plasters and antiseptic. And yes they are soldered on )
The firebox will remain black, but the boiler will be blue apart from a 2mm band of black left on either side of the brass bands.
So all and all it's going rather well, something is bound to go wrong sooner or later

(Speaking of which, me and my partner were involved in a car crash yesterday when another car ran up the back of us, that's twice it's happened to my partner in two months! We're both ok though, no injuries obvious as of yet. Her last car was written off but this time her new 4X4 seems to have gotten off lightly compared to the car that hit us. Oh well, life goes on!)
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PostPosted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about the car crash mate Oh well, life goes on Sovereign is coming on really well now, how long until she's in steam?! Might I suggest that when you leave the 2mm of black around the boiler bands, that you put a thin white line between the blue,black border. Should set it off nicely
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 13, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

MTA wrote:
Sorry to hear about the car crash mate Oh well, life goes on Sovereign is coming on really well now, how long until she's in steam?! Might I suggest that when you leave the 2mm of black around the boiler bands, that you put a thin white line between the blue,black border. Should set it off nicely


Cheers for your concern
How long before she's in steam? Err, I wouldn't like to say. I still have a fair bit to do. I am going to light her up though when the lubricator and regulator are fitted. All I'll get will be a jet of steam when I turn the reg, but at least it'll tell me if it's up to scratch!

Tempted with the white lines, it's just getting them on there with all that piping, makes it hard to mask off! I was going to do the blue by hand, (I'm confident ), but the white would be pushing it.

Everyone here will be sure to know when she chuffs her first chuff, if that's her fate of course rather than exploding.
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Since I've been off work all week with sickness (not a pretty sight I can ssure you) I've taken the chance to get some stuff done (when not running for the toilet or nearest bowl)

(Before I start, please remember that I am only using a drill, a junior hacksaw, a handbrace, warding files and sandpaper for this, so apologies for sloppiness!)

Firstly! The cylinder was a disaster, I couldn't get the threads straight which means I now have a highly over engineered lubricator body for a future project
This meant that I went back to the old plan of using existing tubing and soldering the end caps on, more permanent and less fixable but what the heck. It's a gamble!
Here's the assembly as it stands:

The end caps are next on the 'things to do' list, as well as fixing in the M3 studding to hold the valve block to the cylinder block. The whole thing still needs cleaning and polishing too.

'Now how do you plan to mount it?' I hear you ask.. 'Every engine needs a frame!'
Well here it is:

Still need to drill the two steam holes and four fixing holes in it, as well as tidying it all up so it doesn't look so 'Frankenstien-esque'. You may also notice that I have soldered a brass tube in place to act as a bearing. This will be cut down to expose the axle for the eccentric to power the valve gear. Speaking of eccentrics:

How's that for one?
You may notice a small piece of cannibalised Meccano in there, sorry about that!

Right, I'm off to try and eat something and maybe make some end caps.

*Marches off into the sunset, before taking a slight detour into a bush and. . . erm. . . 'fertilising' it *
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is all coming along together nicely

The cylinder with soldered caps should be fine!
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PostPosted: Thu Aug 16, 2007 1:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Looking good, its all coming together now.

Hope you feel better soon.
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