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xlchainsaw
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they sure do.  but they are 60 odd years apart!
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Some more Info for you all.
'Hi Tony,
Thanks for your help. I am writing up the history of Parken Engineering now. The name Parken is an amalgamation of the two business partners names “Pardi Haussegger & Ken?”, I am waiting on some of the family to give me there version of the company history. I am also going through the factory storage to source the original tooling and packaging templates. Parken did do a limited production run in the 1970’s of circa 400 engines as a special order for one customer. Some of the guys who built them are still employed in the factory today! I will have pricing for parts and engines soon. I will join the forum as well.
Kind regards,
Danny Hancock'
Well the mystery of Parken and Haussegger names has been answered.
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xlchainsaw
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400 engines??? i wonder if that accounts for the square cylinder??? versus the round cylinder??? i cant wait for the result.
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Just out of curiosity, what do Parken make nowadays? They seem to have some loyal employees if they're still there after 30-40 years 
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| Roly Williams wrote: | | Just out of curiosity, what do Parken make nowadays? They seem to have some loyal employees if they're still there after 30-40 years |
It had never occurred to me before that Parken may of still been in business before this email, but a quick Google Search of 'Parken' in Australia gives you this.
http://www.parken.com.au/
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Hmm - versatile lot aren't they 
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More information.
I can see the last sentence getting a few people excited. 
'The Parken Engineering toy steam engine was originally built by Arpad (Pardy) Haussegger 1945 . Pardy built the steam engines out of his shed until partnering with Ken Pizzey to form PARKEN Engineering.
Parken acquired a factory in Clayton and from the success of the steam engines developed into one of Australia’s precision machine builders. The machines built are Bench and pedestal Drills and Grinders, Foam Cutters, and custom built designs.
Parken engineering is currently run by Michael and Karl Haussegger ( sons of Pardy) whom used to make parts for the steam engines for 1 Ha’penny per piston (0.5c).
The designs and tools to build the model steam engine are still available for remanufacture . The original design has not changed except for the painting of the base which is now powder coated. The package label is also available with a limited number of original boxes from 1945. If any one is interested.
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| tmuir wrote: | More information.
I can see the last sentence getting a few people excited.
'The Parken Engineering toy steam engine was originally built by Arpad (Pardy) Haussegger 1945 . Pardy built the steam engines out of his shed until partnering with Ken Pizzey to form PARKEN Engineering.
Parken acquired a factory in Clayton and from the success of the steam engines developed into one of Australia’s precision machine builders. The machines built are Bench and pedestal Drills and Grinders, Foam Cutters, and custom built designs.
Parken engineering is currently run by Michael and Karl Haussegger ( sons of Pardy) whom used to make parts for the steam engines for 1 Ha’penny per piston (0.5c).
The designs and tools to build the model steam engine are still available for remanufacture . The original design has not changed except for the painting of the base which is now powder coated. The package label is also available with a limited number of original boxes from 1945. If any one is interested.
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I certainly am interested and excited.
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xlchainsaw
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we would be interested in a box.
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| Quote: | | The original design has not changed except for the painting of the base which is now powder coated. The package label is also available with a limited number of original boxes from 1945. If any one is interested. |
I must admit I have a major problem with that, having bought a boxed original (1940's-50's) Parken in the past 6 months, for quite a deal of money, I think that the release of the a limited number of boxes with package labels, is detrimental, unless the boxes & labels also indicate that they were re-released in 2012, on a particular date.
It would be like Mamod finding some post -war boxes, and issueing them in 2012.
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| flywheel61 wrote: | tmuir wrote
| Quote: | | The original design has not changed except for the painting of the base which is now powder coated. The package label is also available with a limited number of original boxes from 1945. If any one is interested. |
I must admit I have a major problem with that, having bought a boxed original (1940's-50's) Parken in the past 6 months, for quite a deal of money, I think that the release of the a limited number of boxes with package labels, is detrimental, unless the boxes & labels also indicate that they were re-released in 2012, on a particular date.
It would be like Mamod finding some post -war boxes, and issueing them in 2012.
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not really chris ...provided that the boxes and labels were made in 1945/6 and are genuine no different than mamod finding a box of old se4 spares stashed in a cupboard and found... it was noted earlier that a "hunt" was on in old buildings /cupboards ...boxes ...a genuine spare part???? there is no mention as to a boxes value?? they might want $200 a box if they were just "giving" them away ...then that might be a issue to a collector that has paid "extra" for a boxed example.
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Glenn, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, an individual finding a box or two in a cupboard is one thing, but the manufacturer, coming back to life and starting production again(in the original form) is entirerly different.
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| flywheel61 wrote: | Glenn, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, an individual finding a box or two in a cupboard is one thing, but the manufacturer, coming back to life and starting production again(in the original form) is entirerly different.
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in that context ...i agree ....they shouldnt put a "newly" made engine in an old box and sell it as an "original" even if technically they are entitled to do so ....but wouldnt it just say that the packaging has remained un changed for sixty odd years??i can see both sides of the coin what if they sold the boxes to collectors BEFORE they made a new engine ??? and collectors put their 1946 engine in a 1946 box?? the box isnt original to the engine and so we could go on and on.... best to wait and see what parkens has in mind.
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| flywheel61 wrote: | Glenn, I guess we'll just have to agree to disagree. To me, an individual finding a box or two in a cupboard is one thing, but the manufacturer, coming back to life and starting production again(in the original form) is entirerly different.
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Chris I'm pretty confident that the new engines will be in boxes that may have the original graphics, but will be distinguishable from boxes made in 1945.
If the manufacture has some boxes that the made in the 1940s that they made available to the collector, I'm ok with that.;
I can understand that a number of original boxes coming onto the market could devalue your box, but what if they found a dozen original engines in original boxes in their factory, would you say they shouldn't be sold because that could devalue the engines that have been in circulation for 60 years?
Either way I'm confident that newly made engines and boxes will be different enough they could not be mistaked for ones made 60 years ago.
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