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IndianaRog · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 3:42 am Post subject:

I believe those boat kits are actually made in Germany and just distributed by a US source.

I had an Alexandra kit once bought thru Yesteryear Toys in New York. It came missing some stamped out bits of wood...took Yesteryear about 3 months to get the needed replacement parts from Germany.

Unfortunately, I never built the boat and sold it instead on eBay!!
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benchmark · Posted: Sat Dec 24, 2011 11:37 am Post subject:

RocDoc · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 1:06 pm Post subject:

Hope you all have had a lovely Christmas and are now gearing up towards the New Year. There is no rest for the workers in the shipyard. They have been a bit busy recently.

This is the skeleton frame (parts 17-22) that supports the main decks. Coffee and Sherry ... nice.

The sherry was needed at this point as a problem became apparent in the build. The Krick plans are designed around a specific Krick engine and boiler set up (which I think is now no long being made). So when I came to dry fitting the decks and putting the Boiler & TVR1A engine in place ... it became obvious that the current set up wasn't going to fit.

In the photo below, the TVR1A engine is positioned over the 'location' of the Krick engine as per the plans. The boiler is way too forward in the hull.

Even with the engine as far back as the bulkhead (part 21) the boiler is still too far forward. Definitely need to think about re-configuring the boiler & engine set up.

benchmark · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:21 pm Post subject:

Maybe you can modify the layout of the hull , you don't have to build it exactly as it shows on the box, you can make the cabin shorter or no cabin as all, in the 'A la Bernhard' style that is very realistic too.
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mogogear · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 3:55 pm Post subject:

A thought:

I think that middle portion of the power plant arrangement ( the throttle valve stand) may need reconfiguring so the boiler and engine can sit closer together.

i.e. That valve can be off to the side etc
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RocDoc · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 7:07 pm Post subject:

Great minds think alike Greg. Was thinking the very same.

There is a lot of empty space between the boiler and throttle. Maybe the lubricator can be moved to the side and slightly behind the throttle, linked with a curved pipe instead of a straight pipe as is now.

Fun and games this launch building lark.

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H2o vapour · Hero Steamer Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 1930

Interesting,

My thought is to go for boiler and engine back to back mounted on a brass plate that can be lifted out as one unit to work on. All pipes and controls piped to the sides as suggested.

The gas tank usually sits in the Bow and radio in the cabin under the seats. I see a Huco coupling, they take space, if you could make / aquire a more simple coupling 'Disk & Pin' that will save space and enable the unit to lift out also.

Not sure what prop shaft you are using, some have bearings that can be kocked out and the shaft can then be shortened to length and re-threaded.

I'd also do some 'Bathtub' tests as well at this stage, to ensure that you can ballast it all out as required regards the waterline. Mind you a little heavy will not be to much of a problem.

Hope this helps

Nice project

H2o

mogogear · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:15 pm Post subject:

Pete...problem solving .....which is one of the reasons boats intrigue me so much...finding the solution- sometimes elegantly - sometimes just practically.

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Stoker · Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2011 8:20 pm Post subject:

Looks like you're a man after my own heart there Pete. Cup o' coffee and a glass of wine both on the work bench at the same time. Sort of two-fisted drinking as it were.

I think Greg's idea is a good one. It should even be possible to reconfigure the powerplant layout to where the oiler and throttle are both abaft the engine, and off to the side, making it possible to bring the boiler back to where it is just in front of the engine. That should bring your CG to a very acceptable location!
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MooseMan · Posted: Sun Jan 01, 2012 10:37 pm Post subject:

Pete, on the TRV1A it is work of minutes to remove the inlet manifold and turn it around to face the other way. That way it would be perfectly feasible to have the boiler situated b.ehind (towards the stern) of the engine. You don't have to worry about the length of the steam pipe (within reason) - the TRV1A prefers "wet" steam.

To try out complicated pipe runs I usually use good quality silicone hose first, this will hold up to a few steamings. Once I get everything where I want it I use the silicoe hose as a template for my final pipe runs out of copper.
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H2o vapour · Hero Steamer Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 1930

How's it going Pete ??

All the best

Mark - H20

RocDoc · Posted: Sat Jan 14, 2012 11:25 pm Post subject:

mogogear · Posted: Sun Jan 15, 2012 1:18 am Post subject:

H2o vapour · Hero Steamer Joined: 16 Feb 2007 Posts: 1930

Hi pete,

We all have to 'Earn' a living !

What I find rewarding is to come home and know that I have the time and skill to get into the garage and crack on with a bit of work, other than the day job. I also find it, like the forum that tinkering is quite relaxing.

You will get there, and it'll be a nice job, which is the main thing.

I also echo previous advice. There's some warming up and condense before they will run, alot I know have condense collectors and use an amount of pipes and the like to get the engine running and collect the rubbish, before they set sail.

Best of luck

Mark

RocDoc · Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2012 11:18 pm Post subject:

Sorry guys ... the build hasn't progressed at all for a while. The 'day job' has got in the way. The good news is that I may have a window of opportunity to open the shipyards again soon.

Thanks for sticking with me.

Pete

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